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every top 50 program for the last 25 years has paid for the vast majority of their top players. the top, top programs pay for a much higher percentage due to the fact that they get a higher percentage of top players -- its been a know practice and somewhat accepted for as long as i can remember, an...

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and one last thing, how do you guys think i know all the inside information i know? is it because you think i talk to Sean Miller everyday? or that Greg Byrne and Jim Livengood used to call me and tell me that Stanley Johnson was going to commit, or Aaron Gordon was coming to Arizona or that Chase ...

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and one last thing, how do you guys think i know all the inside information i know? is it because you think i talk to Sean Miller everyday? or that Greg Byrne and Jim Livengood used to call me and tell me that Stanley Johnson was going to commit, or Aaron Gordon was coming to Arizona or that Chase ...

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every top 50 program for the last 25 years has paid for the vast majority of their top players. the top, top programs pay for a much higher percentage due to the fact that they get a higher percentage of top players -- its been a know practice and somewhat accepted for as long as i can remember, an...

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A couple of things occur to me, I have a feeling there really isn't as much of "another shoe to drop" as we think, it feels like the FBI statement was more of a fishing expedition than an actual announcement of real stuff coming down the pike... I think we've already seen the worst of it as far as ...

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How is Miller gonna sniff out the player who took money and deal with this? I know there are some suspicions but nothing yet known (to me). This likely has to be addressed before the start of the season if he wants a shot at having this season intact. Who says he has to? It’s a rumor based on an FB...

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Forgot to thank you 97Cats for coming by and dropping some good information. I slept like a baby last night, doubt that would have been the case had you not.

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I thought it was strange how eager the FBI was to make it out that the Universities were victims. Are you referring to language of the criminal complaint or something else? If it's just the complaint - generally complaints, indictments, informations contain the elements of a crime, the who, what, w...

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Jesus. How long is the recovery on a broken foot, 4-6 months?

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The other thing to note is that no program not head coach is named in the indictment. Also I believe (been long day) the UA is basically the victim in the indictment. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong. Youre correct, and astutely caught the (in essence) redactions, which in most cases is done to ...

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Olsondogg wrote:Here’s a question. All the other schools lawyered up. Did UA?

I wanna say I read usc hired a former fbi lawyer?!?

Gotta think crimal defense attorneys are among the individual attorneys Universities retain. USC must have learned from their boy Juice that stuff this big requires the best.

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Had a lawyer friend text me from Chicago today. She couldn’t believe fed would go after the coaches for this. Said it had to involve something bigger. It’s not her field of expertise but it smelled off to her. Generally speaking the feds don't waste their time with anything under the "millions" cat...

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Yeah, sounds like Pitino may have used up the last of his favors at louiville. https://twitter.com/JasonRileyWDRB/status/912781617361559552 FBi strted putting eyes on this what, three years ago? When did the Louisville hooker stuff go down? Be nuts if they stumbled upon detailed evidence about that...

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Dog this is going to be like watching all of the mafia families falling down. Good chance shoe companies and NCAA with it. Reminds me of the baseball/steroids shit on steroids, and the federal govt is more interested in people stealing from them (evading paying taxes) than public youth safety concer...

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Slits wrist

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ASUHATER! wrote:After all these years.. Basnight was actually right.

Lmao. Basnight popped in my head less than 30 seconds after I started learning of this.

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Pascoe says Book faces a max of 60 years in prison. Sweet baby jesus, if he has any info on the higher ups he is definitely spilling the beans. Those are the cumulative stat maxes, which rarely occur. He wont do more than 24 months, and I wouldn't be surprised if he got probation. That is without s...

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Pascoe says Book faces a max of 60 years in prison. Sweet baby jesus, if he has any info on the higher ups he is definitely spilling the beans. Those are the cumulative stat maxes, which rarely occur. He wont do more than 24 months, and I wouldn't be surprised if he got probation. That is without s...

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CalStateTempe wrote:lol so we still can't recruit a top point guard. Smh

Quote of the year

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That's what I'm having trouble getting my head around. This is bad very very bad, and i hope it stops at book otherwise a team that brings me such joy will be dead is so many ways. But why is the FBI doing the NCAA's dirty work? What federal crime was broken? Is it becuase book is an employee of a ...

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But why is the FBI doing the NCAA's dirty work? What federal crime was broken? Is it becuase book is an employee of a federally funded university? Yes. Also, kickbacks to steer business are often not reported as taxable income, or on the books as paid by the company. But kickbacks that are between ...

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That's what I'm having trouble getting my head around. This is bad very very bad, and i hope it stops at book otherwise a team that brings me such joy will be dead is so many ways. But why is the FBI doing the NCAA's dirty work? What federal crime was broken? Is it becuase book is an employee of a ...

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I just can't understand the optimism here. Miller had an assistant caught on an FBI wiretap funneling multiple players to agents and discussing cash payments for commitments . That's textbook NCAA show cause stuff - in the past, a lot of schools can get "caught" and get off lightly because the NCAA...

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Too Soon Take: Feel really bad for Book. He make a mistake, yes, broke some laws, but the consequences will be far more dire then the action. Not like he got someone hurt, or he was even malicious against a person. Thought he'd make a quick buck in a return favor, but that the kid would probably be...

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Miller is gone and should be. zero chance :lol: No chance. Maybe a suspension but thats it doubt a suspension im hearing the FBI is saying the employers and the universities are the victims. Not sure that matters. The NCAA will have its own investigation, and if there is room to question how the pr...

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Makes me wonder who tipped the FBI off? Calipari? They had a confidential informant who sang like a bird because he was charged in an unrelated but similar conspiracy. Slime balls associate with slime balls, he lets the FBI and US Attorney's office know he can help them, and Book's dumbass was enga...

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So who will be gone after the dust settles? 1. Book 2. Miller? 3. Quinerly? 4. ??? Unless you see an complaint or indictment filed charging Miller, he isn't going anywhere. Book is obviously gone, Quinerly will be ruled ineligible by the NCAA, as his mother received payment via the coconspirators. ...

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Olsondogg wrote:
I wonder what he knows and what he will say to avoid that.

The million dollar question.. The good news, Book is from the hood where you are taught from a very early age "no snitching."

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This doesn't seem like an Arizona "thing" so far. Eh? Book was arrested. How could it not be? Well, yeah, but more like he was funneling kids to advisors, not like we were bribing kids to commit to the school. Seems like a big difference. Quinnerly's mom got at least $15k, per the complaint.

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Yeah, we are talking about book getting $15-20k up front and $5,000 a month thereafter. $60k a year for just one coach. And you know once Book delivered multiple guys and these agencies take off, that $5k a month goes up. Word gets around and more top level schools become involved. And we all know t...

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Count 10 - "...making and concealing bribe payments to current and prospective student athletes...." in 2016 through September 2017 Arizona basketball is over. Read the language of Count 10. University 2, 3, 4, and 5 (one of them presumably Arizona) are the victims and were put in positions where t...

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Awesome fucking news. Book has always been shady to me. Hindsight is 20/20, but the shit with ACE should have been a clear sign for Miller to part ways with Book. Arizona is going to have to self impose a scholarship reduction and take themselves out of the postseason for at least one year. Which is...

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There is no answer that preserves both. So we choose sides. My view is if we keep going down the player-centered path, it will kill the golden goose. I know that each of these changes diminishes the appeal of college hoops for me. I think the golden goose analogy is very apt, it's the exact same th...

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The participation trophy/coddling/instant gratification trends are going to F up college sports. This would be a huge mistake, for fans and IMO, would be pumping even more "bail when the slightest thing goes wrong" young men into the real world when they are done with ball. I'm sure this would lead ...

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The best part about McKale for the longest time was that it felt like a college atmosphere, not an NBA game. I hate all the pyrotechnics, canned music and pre-produced videos, etc... Give me a raucous student section and an enthusiastic pep band. That is all. The best college basketball atmospheres...

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We don't make final fours when we are preseason #s 2-25, so I'm not too worried about a kiss of death

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Bangkok Wildcat wrote:Karma?

You spelled California wrong.

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Puerco wrote:Wingspan... Now that explains it. I guess my 5'2" wingspan on my 6' frame isn't really conducive to excelling at hoops.

That's the worst I have heard. I have a 5'10" wingspan and I'm 6'3"

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dcZONAfan wrote:My family and friends are all safe

Glad to hear you and your friends are safe.

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You need a strong back court, that's what wins in tournament play. It's the reason why UConn could beat that massive Kentucky team. Guards win in March. Trier half of the equation and he's obviously an elite talent, all rests on PJC. He has to step during the tournament, during the reg season, larg...

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I believe in karma. Grayson Allen is more than due for some. I don't expect him to be on the floor the whole season.

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TJ had offensive limitations? Dude shot 50% from the floor as a senior. Outside of his 32% from 3 his senior year (a better 36 as a junior), TJ was more than fine offensively and had a nice mid-range pull-up game, especially when you consider the weapons around him. I remember Coach Miller demandin...

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You need a strong back court, that's what wins in tournament play. It's the reason why UConn could beat that massive Kentucky team. Guards win in March. Trier half of the equation and he's obviously an elite talent, all rests on PJC. He has to step during the tournament, during the reg season, larg...

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dcZONAfan wrote:Parkers dad just walked in with a U of A chant haha. Guy is always turned on

If you have a pair of Jordans, wear them. He will talk to you forever.

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I know I joked with Gumby (but was serious when I said) Dus was unlikely to acquire Karnowski-like passing skills in an offseason, but he has made some really nice passes and is taking rebounds and confidently dribbling out, making it much easier to initiate a fast break. . He is putting the ball o...

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TJ had offensive limitations? Dude shot 50% from the floor as a senior. Outside of his 32% from 3 his senior year (a better 36 as a junior), TJ was more than fine offensively and had a nice mid-range pull-up game, especially when you consider the weapons around him.

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If his last shot is 6 inches in a different direction he is the man, since it didn't he's the scapegoat even tho he was clearly our best player that game. A half inch. It legit rimmed out. Video here if you want to relive it: http://thebiglead.com/2017/03/24/watch-arizona-launched-a-terrible-final-...

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Space, I get all that, just expect people to realize that comes with the territory for elite scoring wings. Cal, Trier had to be assertive for several reasons. The biggest being no one else was, even the guys who were having success. Alkins couldn't do much w the injury, Dusan looked like he had a g...

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I'd probably pull Gronk off, it seems a bit early to have him on there. Gronkowski is already one of the greatest TEs in NFL history. He owns the Patriots all time touchdown record. First ballot HOF if he retired today. Gronk is the greatest tight end in NFL history, injuries or not. I think the se...

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Crazy how a guy who has been one of the two best players on the last two teams is still somewhat of a whipping boy.

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