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As your edit notes, “being The Man” doesn’t necessarily mean top scorer. I can certainly see a situation where Zu is our top scorer next season and Terry going significantly higher than him in the draft. The man is a more complex question. I would argue that AG and Lauri were not "the man" while he...

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Wasn't he behind Krissa too? 5th in field goals attempted per game. Although it's a bit of a false choice because if he's either the man at Arizona or just in the NBA, I'd bet that's an easy choice to go. Being the man at Arizona leads to high NBA draft pick more often than not. To lend a quantitat...

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I see the fit much easier than with Efe. Positional flexibility to the wing and/or 4 helps a lot. He’s going to want to start and if Terry comes back that ain’t happening. don't like him as much as a 3 - feels like he can play there some minutes there in a big lineup, but he's a more natural 4 He c...

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UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 5:36 pm Wasn't he behind Krissa too?

5th in field goals attempted per game.

Although it's a bit of a false choice because if he's either the man at Arizona or just in the NBA, I'd bet that's an easy choice to go.

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azcat49 wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 3:34 pm So is the thought he is staying in the draft? I thought most here were saying he was coming back?

He's helped his draft stock at the combine. I wouldn't speculate further than that.

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I think one of the hardest parts of a first round guarantee this draft is that there is so much uncertainty in the 20-40 range of what guys will be taken where… If you’re the Grizz with the 22nd pick - can you promise it to Terry when it’s possible that TyTy Washington or Kennedy Chandler could be ...

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I think one of the hardest parts of a first round guarantee this draft is that there is so much uncertainty in the 20-40 range of what guys will be taken where… If you’re the Grizz with the 22nd pick - can you promise it to Terry when it’s possible that TyTy Washington or Kennedy Chandler could be ...

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Latest reports from the combine give the impression that DT is crushing it, not only commanding consideration as a first rounder but even late lottery. Lol there’s not a world where he goes late lotto. Amen. His best case scenario is someone in the 20's figures they can get a high upside player by ...

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Latest reports from the combine give the impression that DT is crushing it, not only commanding consideration as a first rounder but even late lottery. Lol there’s not a world where he goes late lotto. Amen. His best case scenario is someone in the 20's figures they can get a high upside player by ...

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https://twitter.com/AZBandCatSports/status/1528851748143902720 I see the fit much easier than with Efe. Positional flexibility to the wing and/or 4 helps a lot. He’s going to want to start and if Terry comes back that ain’t happening. I've said it a ton, but I wonder how many of our recruits will.

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dmjcat wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 2:56 pm

I see the fit much easier than with Efe. Positional flexibility to the wing and/or 4 helps a lot.

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UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 9:53 am

That's an absurd number of rebounds.

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EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 9:25 am Let it be. Does not matter anymore.

Beatles + Metallica.

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Not sure I agree with the too many bigs situation. If we want to win a title we need depth and versatility at all positions, especially at the lead guard spot. Considering all the bad luck we've had I think putting together a roster like that is just hedging for the inevitable. Eh, you can't play 1...

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Way too many bigs I don't know why people want the wazzu kid at all, fine with the 3 we have and 1 kid (Anderson) in the bullpen Just the way I see it but we are too slow and not athletic enough at the wings and backcourt (assuming we land Ramsey and Terry comes back) yet again When you play two tr...

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Way too many bigs I don't know why people want the wazzu kid at all, fine with the 3 we have and 1 kid (Anderson) in the bullpen Just the way I see it but we are too slow and not athletic enough at the wings and backcourt (assuming we land Ramsey and Terry comes back) yet again When you play two tr...

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Look, the last three times Tommy lost in the tournament it was to a team that played only one dude above 6'8" and the obvious lesson to learn is that we need more big men. Or we need more athletic guards/wings. That's my point :lol: I don't get how Efe is a real offer at this point with Zu/Ballo/HV...

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If you had your choice who would you take? Abogidi or Miller? With Veesaar, I don't see Efe's role. No one mentions it, but Dylan Anderson is also on next year's roster. So at the 4-5, we have 3 guys set for big minutes and a 4th top 100 freshman to plug gaps. I don't see how adding Efe as a 5th bi...

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If you had your choice who would you take? Abogidi or Miller? With Veesaar, I don't see Efe's role. No one mentions it, but Dylan Anderson is also on next year's roster. So at the 4-5, we have 3 guys set for big minutes and a 4th top 100 freshman to plug gaps. I don't see how adding Efe as a 5th bi...

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So do Henri and Tubelis both start? With Ballo off the bench again? TBD I'd say Henri/Tubelis, but I think the real answer is it will be a 3 man rotation at the 4/5 with all 3 getting roughly consistent minutes regardless of who starts. Add Abogidi or Miller and that changes up that rotation a bit....

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Dalen Terry opens up about entering NBA Draft process, what it will take to return to Arizona By Brian J. Pedersen May 19, 2022, 5:00pm PDT Terry told NBATV’s Andy Katz that he’s not participating in 5-on-5 drills during the combine, rather he’d prefer a team that shows interest in him to bring him...

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ChooChooCat wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 7:20 am
IndianaZonaFan wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 7:06 am So do Henri and Tubelis both start? With Ballo off the bench again?
TBD

I'd say Henri/Tubelis, but I think the real answer is it will be a 3 man rotation at the 4/5 with all 3 getting roughly consistent minutes regardless of who starts.

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So... Leonard Miller played like he'd never heard of the game of basketball in his combine scrimmage today. Feel confident that between his poor shooting in the drill and his clueless play in the scrimmage, Miller will NOT be getting a first round commitment this draft. With the increased possibili...

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Maybe Veesaar could play some minutes at SF. It looks like he has a perimeter game and has a great 3pt shot. Abogidi must like what our plan is for him if we made his top 3. Maybe he wants to play a little more on the perimeter. I would not want that, as it isn't fair to Veesaar. He's a plus athlet...

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Koloko >>> Kessler Kessler has upside, but the combine shows what I'd say the eye test does too. Koloko is top 5 among C's in every test of speed and explosiveness, as well as right there with Kessler in size and length. https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine/ Kessler (and even Mark Williams, inte...

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Brooks is one like that WSU kid where I don't understand how he fits if Veesaar is coming here.

And if he's likely staying in the draft, I see a 0% chance he would transfer for anything other than a guaranteed starting spot.

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EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:02 am Lacrosse or Field Hockey?

Ideally one where a group of female student athletes pick a new athletic director who isn't a yes man for Robert Robbins.

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https://www.ktbs.com/sports/national/nba-combine-testing-results-could-help-draft-stocks-of-arizonas-dalen-terry-christian-koloko/article_407f3276-a2e5-5f3f-9ba4-d7284c8cf4ed.html#:~:text=Koloko%20also%20finished%20second%20in,sprint%20and%20lane%20agility%20drill. UA center Christian Koloko, meanw...

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https://twitter.com/jasonscheer/status/1527062392839933952 I'm not going to say this is overall representative of where Koloko is, but it's at least something I think shows NBA scouts that his developmental curve isn't near maxed. He's made a lot of strides and results like that just show that he c...

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https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1525482890489896963 So I watched my first video of his. Intriguing prospect in many ways. He seems like a true wing who could easily also be a dynamite stretch 4 if he can develop his strength a bit. He's long and seems to have a frame that can develop, he jus...

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It's actually lower than Sam Vecenie of the Athletic's personal big board - he has Terry at 28th (!!). He said it wasn't based on league feedback but rather that he felt DT was a guy who teams may view as a 2023 lottery pick, so a team that felt that way could grab him with a low first / high secon...

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YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:30 am The Ringer has Ben going 9th to the Spurs (would be a home run for him).

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

Yep. You can see his role on a team in full developmental mode. Murray, Johnson, Walker and Benn would be an intriguing core of young perimeter players.

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I've written a bunch and deleted a bunch so that I don't absolutely mince this horse; but I can't leave it without saying this: While the G-League has recently become fertile ground for players to develop into NBA minutes, Dalen's best opportunity for growth is at Arizona. The role he'll have, the ...

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YoDeFoe wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:14 am

That 7'5+ wingspan will get you drafted.

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Projects as a good spot-up shooter. He made progress from his first to second year in college. This past season, he made 36.8 percent of spot-up 3s. Though he isn’t a knockdown guy, he’s good enough to warrant respect. MINUSES Unproven shooter, especially off the dribble, due to a small sample size...

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That's also the highest I've seen DT projected. It's actually lower than Sam Vecenie of the Athletic's personal big board - he has Terry at 28th (!!). He said it wasn't based on league feedback but rather that he felt DT was a guy who teams may view as a 2023 lottery pick, so a team that felt that ...

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That's also the highest I've seen DT projected. It's actually lower than Sam Vecenie of the Athletic's personal big board - he has Terry at 28th (!!). He said it wasn't based on league feedback but rather that he felt DT was a guy who teams may view as a 2023 lottery pick, so a team that felt that ...

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Yeah someone will not be happy with their PT if we land Efe. I’d certainly argue that Efe is a better fit for us than Ballo, but not sure Tommy would do that to Ballo. A combo forward makes much more sense than adding another pure 4/5 to the roster. Maybe, but I don't think you can write out Ballo ...

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https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1526603106619904001 I've put zero faith and stock in this recruitment but I know Lloyd doesn't stay involved in a player just for fun... assuming we return Dalen and land Henri... where does this dude get his minutes? That's why I can't see all 3. 80 minutes ...

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Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 10:35 am Can you imagine this guy in our frontcourt, alongside AT and OB:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fda-HgX7UkM

I can't imagine alongside those two and Veesar.

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Dave wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 9:49 am Are we assuming Pelle is taking all of Benn's minutes?

I'd call him the presumptive starter. How many minutes he clocks as such probably depends on how he plays as well as other options.

The natural progression would seem to be that Pelle becomes Benn and Bal becomes Pelle.

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I struggle with why Ramey would come here unless Dalen leaves. As I've said before, and saying he's a Kier replacement implies, chances are low we have a starting perimeter role to offer. So Ramey is a guy who has started 106 of 128 games as a high profile program. I assume he is transferring becau...

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Because he's coming back and just using the draft process for feedback, and to Jefe's point has more to lose than gain in 5x5s. Not something I know for sure but sure is what I expect. Yeah, if he was serious about trying to up his stock, no way he skips 5x5's. That has much more of what scouts wan...

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Ramey would be an excellent replacement for Kier. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4334018/courtney-ramey https://www.si.com/college/texas/news/longhorns-courtney-ramey-announces-ncaa-transfer-portal-nba-draft#gid=ci029d8f4f30002674&pid=ramey-wvu https://twitter.com/ironmike...

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Katz thinks he's gone. Again, if DT is comfortable with being a mid-second rounder, then yeah, can't see him coming back. Think it's likely he'd be drafted mid-to-late 2nd round. Katz says he should go, which is different than Katz thinking he's gone. It's just a take though - there's no insight be...

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Will he improve his percentage with double the shots? He was not good till the second half of the year and if the attention he gets is from a #3-4 scorer to a #1 option the defense will be more attentive. Hard choice but if someone guarantees and pick in the 30's he should go. Part of it is him han...

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"Lacking a 3 point shot" is a lazy description of a guy who shot 36% from 3 and over 40% in the second half of the season. That's a 2021 take. Lacking shot creation (to Spiff's prior point). Hasn't shown he can be a go-to scorer (to TheCat's point). Needs to prove it at a higher volume (to my prior...

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This mock draft has Terry going at 39. It has Koloko going at 31. https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2022-2nd-round/ The sentence at the end of their eval "lacking a 3 point shot" is everything for Dalen right now. That shot dictates how high he goes, and is the reason why if he returned as a better shoote...

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Terry is an absurdly good playmaker for his position - he was 3rd in the Pac-12 in total assists. There's no reason to forget his passing ability when talking about what an NBA team sees from him at the next level. I agree with you on so many things, but this hits on one thing where I caveat hard. ...

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