Bear Down Wildcats

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Some of these suggestions have a very Russ Pennell vibe to them...as long as we finish 9-9 in the Pac we'll be fine. Meanwhile Cronin and Tinkle and Altman and hell even Hurley... Find me a coach who can recruit under the same conditions Miller did... I'll wait. Miller did an admirable job recruiti...

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This is wrong in so many ways. AZ hoops will recover, however long it takes. It's wrong because Sean Miller deserved better than this. I'll continue to say it: we've had the worst roster continuity in the nation over the last three seasons. Nothing has been more detrimental to our success on the co...

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There goes Az basketball for the next 5-6 years at least...there is NO coach available that can recover this big a mistake in any foreseeable future. Just gutted the entire team, players would be idiots to stay in this mess... Robbins needs to be fired asap and Heeke with him. gutless dickless idio...

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There goes Az basketball for the next 5-6 years at least...there is NO coach available that can recover this big a mistake in any foreseeable future. Just gutted the entire team, players would be idiots to stay in this mess... Robbins needs to be fired asap and Heeke with him. gutless dickless idio...

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Lloyd is the coach in waiting at Gonzaga. They were just in the Natty and he’s turned down offers before. Just sayin. Who knows if the Lloyd rumors are even true, or if he is the right candidate for AZ, but Few probably has another 10 years on the bench, so it seems doubtful Lloyd waits around that...

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Two interesting things about Self's contract. The first is that he can not be fired for cause for any actions that occurred before the new contract. In other words he can't be fired for the allegations against him right now. Wonder why he insisted on that. LOL. The second is how Kansas cover itself...

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If I'm a Carolina fan, I'd be very, very unhappy and disappointed if Stackhouse got the nod. I would think they could do a lot better in Chapel Hill. Vandy has done nothing under Stackhouse. It would be shocking if UNC went that route. One suspects they already learned the hard way with the Matt Do...

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There’s a part of me that wants Miller to take another job, leaving Robbins up shit’s Heeke. Maybe it would lead to them both getting canned. I love Miller and want him to remain our coach, but I also don’t want him to have to endure this treatment any longer. It’s awful. Miller is pretty toxic rig...

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Kansas is all-in with Self. Even with accusations of 4 level 5 violations, they aren’t budging. The optics make sense; put full support behind the embattled coach to assert he is innocent until proven guilty, and if he gets nailed, you take a year of sanctions and move forward, or you fire him later...

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Indiana has largely been irrelevant for the past 18 years, with one big year under Crean. They were a top 5-10 program for decades, but it is difficult to label Indiana basketball relevant in the 2020’s. A couple of bad hires are hard to recover from. That is the fear many have with moving on from M...

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I don’t think we’ll know how bad the AZ brand has actually been damaged until the day comes when our coaching job opens up. Arizona is damaged, but how much it is damaged is up for debate. It is still a major basketball program, arguably one of the best 15 names in college basketball. The opportuni...

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I'm sure Miller is intrigued given how he seems to be being jerked around here. I doubt anyone will hire a coach pending NCAA proceedings. Until the NCAA issues are resolved, no one will touch Miller. It has been suggested that right before news of the FBI investigation broke, Miller and Arizona ma...

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Lots of good jobs opening up. Makes you wonder if Sean is at all intrigued. Texas is a really good job, if Shaka really leaves. So is Oklahoma. I'm sure Miller is intrigued given how he seems to be being jerked around here. I doubt anyone will hire a coach pending NCAA proceedings. Until the NCAA i...

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Lots of good jobs opening up. Makes you wonder if Sean is at all intrigued. Texas is a really good job, if Shaka really leaves. So is Oklahoma. I'm sure Miller is intrigued given how he seems to be being jerked around here. I doubt anyone will hire a coach pending NCAA proceedings. Until the NCAA i...

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Beachcat97 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:50 am Are we seeing the twilight of Izzo's MSU days?

Perhaps heading into Boeheim territory?

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I don't understand the fixation on alumni. Juwan Howard and Patrick Ewing are on people's minds. They're not looking at the long list of coaches who didn't do well when hired by their alma mater. Ewing, heck, he's 62-58 at Georgetown and was on the hot seat before they made a BE tourney run. I'm a ...

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I’m not for firing Miller. Just throwing out a name who’s had success at ISU. Jeez. TBH, Hoiberg is the kind of guy I'm worried would be a legit candidate if we fired Miller. Agreed. To be clear, my aforementioned post was not in support of Fred, I was simply pointing out that average coaches can s...

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I don't know what to tell you guys. Clearly you seem interested in grinding out some more seasons of RPI 35 basketball. You might get your wish. You'd think three would be enough, but apparently not. So we'll grind out some more shit basketball; and don't delude yourself, that's what it is. Three y...

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I’m not for firing Miller. Just throwing out a name who’s had success at ISU. Jeez. But not the kind of Success Miller had for several years prior to the FBI derailment. That said, Arizona is a great job that a lot of quality coaches could conceivably excel at, so one suspects even Fred could have ...

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Arizona isn't going to be the only one hit with sanctions, or additional sanctions. Kansas is not going to get off free like North Carolina did with the academic scandal -- the irony is that the NCAA may have gone lighter on Kansas than the IARP process because the NCAA wants to protect certain bran...

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When was the last time a team got more than 2 postseasons taken away? Ole Miss (football) back in 2017? Penn State got a huge fine & 4 year ban for their scandal, although the ban was later commuted to 2 years. The more relevant question is what was the last school that got hit with 5 level 1 viola...

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Does everyone still think Arizona will one day be elite again?

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UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:14 pm We'll see what happens.

Saves Arizona from another loss. Remember the days when Oregon was almost a guaranteed win?

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Is the lack of postgame chatter just due to waning interest in this season’s outcomes, or...? Maybe. I don't see how anyone can be positive about the direction of this once great program. It was legitimately a top ten powerhouse basketball program for decades, and now, it is just another mediocre p...

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This year's team makes me really excited for next year. If feels like we're watching something be built that could go on to have a great run next year. Gonna be sad when the season ends because this is just a fun group to watch. The "one-and-dones" have cooled a bit on Arizona lately because of the...

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I share that sentiment. I've long thought we should do the following things and hopefully they understand. 1. Acknowledge we deserve some punishment for Book's federal conviction. This is not an area I feel we can or should push back on. He did that shit. 2. Point out the remaining allegations lack...

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Every major media outlet continues to work on the premise that Arizona and Miller are presumed guilty and must be punished. It's upside down, where in the real world you are presumed innocent and the state (in this case the NCAA) must prove their case. What evidence of wrongdoing by Miller does the...

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The good news is that I’ve now seen a couple of columnists who have decided to use our latest move as an example of how self-sanctioning is actually a farce and they’ve gone on to suggest that our punishment should be WORSE for pulling such a move. So that’s wonderful... Welcome to NCAA discipline....

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And look, this is ultimately my opinion, but the real problem is the NCAA. People clearly want to give top prospects money. But the NCAA has decided it's wrong that young, African-American men receive market value for their talents. That money could go to the NCAA's billion plus dollar tv deal and ...

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So we can ban ourselves from the postseason while in the middle of playing that same season? Wouldn't that need to be done prior to Game 1 for it to look good to the NCAA? This is a half-assed attempt to self-impose the minimum punishment. Also an outside chance we just screwed over next years team...

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I still haven’t heard what noa alleges miller did. Quinerly, Alkins and Ayton were all cleared to play. Lack of institutional control. Book broke the law, Phelps lightly violated amateurism with his help of Pinder. We still haven't actually gotten eyes on the document so we don't know the evidence ...

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azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:23 pm

Not sure how this is a win for Arizona State. This is on some level a lost season for college basketball, so who cares if AZ pulls out of post-season play? How does it help Arizona State? It doesn't raise that program's stature.

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NCAA took first half of season from him. Now the tournament is off the table. Who knows if there will be more sanctions next season. A two-year post-season ban (not that is what you suggested)? That would be excessive. This isn't a USC and Miami football scenario where a NCAA death penalty is on th...

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In other news, are we really the 8th best team in the Pac? https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2020/12/29/pac-12-basketball-power-ratings-ucla-on-top-oregon-lurking-as-conference-play-ramps-up/ Has Wilner watched basketball this year or just focused on Larry Scott and football? ASU #3? Despite getting the...

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It is a smart play. This is a strange, somewhat lost season for college basketball. Arizona basketball is presently going through a transition. This is not a championship level squad. Take a hit now when it matters less, rather than later on when it will potentially hurt more. It might also help wit...

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I agree that Oregon is not as good of a job as Arizona and UCLA. Oregon has benefiitted from Arizona's present NCAA issues, plus a couple of recruiting mistakes (i.e. Tyler Dorsey), but it doesn't have the legacy and prestige. When Arizona is at full speed and UCLA has the right hire, Oregon is not...

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Frankly, Gonzaga has also benefitted from UCLA and Arizona's issues the past several years. Gonzaga rarely brought in major recruits (until recently) and arguably benefitted from playing in a substandard league, padding their win column for years. The program's consistency and success has moved Gonz...

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I agree that Oregon is not as good of a job as Arizona and UCLA. Oregon has benefiitted from Arizona's present NCAA issues, plus a couple of recruiting mistakes (i.e. Tyler Dorsey), but it doesn't have the legacy and prestige. When Arizona is at full speed and UCLA has the right hire, Oregon is not ...

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During the Lute era, Arizona overtook UCLA as the preeminent program out west. Yes, UCLA won the title in '95, but AZ won it two years later in '97. During the second half of the 80's, throughout 90's, and during the first half of the 2000's, Arizona was far more consistent, with more final fours, m...

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https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/1330643204220350467 They're cutting their losses and getting a jump on any other punishment. It's a smart move, imo. Auburn is not expected to do much this year. I do feel bad for the players, though. It won't stop the NCAA from still nailing the program. I...

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There's a major Xavier-ish type vibe here with this recruiting class. Is that good or bad? Lower rated class than we want or great because we should see some extended development from these guys? Good by me. Sean needs more Xavier and less Kentucky to be successful imo. Maybe, maybe not. I would ta...

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>In a third surveillance recording, Dawkins talks about Ayton and says Miller told him, "I'm taking care of everything myself. I want to bring you in. I'll turn everything over to you.” Dawkins Says Miller Said On the HBO documentary, “The Scheme,” When asked about the above quote from Miller, Dawk...

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ChooChooCat wrote:Holmes to Dayton is official.

There was a time, essentially for 3 decades, when AZ never would have lost a recruiting battle to Dayton. Times have changed.

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It is almost certain the contents of the NOA will leak. Everything leaks in this day and age. If top secret intelligence agencies and political cabinets can't keep things from leaking, certainly this information is bound to surface.

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ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Altman and Few have a nice little rivalry going.
Just to be clear Oregon landed Arizona’s top post priority and Gonzaga landed its second. On to #3!

Sort of reminder where things are presently at with the program; that would not have happened 8 years ago.

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I agree that this year's team may surprise people. We're sneaky deep. Think Akinjo is gonna be fun to watch. On paper, it is an intriguing roster, if not an under-the-radar one. It should be interesting, especially if Miller takes advantage of the depth -- he seems reluctant to take advantage of de...

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It makes me happy and proud to see the national media treating Lute as the icon he is. He wasn’t just an important person to UA and Tucson. He was one of the most important people in sports. Full stop. I appreciate them giving the man his due. RIP Coach. Agreed. Great to see the national respect an...

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At some point people need to hold The Daily Star accountable for keeping him on staff. The dude went on a Phoenix Radio station and lied about a source. That should have been it for him. Well, all the people at ESPN that defamed Arizona, Miller and Ayton are still employed as well. Journalism is de...

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Of course it's slumpish, guys. I even wonder if some of our recent international recruiting success has to do with these guys being less familiar with the ESPN smears and residual anti-AZ vibe stemming from the FBI thing. Not sure how many of these Euros know who Book Richardson is. Miller's now be...

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I am beginning to wonder if this crusade against Miller and Wade is where he is trying to deflect The blame from the blue blood coaches. Now you might go Duh 49 but I was thinking all along he just wanted his employer to be right In the real world, the biggest storyline for a major basketball figur...

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