Bear Down Wildcats

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3 points, 2 assists, and 4 turnovers from a point guard in a scrimmage stinks. That sort of performance from a senior starter does not bode well for a team becoming a juggernaut down the road. no it doesn't Arizona will have zero problem winning 30 games again this year regardless, but "Juggernaut ...

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YoDeFoe wrote:I don't get it...?

AGAIN!

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/josh-childress-i-know-guys-who-took-a-pay-cut-going-from-the-ncaa-to-nba/ar-AAtjLCy?li=BBgET5V&ocid=spartandhp Josh Childress: 'I Know Guys Who Took a Pay Cut' Going From the NCAA to NBA Funny. Childress got a Stanford degree with a UCSF academic profile. Made...

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Step 1: Form a committee. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/mark-emmert-picks-condoleezza-rice-to-lead-new-committee-to-fix-ncaa-basketball/" target="_blank 2. The NCAA's relationship with the NBA, and the challenging effect the NBA's so-called "one and done" rule has had on college...

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It just needs to be brought out in the open. Many of these parents and kids NEED money. Make it open, regulate it, and then that money has less chance of going to illicit things. The NCAA knows it has to change. There is no if ands or buts about it anymore. It's been out in the open for 50 years. U...

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I see what you're referring to, Hank. I was talking about Arizona basketball vis-a-vis college basketball. We know Arizona is one of six schools to have an assistant coach indicted (now). Arizona--the school or its head coach-- has not been charged with anything. You know all this. I'm not grasping...

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The UofA would sue a shoe company because of information divulged by the FBI? What? If we are to believe that elite recruits have a going rate, then we must acknowledge that the shoe companies, universities, along with others, are partners in these transactions. Suing Nike suggests this was a one-o...

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The UofA would sue a shoe company because of information divulged by the FBI? What? If we are to believe that elite recruits have a going rate, then we must acknowledge that the shoe companies, universities, along with others, are partners in these transactions. Suing Nike suggests this was a one-o...

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I think you're conflating the difference between proving the negative and the actual exculpatory evidence in this case. The truly exculpatory thing is not Miller being aware of Book's potential actions and discouraging him. It's a lack of knowledge. By its nature, that will not leave a trail of pro...

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( There are, of course, other allegations Arizona could face as a result of the complaint .) Like fucking what? You would do better by addressing this question to the person that originally wrote it. I was responding on the likelihood of NCAA moving forward just on what we have now.

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I think you're conflating the difference between proving the negative and the actual exculpatory evidence in this case. The truly exculpatory thing is not Miller being aware of Book's potential actions and discouraging him. It's a lack of knowledge. By its nature, that will not leave a trail of pro...

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University of Arizona's statements suggest school will defend Sean Miller from potential NCAA investigation Bruce Pascoe, tucson.com Published 8:34 p.m. MT Oct. 9, 2017 Months, or even years, might pass before the FBI's investigation into college basketball translates into potential NCAA violations...

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Geez, left out Mark Arneson, of Palo Verde High and the UofA! Bad fans! Mike Dawson joined the Cardinals in 1976. Can remember when he had a sports bar in Tucson. I think Mark Arneson was a Beta. Not sure. Never was a Greek myself as I had come from Boston (via St. Louis) right after Kent State hap...

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Wow, Russ sure talks a lot about UofA basketball over at the Arizona Sports Fans Network. Here is an interesting post he wrote yesterday. http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/miller-once-again-does-it-again.184180/page-69#post-3574518" target="_blank Yesterday at 7:40 PM #1030 Russ Smith ...

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Wow, Russ sure talks a lot about UofA basketball over at the Arizona Sports Fans Network. Here is an interesting post he wrote yesterday. http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/miller-once-again-does-it-again.184180/page-69#post-3574518" target="_blank Yesterday at 7:40 PM #1030 Russ Smith ...

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https://twitter.com/JoshGershon/status/916739027973353472 If we take the Instant Gratification route and play in the tourney next year, the NCAA will surely get around to hammering us for 2019 (and possibly beyond). Miller would be stuck recruiting asu level recruits for 2-3 years. By the time we w...

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Either the FBI investigation will show that only Arizona and a few other programs breached the amateurism requirement, or that the problem is widespread. If the former, then Arizona basketball is a cheating program in an honest world of amateur college basketball and deserves to be doomed. At least...

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Either the FBI investigation will show that only Arizona and a few other programs breached the amateurism requirement, or that the problem is widespread. If the former, then Arizona basketball is a cheating program in an honest world of amateur college basketball and deserves to be doomed. At least...

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Maybe Pasternak told Miller that they were approached in Vegas. So miller knows that Book might be trying to steer players to these financial guys. But miller didn't know that the FBI was watching. Just a theory This is what I thought originally This would suck for institutional control purposes. h...

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So how many boards are you spreading this amazing insight Russ? Here, arizonasportsfans.com, BRO? Where else? This Gospel of Russ crusade is getting tiresome. It's been tossed out a couple times, but do we have a reason to not ban obvious trolls? There's a difference between being welcoming and let...

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https://twitter.com/AZATHLETICS/status/915344462351446016 So he didn't know for nearly a year when the FBI tipped him off? Good point. "Even though the FBI had tipped SM off earlier" (In fairness to SM, that was a poster here who said this, not Sean), SM didn't know anything till a week ago. Neverm...

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Anyone think we self sanction with a post season ban? Very, very possible. In fact, self sanctioning and taking the hit now may very well be the smart move. The best (realistic) outcome for the UA is to take the punishment immediately and get it out of the way. The uncertainty will only drive recru...

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CatHoops wrote:Anyone think we self sanction with a post season ban?

You will be met with disbelief for making such an inquiry.

As those thoughts are not even allowed in some places, keeping them to yourself will serve you better.

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I see no difference between "realism" and "muted outcomes," which, IMO, makes the probability 2 to1 in favor of realism.

Optimism is always my preference; I just never expect it and, hence, pack my bags accordingly.

I assume any adminsistrative officer might manage/oversee with caution in mind.

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Feel free to talk me off the ledge, but... Anybody else getting an uneasy feeling about this whole thing? The notion that this is rampant (it is) and more big programs will be implicated seems to be waning. It is starting to feel like L'Ville and UA are the big names, and the Feds are more interest...

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No, you pretty well have it although I'll confess I've been all over the place with my posts this past week . As have many of us, I'm sure. I'm not advocating the disbanding of college basketball. Not at all. I love the game. As a kid, I'd scribble down the brackets as they were announced by Brent ...

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Hey Russ . . . if I wanted to hear the self-involved ramblings of an annoying know-it-all asshole, I'd invite my father-in-law over for dinner. Kick rocks fucko. It's possible you missed Russ' thesis: If you combined Shipwreckedcrew (UCLA law) with Chaseinmanhattan (USC law) who disagree quite a bi...

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Hardest part right now is just the deafening silence from Miller and the team. And I get it: they *can't* say anything. This just has to run its course; then we'll see what's what. Overall, feeling a little better as this day comes to an end. I'm not seeing an obvious reason that Miller needs to lo...

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Book is already a ward of the government. He has to show up, do what he's told, essentially going forward for life, regardless of his sentence. I mean even if he gets a month in jail he will be on probation forever and dependent on others (his wife?) for money. Dude, where are u getting this from? ...

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Book is already a ward of the government. He has to show up, do what he's told, essentially going forward for life, regardless of his sentence. I mean even if he gets a month in jail he will be on probation forever and dependent on others (his wife?) for money. Dude, where are u getting this from? ...

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If anyone has ever wondered -- and I'm sure many have -- why UCLA receives my most fervent scorn, it's because Russ Smith is strongly representative of their fan base. They're practically jubilant this week. Eager to bury our guy and then loot the stores of recruits left behind. It's sickening. And...

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Hopefully, if the UA is going to fire Miller, it will be based on their internal investigation, not external pressure. It would be stupid to fire him right now! Yes, firing Miller should or should not happen based on the above; that issue is independent of self-sanctioning. Mind you, the team alrea...

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Hopefully, if the UA is going to fire Miller, it will be based on their internal investigation, not external pressure. It would be stupid to fire him right now! Yes, firing Miller should or should not happen based on the above; that issue is independent of self-sanctioning. Mind you, the team alrea...

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Like Hansen tweeted yesterday, where is the statement of support for Miller from the UA prez and AD? Not a good sign. sorry, but this is bullshit. What is Miller directly accused of? What has he done wrong? What is he or any others supposed to say about the FBI investigation? Show of support for wh...

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My fear is Romar pulled in a lot of top kids in his day. I don't assume he is clean and it's dangerous to assume he is the answer. I don't mean this as a slight to Romar, because what happens in recruiting is coming to light, but how did he get Markelle Fultz from DC and why did he offer Porter Jr'...

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My fear is Romar pulled in a lot of top kids in his day. I don't assume he is clean and it's dangerous to assume he is the answer. I don't mean this as a slight to Romar, because what happens in recruiting is coming to light, but how did he get Markelle Fultz from DC and why did he offer Porter Jr'...

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CalStateTempe wrote:Why do I get the sense there are some "fans" who are waiting so bad to say "I told you so" rather than just letting the situation play out?

Such goes most message board threads I guess.

You just made three declarative statements (above) and then you tell everyone to "wait."

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Wow that was a mic drop if I've ever seen one. Choo, there are a lot of people that bow at the alter and it appears (most often) they don't even know why. Yet, when the mic rudely gets dropped on their foot they still clamor for more. I'm led to believe Billy Sunday said once: “The backslider likes...

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First, who the F sent Russ Smith a link here? perma-ban ASAP. Second, here is the exact quote, since you like to post with less than 100% accuracy when citing quotes from the article: Sood told an FBI witness on March 14 that "the (Arizona) coaches are interested in definitely working with us." "As...

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Any thoughts on what charges they'll be brought up on? You see what Book was charged with? What circumstances are you envisioning here? You are literally the only person I've seen accusing players, and family & friends of those players, of federal crimes that would precipitate them telling the FBI ...

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Pasternak strikes me as a guy not likely to get involved for the same reasons you or I wouldn't, Russ. It could be the last thing Pasternak did before leaving Arizona for UCSB is tell Sean Miller to watch out...Book may already have gone off the deep end. As for what was said, the best way to get a...

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Any thoughts on what charges they'll be brought up on? You see what Book was charged with? What circumstances are you envisioning here? You are literally the only person I've seen accusing players, and family & friends of those players, of federal crimes that would precipitate them telling the FBI ...

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Someone else said it clearly states they didn't get paid, what it says is Sood told them both coaches were "interested in definitely working with us but want to wait until after the tournament before engaging with Sood and CW1. So yeah they absolutely have Sood on tape saying both Book and Pasterna...

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Beachcat97 wrote:Where did this Russ Smith come from? Why is it that Bruin fans are multiplying like cockroaches on here this week? Where were they when we spanked Lonzo in his final Pac game in March?

Priceless.

C'mon Beachcat, you can do better than that. Let's hear the answers.

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Everyone has a point where they can get greedy. Hell if my wife and I made that kind of scratch combined in Tucson we would have more money than we know what to do with (that's the plan when she becomes an NP!). But I look at people's finances all day long and see people who are lawyers, doctors, v...

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https://twitter.com/jaybilas/status/913498342751178752 No one thinks SM knew/was involved/nodded an approval for what Book did. Not the FBI. Not a UCLA person, not any Arizona fan, no one. Pasternak's cell phone was found calling into (or out from) the same people Book was talking with for those th...

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Fairly quiet day Full audio from Books hearing Tuesday. His lawyer is 90 years old... <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yKDB5atDUiI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Not worth listening to...but I did anyway. Astonishing, sobering, "living month-to-month."...

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Chicat: Firing Miller and "cleaning house" just gives license to the NCAA to bend over the new administration and a bunch of kids who had nothing to do with this. Doesn't make sense to me. The NCAA has repeatedly shown that punishing programs is more in their interest than punishing individual coac...

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Chicat: Firing Miller and "cleaning house" just gives license to the NCAA to bend over the new administration and a bunch of kids who had nothing to do with this. Doesn't make sense to me. The NCAA has repeatedly shown that punishing programs is more in their interest than punishing individual coac...

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Chicat: Firing Miller and "cleaning house" just gives license to the NCAA to bend over the new administration and a bunch of kids who had nothing to do with this. Doesn't make sense to me. The NCAA has repeatedly shown that punishing programs is more in their interest than punishing individual coach...

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