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Well that does it. DBX is the nicest airport I've ever been in. Fast efficient clean looks like ceasers palace in Vegas.

I'm going to like it here it think.

CalStateTempe wrote:Well that does it. DBX is the nicest airport I've ever been in. Fast efficient clean looks like ceasers palace in Vegas.

I'm going to like it here it think.

Place reminds me of a shopping mall at Christmas, but it's going 24/7.

Enjoy that nap!

Best airports for a layover.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... 923a3c0840" target="_blank

Ohare and sfo? I want what he's smoking. Spot on with munich and the eastern rim gateways though.

Discuss

UAEebs86 wrote:

Laguardia is such a garbage can.

Sfo looks pretty but it's incredibly overpriced with mediocre food, no real great places to sleep, you have to exit and re enter security which is always a nightmare (think Miami security). When the Marine Layer shuts down a runaway which is like 80% in the summer, the terminals are a zoo.

With the support pig it truly is one.

Ohare, well let's just say I try to limit my time in transit there and will avoid it in favor of Dallas if connecting to the east coast.

Laguardia is definitely one of the worst airports I have ever been in. What a dump

Was delayed 4:30 hours flying out of SD and into SFO last Thursday night. Was delayed 5 hours flying out of SFO and into SD Monday afternoon. 9:30 hours of delays for 2 hours of a round-trip flight.

Go shit on yourself SFO.

TucsonClip wrote:Was delayed 4:30 hours flying out of SD and into SFO last Thursday night. Was delayed 5 hours flying out of SFO and into SD Monday afternoon. 9:30 hours of delays for 2 hours of a round-trip flight.

Go shit on yourself SFO.

Lol, yup, par for the course.

Flew from Idaho Falls (IDA) and it's the smallest commercial service Airport I've used. Only two gates and two year round connections - Salt Lake City and Denver.

One of my best friends shot me some photos of Inchon; wow. Makes US airports look like dumps.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-best-o ... 1542204004" target="_blank

I think is this a fair list. And LaGuardia appropriately at the bottom with Newark.

DIA’s distance from downtown does suck however. And SFO should be a bit higher but fog delays probably killed them.

Phoenix is by far the best airport and it isnt even close

I hate the Phoenix airport. If you have to walk between the different terminals, it is a long fucking walk. Also, picking people up there sucks, if you miss your turn, it takes a minimum of 15 minutes to get back where you need to be

84Cat wrote:I hate the Phoenix airport. If you have to walk between the different terminals, it is a long fucking walk. Also, picking people up there sucks, if you miss your turn, it takes a minimum of 15 minutes to get back where you need to be

You are doing it completely wrong. With the bus service and now sky train you can go from terminal to terminal in about two minutes max. Also there are several turn locations so if you miss your turn you can get back to where you were in 3 minutes max

Thanks, I'll check it out

PHXCATS wrote:Phoenix is by far the best airport and it isnt even close

I like airports with more than one international flight to Europe, not to mention nonstop flights to Asia and South America.

Phx is a good domestic airport.

PHXCATS wrote:Phoenix is by far the best airport and it isnt even close

Don’t get out much?

CalStateTempe wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Phoenix is by far the best airport and it isnt even close

Flights are always on time. Great location in the center of the city. Security lines are never bad although pre check is worth every penny. Can move terminal to terminal easy with sky train. Spacious and plenty of seating. By far the best food options. Hub for two airlines. Yeah it isn't close.

Worst airport I have been to in a long time is Kansas City

Siempre Verde wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Phoenix is by far the best airport and it isnt even close

Don’t get out much?

A ton actually.

CalStateTempe wrote:I like airports with more than one international flight to Europe, not to mention nonstop flights to Asia and South America.

Phx is a good domestic airport.

South Korea is the best I have been to overall

PHXCATS wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Phoenix is by far the best airport and it isnt even close

Flights are always on time. Great location in the center of the city. Security lines are never bad although pre check is worth every penny. Can move terminal to terminal easy with sky train. Spacious and plenty of seating. By far the best food options. Hub for two airlines. Yeah it isn't close.

Worst airport I have been to in a long time is Kansas City

Location is great for sure
Good domestic airport, but for a metro area it’s size it sucks for any Long haul international flights. You have to connect in lax sfo Dallas chicago or Atlanta. Canada Mexico/Central America arnt long haul.
Terminal four security is terrible during mornings and evenings
Food options are ok, but not great and certainly not in the same league as sfo, Atlanta, new DFW post remodel, Portland.

Again it’s a good domestic airport, but not the best and barely considered international

CalStateTempe wrote:I like airports with more than one international flight to Europe, not to mention nonstop flights to Asia and South America.

Phx is a good domestic airport.

Phoenix has 22 international flights, 2 in Europe. It's not Phoenix's fault that other airports are international hubs. For domestic flights it about as good of an airport as there is. Minimal delays hear round.

PHXCATS wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:I like airports with more than one international flight to Europe, not to mention nonstop flights to Asia and South America.

Phx is a good domestic airport.

South Korea is the best I have been to overall

That’s the truth, incheon is bad ass!

ASUHATER! wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:I like airports with more than one international flight to Europe, not to mention nonstop flights to Asia and South America.

Phx is a good domestic airport.

Phoenix has 22 international flights, 2 in Europe. It's not Phoenix's fault that other airports are international hubs. For domestic flights it about as good of an airport as there is. Minimal delays hear round.

Like I said Phoenix is a good domestic airport.

CalStateTempe wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Phoenix is by far the best airport and it isnt even close

Wasn't there a thread this week that said "get a fucking passport"?

ASUHATER! wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:I like airports with more than one international flight to Europe, not to mention nonstop flights to Asia and South America.

Phx is a good domestic airport.

Phoenix has 22 international flights, 2 in Europe. It's not Phoenix's fault that other airports are international hubs. For domestic flights it about as good of an airport as there is. Minimal delays hear round.

What is the second euro one? Did the Lufthansa return?

Yea I think it's London and Frankfurt. Germans love Arizona.

CalStateTempe wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:I like airports with more than one international flight to Europe, not to mention nonstop flights to Asia and South America.

Phx is a good domestic airport.

Phoenix has 22 international flights, 2 in Europe. It's not Phoenix's fault that other airports are international hubs. For domestic flights it about as good of an airport as there is. Minimal delays hear round.

What is the second euro one? Did the Lufthansa return?

Lufthansa flight has been there for ages. Lots of Germans with socks and sandals going to the Grand Canyon.

Lol...yes they do.

I remember when LTU was flying the tri engine widebody back to Düsseldorf

It simply cannot be overstated how miserable an experience the United terminal at O'Hare is.

Hell on earth.

legallykenny wrote:It simply cannot be overstated how miserable an experience the United terminal at O'Hare is.

I'll be there tomorrow on Thanksgiving day! The start of three joyous weeks in Champaign, Illinois.

Longhorned wrote:

legallykenny wrote:It simply cannot be overstated how miserable an experience the United terminal at O'Hare is.

I'll be there tomorrow on Thanksgiving day! The start of three joyous weeks in Champaign, Illinois.

On purpose?

azgreg wrote:

Longhorned wrote:

legallykenny wrote:It simply cannot be overstated how miserable an experience the United terminal at O'Hare is.

I'll be there tomorrow on Thanksgiving day! The start of three joyous weeks in Champaign, Illinois.

On purpose?

Yes but in chains.

Airports related, but a little more abstract - For those of you who haven't heard of the Essential Air Service (EAS) it's a federally subsidized program ensuring commercial service to rural communities. It's how remote towns in west Nebraska, like McCook, Alliance, and Chadron (with populations of no more than 10,000) keep direct flights to Denver afloat. Arizona has Page, Prescott, and Show Low on the list. Anyway my newest find on Wikipedia is their tabulation of EAS served cities (and their connecting Hubs).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_Air_Service" target="_blank

Sweet!

Thanks catzbyaz !

Anyone one ever flown from Toronto-Pearson (YYZ)? Three hours to get through security, albeit partly due to also checking through the U.S. Customs if bound for the U.S, but still. Arrived 430AM and didn't make it to gate until 8AM flight to Chicago was already boarding. Going through Toronto again in April and making sure to schedule a departure for late in the day.

CatsbyAZ wrote:Anyone one ever flown from Toronto-Pearson (YYZ)? Three hours to get through security, albeit partly due to also checking through the U.S. Customs if bound for the U.S, but still. Arrived 430AM and didn't make it to gate until 8AM flight to Chicago was already boarding. Going through Toronto again in April and making sure to schedule a departure for late in the day.

I connected through Toronto on the way back from Barcelona a year or so ago and actually thought the US customs pre-check was super fast and convenient.
Of course the alternative would have been the nightmare that can be US customs at LAX during the major arrival banks.

legallykenny wrote:

CatsbyAZ wrote:Anyone one ever flown from Toronto-Pearson (YYZ)? Three hours to get through security, albeit partly due to also checking through the U.S. Customs if bound for the U.S, but still. Arrived 430AM and didn't make it to gate until 8AM flight to Chicago was already boarding. Going through Toronto again in April and making sure to schedule a departure for late in the day.

I connected through Toronto on the way back from Barcelona a year or so ago and actually thought the US customs pre-check was super fast and convenient.
Of course the alternative would have been the nightmare that can be US customs at LAX during the major arrival banks.

What I hate is how they bring us through pre-check and then dump us into a terminal that's basically a U.S. terminal. The food quality plummets immediately.

Longhorned wrote:

legallykenny wrote:

CatsbyAZ wrote:Anyone one ever flown from Toronto-Pearson (YYZ)? Three hours to get through security, albeit partly due to also checking through the U.S. Customs if bound for the U.S, but still. Arrived 430AM and didn't make it to gate until 8AM flight to Chicago was already boarding. Going through Toronto again in April and making sure to schedule a departure for late in the day.

I connected through Toronto on the way back from Barcelona a year or so ago and actually thought the US customs pre-check was super fast and convenient.
Of course the alternative would have been the nightmare that can be US customs at LAX during the major arrival banks.

What I hate is how they bring us through pre-check and then dump us into a terminal that's basically a U.S. terminal. The food quality plummets immediately.

But I did get to experience Tim Hortons.

legallykenny wrote:

Longhorned wrote:

legallykenny wrote:

CatsbyAZ wrote:Anyone one ever flown from Toronto-Pearson (YYZ)? Three hours to get through security, albeit partly due to also checking through the U.S. Customs if bound for the U.S, but still. Arrived 430AM and didn't make it to gate until 8AM flight to Chicago was already boarding. Going through Toronto again in April and making sure to schedule a departure for late in the day.

I connected through Toronto on the way back from Barcelona a year or so ago and actually thought the US customs pre-check was super fast and convenient.
Of course the alternative would have been the nightmare that can be US customs at LAX during the major arrival banks.

What I hate is how they bring us through pre-check and then dump us into a terminal that's basically a U.S. terminal. The food quality plummets immediately.

But I did get to experience Tim Hortons.

Tim Hortons is like a Beatles concert at Shea Stadium. Packed with screaming fans going wild for the most mediocre offerings you've ever encountered. Whenever a place is just out of hand with too many people, I say "It's like a Tim Hortons in here."

Since transitioning back West over the course of last year, Denver is now my most common layover (as opposed to Atlanta the year before). Anyone with experience originating a flight from Denver? The TSA lines are enormous - but is that because security check-ins are done from the large centralized space inside the public transportation platform rather than spread out across each terminal? And more uniquely, Denver appears the only U.S. airport where the K-9 walk abouts aren't random. Before reaching the TSA counters posted at the scanners, all foot traffic is walked, two by two, through a wide lane past the noses of one to two "drug detection dogs" being paced about by another layer of TSA agents. My guess as to why goes back to whether Colorado's marijuana tourism necessitated the extra search?

Longhorned wrote:

legallykenny wrote:
I connected through Toronto on the way back from Barcelona a year or so ago and actually thought the US customs pre-check was super fast and convenient.
Of course the alternative would have been the nightmare that can be US customs at LAX during the major arrival banks.

What I hate is how they bring us through pre-check and then dump us into a terminal that's basically a U.S. terminal. The food quality plummets immediately.

Given just how many flights Toronto has direct into America, 40(?), it makes perfect sense to pre-clear the incoming foot traffic through Customs, especially considering that Toronto is the only international non-stop for certain destinations such as Columbus OH and Indianapolis, meaning they wouldn't otherwise need Customs except for Toronto.

My big problem is how long the waits are through US Customs at Toronto. For this latest trip (last Sunday), I arrived to the airport at 330AM, bags checked by 4AM, line through TSA & Customs already building, 3 hours later passport finally stamped just as 725AM flight begins boarding. Toronto is consistently and by far the longest Customs wait I go through, which stands out given how much faster Customs is at the more disorganized New York Airports.

And yes, Longhorned, noticed that too: the Toronto's INT terminal is higher class compared to the different terminal (1) where they centralize all the flights into America. Man, Canadians love Tim Horton's. If anything, you'll learn what a double-double is.

First time in Portland's airport yesterday. Terminals without the typical warehouse-y atmosphere due to their openness and expansive sun roof, which works for the sunny days the Northwest less commonly receives. Not sure how much improvement a sunroof gives to those endless days of drizzle.

Flying through Helsinki at the end of June. So excited to see a new airport for me.

SLC (groan) managed to pull off my 32 minute connection without a hitch. Getting over the Rockies and into SAT was one helluva bumpy ride.

Back in Portland earlier this month; flew out two nights ago, and I gotta say, watching locally filmed short documentaries in the mini-theater of Portland's main terminal is the most relaxing airport wait ever:

CatsbyAZ wrote:Back in Portland earlier this month; flew out two nights ago, and I gotta say, watching locally filmed short documentaries in the mini-theater of Portland's main terminal is the most relaxing airport wait ever:

Love PDX. Can’t wait to get back in August. Movies, decent beer, and Blue Star donuts. It’s simply the best.

Oh. Just remembered I need to rent a car for that trip. Mmmmm donuts.