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For those of you who are interested but not following the @RealTimeWWII twitter feed, Operation Barbarossa is about to kick off.

Chicat wrote:For those of you who are interested but not following the @RealTimeWWII twitter feed, Operation Barbarossa is about to kick off.

I am a big fan of @RealTimeWWII

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I was in New Orleans last week and stopped by the WW2 museum. What an incredibly place to spend time. I spent 6 hours there and could have spent 6 more. Im kicking myself for not stopping by the table of the WW2 vets to talk a bit with them, but the time we swung back around, they were gone.

Just heard a B17 crashed this morning in Connecticut. Not sure which one, big loss.

scumdevils86 wrote:Just heard a B17 crashed this morning in Connecticut. Not sure which one, big loss.

Sure is.

Story not behind a paywall:

azgreg wrote:

SS camp duty was pretty desirable end of the war, since they didn't have to try and stop the Russian hordes, and could accompany the inmates further away from the front.

Too bad that adjutant got away with it for so many years. He deserved hanging too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... t-project/" target="_blank

Tim Taylor was about to end the mission. His team had scoured the seabed off Japan with autonomous underwater vehicles, which are essentially high-tech drones, without a hit. His ship now needed repairs, and a $7 million drone had just reported an error on its latest dive.

All that remained was to download the data from that drone before heading hundreds of miles back to shore.

That’s when they spotted it: An anomalous reading on the ocean floor, more than 1,400 feet deep. The next day, another submersible with high-definition cameras went to investigate.

The images it beamed back left no doubt about what Taylor’s team had found: A hulking ship lay rusting in the pitch-black water. As the camera rounded the bow and panned to the bridge, an eerily preserved plaque came into view: USS Grayback.

http://theconversation.com/black-troops ... 1943-98120" target="_blank

Today would be a good day to periodically check in on this twitter feed....
It’s the pre-dawn hours in Hawaii as I type this.

This must irk some segment of the population, so GOOD!

75th anniversary of the end of WW2 in Europe. Not long before all those with first hand memory of the horror of the most deadly and brutal conflict in humanity's history are gone. Not a surprise that populism and fascism are on the rise when those voices begin to go silent.

scumdevils86 wrote:Not a surprise that populism and fascism are on the rise when those voices begin to go silent.

I wonder what side Trumpsters would choose to be on?

The man who MGGA? The man who favored white male Christian conservatives over the "globalists"? The man who tried to destroy (future) socialist and Communist countries?

Merkin wrote:

scumdevils86 wrote:Not a surprise that populism and fascism are on the rise when those voices begin to go silent.

I wonder what side Trumpsters would choose to be on?

The man who MGGA? The man who favored white male Christian conservatives over the "globalists"? The man who tried to destroy (future) socialist and Communist countries?

Don’t fool yourselves, there were tons of Magastani White Supremacists back then too. 22,000 of them filled Madison Square Garden in 1939 at a German American Bund rally.

Not everyone wanted us to come in on the Allies side. And those fascists passed down their legacy through the generations. I guarantee +70% of these current dipshits would be giving a Nazi salute to Hitler.

Yeah before we were attacked by Japan a sizable minority of Americans didn't necessarily think Hitler was that bad. Definitely not a ton, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was 25%

All true, the US never did declare war on Germany, only Japan.






Charles Lindbergh too.

Wonder what took so long, what an account, strapping himself to the gun:

On December 1, 1942, Sheean was a gunner's mate on the corvette HMAS Armidale, when it came under attack during an operation near Japanese-occupied Timor, now the country of Timor-Leste across the Timor Sea from the Australian city of Darwin.

A painting from the Australian War Memorial depicts the figure of Ordinary Seaman Edward Sheean, a wound on his right thigh, firing an Oerlikon anti-aircraft gun at Japanese bombers on December 1, 1942.

According to the records of the Australian War Memorial (AWM), Sheean's ship was spotted by Japanese reconnaissance planes when it left Darwin on November 29. That meant a perilous mission was coming, as Japan dominated the air and waters around Timor, some 720 kilometers (447 miles) northwest of the Australian port.

On the afternoon of December 1, Japanese warplanes swooped in on the Armidale. The Australian corvette was hit by two torpedoes launched by the Japanese planes and quickly began to sink, according to the AWM. An order was given to abandon ship.

These American mercenaries were the heroes of China
These American mercenaries were the heroes of China
"Sheean was wounded and, rather than abandon ship, he strapped himself to his Oerlikon (anti-aircraft gun) and began to engage the attacking aircraft even as the ship sunk beneath him. He shot down two planes, and crewmates recall seeing tracer rising from beneath the surface as Sheean was dragged under the water, firing until the end," the AWM says.

There were 149 sailors aboard the Australian ship. Forty-nine survived and were plucked from the Timor Sea a week after the sinking. Each likely owed his life to the 18-year-old gunner's mate, according to an expert panel established in June of this year to adjudge Sheean's case.

It was the fourth time the case for the Victoria Cross for Sheean had been reviewed. The first three, in 1942-43, 2013 and 2019, determined Sheean's actions did not rise to a level high enough to warrant the nation's greatest honor.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html" target="_blank

Chicat wrote:

Merkin wrote:

scumdevils86 wrote:Not a surprise that populism and fascism are on the rise when those voices begin to go silent.

I wonder what side Trumpsters would choose to be on?

The man who MGGA? The man who favored white male Christian conservatives over the "globalists"? The man who tried to destroy (future) socialist and Communist countries?

Don’t fool yourselves, there were tons of Magastani White Supremacists back then too. 22,000 of them filled Madison Square Garden in 1939 at a German American Bund rally.

Not everyone wanted us to come in on the Allies side. And those fascists passed down their legacy through the generations. I guarantee +70% of these current dipshits would be giving a Nazi salute to Hitler.

My dad had more than 1 run in with Father Coughlin, a Catholic Nazi radio priest in Detroit. We weren't Catholic, but Dad was a Freemason, and Coughlin's church was 2 maybe 3 miles from our house. They were always running into each other at various civic events.

I wonder what happens when you appease fascists...

azgreg wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:12 am

Always thought this was one of the most remarkable images of the war for the US. And it happens during the first 5 minutes of the war.

There’s a correlation to being an Arizona Football fan here.

Awesome. You get a faint inkling of why the Corsair was called "whistling death" there too.

You almost don't hear the damn thing until it's on you.

Gee, I wonder what it is about Tennessee, of all places, that could have allowed a Nazi concentration camp guard to live there in obscurity for 60 years.

catgrad97 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:34 am Gee, I wonder what it is about Tennessee, of all places, that could have allowed a Nazi concentration camp guard to live there in obscurity for 60 years.

Nothing in particular about Tennessee in this case. Wanted Nazi's have been found hiding in more or less plain sight all over the world ever since the end of the war. There was one found in Melbourne about 25 years ago, right in the middle of the biggest Jewish community in the southern hemisphere.

Those deck guns look like they could still fire. One still has the barrel cap on it.

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:17 pm

Wow I never thought they'd find that ship since it's in one of the deepest parts of the ocean. The guys on that ship were absolute heroes. They almost alone charged 4 Japanese battleships (including the Yamato) and 8 cruisers under insane fire and held them off to allow the American escort carriers to escape.

Never heard about this. What an awful way to die.

16 days to die at Pearl Harbor: Families weren’t told about sailors trapped inside sunken battleship


https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... ZD3mtnpo_w

Thank you for finding abd sharing that story. A very difficult read and the emotions I had were tough so I can’t even imagine those around that ship who heard their knocks and knew what was happening

Saw this posted on a Historical Images FB group I belong to. Sunken Japanese ships.

Is he the one they rigged the lottery for so he could go home early?

Yes I think so. He's also the one who helps destroy a German tank with a bazooka at Carentan in Episode 3.