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the real dill wrote:ccording to Carnegie Wave, CETO has a number of potential commercial advantages over other wave power generating systems (as attn asks: “there’s more than one?”): CETO’s modular design allows for customizable scalability, and its being entirely submerged renders the equipment less susceptible to damage from storms and air erosion. What’s more, explains Australian Energy Minister Ian Macfarlane, the ebb and flow of the ocean is a much more reliable source of power than comparable green-energy systems, such as wind and solar.

http://magazine.good.is/articles/austra ... -generator

(CNN)California Gov. Jerry Brown on Wednesday imposed mandatory water restrictions for the first time on residents, businesses and farms, ordering cities and towns to reduce usage by 25%.

"This historic drought demands unprecedented action," Brown said in a statement.

The 25% cut in usage amounts to roughly 1.5 million acre-feet of water over the next nine months, state officials said.

The actions comes amid the lowest snowpack ever recorded in the state.

Brown's executive order is intended to save water, increase enforcement to prevent waste, streamline the drought response and invest in new drought-fighting technologies, Brown said.

A staggering 11 trillion gallons are needed for California to recover from the emergency.

Brown last month unveiled an emergency $1 billion spending plan to tackle the state's historic drought.

ASUHATER! wrote:Hey that's our water. We need it just as much as California. California should take the money from the train and build desalination plants for that gigantic ocean you have.

Salty wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Hey that's our water. We need it just as much as California. California should take the money from the train and build desalination plants for that gigantic ocean you have.

Arizona and California should join forces and create a super pipe that is able to steal water from the Midwest whenever there's a damn flood.

azgreg wrote:Merk, what's the source of that?

Merkin wrote:

azgreg wrote:Merk, what's the source of that?

Pretty sure it was an April Fool's joke.

ASUHATER! wrote:Hey that's our water. We need it just as much as California. California should take the money from the train and build desalination plants for that gigantic ocean you have.

CHEYENNE — Wyoming will start an active cloud-seeding program in four mountain ranges after its near decade-long research project indicated that the practice can help increase snowpack, which is the state's main source of water.

A water project bill approved in this year's legislative session included $1.4 million to initiate an operational cloud-seeding program in the Big Horn, Laramie, Medicine Bow and Sierra Madre mountains. Separately, it appropriated another $650,000 for cloud seeding in the Wind River Mountains for next winter if other states in the Colorado River Basin chip in money.

Sen. Curt Meier, R-LaGrange, was instrumental in getting money for the weather-modification programs.

"We're trying to play catch-up as a state in Wyoming," Meier said, noting that other states already have cloud-seeding programs. "We've done a lot to get the science and to understand what works and what doesn't work in weather modification."

Cloud seeding involves injecting silver iodide into clouds either from aircraft or from generators on the ground. Under the right conditions, the chemical can help water droplets grow and fall to the ground.

Wyoming last year completed a $13 million research project that began in 2005 to determine whether cloud seeding would increase the amount of snowpack in the Medicine Bow and Sierra Madre ranges in southern Wyoming and the Wind River Range in central Wyoming. The research indicated that cloud seeding can increase mountain snowfall by up to 15 percent a year and has negligible environmental effects.

Most of Wyoming's water supply comes from mountain snowfall that melts and fills reservoirs for crop irrigation and municipal water systems.

Despite the research results, some lawmakers opposed starting a cloud-seeding program, saying the state was moving too quickly.

"They have positive results, but they're not great," Rep. Mike Greear, R-Worland, said. "And now we're just going to go ahead and jump in and take over some different basins."

Greear said he would have preferred more analysis on the economic benefits of cloud seeding. In addition, he's concerned about starting a new program that will draw down a state fund for water projects.

Harry LaBonde Jr., director of the Water Development Office, said it may take several years to establish a cloud-seeding program may because of the many undetermined factors, such as whether environmental studies are required and whether federal permits are needed. How much the program will end up costing once it is established also is not immediately clear, LaBonde said.

"Based on the scientific study, we may want to increase the number of generators, so that affects the cost," he said. "So it really is up in the air. That's what we'll be working on the next year or two."

Meier said he'd like to see neighboring states contribute to Wyoming's program because they also benefit from increased runoff into the rivers that flow through their states. "We'll look for some partners, and I think we'll find it because after all it gets dry out here in the West," he said.

Merkin wrote:Santa Barbara has been cloud seeding since 1981 and continues to do so.

azgreg wrote:

Merkin wrote:Santa Barbara has been cloud seeding since 1981 and continues to do so.

http://cosb.countyofsb.org/pwd/pwwater.aspx?id=3740

What kind of results have you seen?

Merkin wrote:Santa Barbara has been cloud seeding since 1981 and continues to do so.

Merkin wrote:Nearly 40 years ago:

CatsbyAZ wrote:

Merkin wrote:Nearly 40 years ago:

An unbelievable photo. I'll say it again since "unbelievable" is a word drained by overuse now - that is an unbelievable photo.

It's especially notable given that the aquifer reliance has exponentially increased since 1977. Would like to see how much further the land has fallen since then. Then again, maybe I don't really want to see it.

Is anyone worried whether the damage that California's agricultural bed is facing is irreversible? Maybe water-heavy crops like Almonds will be a thing of the past?

Another development has been the turn of attitude on corporate farming throughout California's central valley, with many not pleased with Gov Brown's favorable treatment toward the state's Big Ag. In passive defense of Brown, I'm not sure what his options were given that so much of the Central Valley economy depends on the quenching the thirst of their crops.

Salty wrote:I feel like a pipe for water from flooded areas would be great.

How many times has the Mississippi flooded and destroyed homes, crops, and created damage?

the real dill wrote: California's water problem has existed for decades.

Thanks to their shortsighted thinking and bad policy which has pandered to the eco nazies, they have done NOTHING to fix their problem while at the same time enacting policy which serves to make the problem worse.

Just some of their bad policy:

Embracing ethonal

Refusal to create reservoirs to capture water flowing through Cali

Putting some tiny fish before humans. . .

Refusal to adopt desalination plants

Refusal to adopt individual home water recycling programs

Merkin wrote:

the real dill wrote: California's water problem has existed for decades.

Thanks to their shortsighted thinking and bad policy which has pandered to the eco nazies, they have done NOTHING to fix their problem while at the same time enacting policy which serves to make the problem worse.

Just some of their bad policy:

Embracing ethonal

Refusal to create reservoirs to capture water flowing through Cali

Putting some tiny fish before humans. . .

Refusal to adopt desalination plants

Refusal to adopt individual home water recycling programs

I think the worst policy is not restricting farmers pumping from wells, which is not regulated unlike every other state.

At least where I live, all rivers are routed to reservoirs.

San Diego county also has a 1B desal plant almost ready for operation.

Ethanol is used as a gasoline additive to control automotive smog. The old additive was found in ground water and banned. Never see any E85 gas stations unlike the midwest.

Salty wrote:I feel like a pipe for water from flooded areas would be great.

How many times has the Mississippi flooded and destroyed homes, crops, and created damage?

ASUHATER! wrote:I took a southwest water resources class at the U and we went on a trip to the Tucson water plant over by the sonoran desert museum where the CAP canals end. The guys there basically said if the Colorado runs really low or California takes more than their share then Tucson is fucked because the majority of our water comes from the Colorado and CAP.

ASUHATER! wrote:There are far more of you so it makes a bigger dent for ca to cut back, especially since you have more lawns and things. I personally don't get why anyone north of Orange county has any access to Colorado river water. North of there geographically it should belong to just az, nv, co and ut.

I took a southwest water resources class at the U and we went on a trip to the Tucson water plant over by the sonoran desert museum where the CAP canals end. The guys there basically said if the Colorado runs really low or California takes more than their share then Tucson is fucked because the majority of our water comes from the Colorado and CAP.

the real dill wrote:Even Al Gore has now admitted that ethanol is a sham. The facts are there to be seen. It harms, not helps the environment. It is a colossal waste.

UAdevil wrote:What assholes.


http://kron4.com/2015/05/22/vandals-des ... -into-bay/

Vandals destroy dam, release 49 million gallons of water into Bay

California residents reduced their water use by 27% in June, beating state-mandated targets during the crucial first month of summer, according to figures released today by the State Water Resources Control Board.

The results followed a strong May in which California residents reduced consumption by 29%. By contrast, conservation hit just 14% in April and 4% in March.

Californians must cumulatively reduce water use by at least 25% between June and February as compared to the same months in 2013, under rules adopted by the water board in response to the drought. June was the first month when conservation will count toward that target.

Cities and agencies must cut usage by varying amounts based on how much water they typically use.

Conservation during the summer months is critical because so much water is typically used as temperatures rise and Californians rely on sprinkler systems to maintain their lawns. The June figures show that the newly-brown lawns seen across the state are making a difference in water consumption.

“Californians understand the severity of the drought and they are taking action, as shown by the numbers released today,” said Felicia Marcus, chair of the State Water Resources Control Board, in a prepared statement. “This report shows that residents knew they had to keep conserving even during the summer heat and they kept the sprinklers off more than they would in a normal year.”

Merkin wrote:Lot of brown lawns in my neighborhood. Not mine though, I took out the grass 3 years ago and put in rocks and succulents.