Philosophy thread
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:06 pm
Hard to believe we don't have one of these.
What's the meaning of life for you and all that kind of stuff?
What's the meaning of life for you and all that kind of stuff?
A good friend of mine once introduced me as, "This my friend John. He really likes alcohol."UAEebs86 wrote:I drink, therefore I am.
- René Descartes
Like, we hope for things in the future but we form our understanding for what to hope for from our past experiences?dovecanyoncat wrote:We live out of the future but we understand out of the past.
Just you try to be an old man who gets women without philosophy.azgreg wrote:
I'm a funny guy. Women love a funny guy.Longhorned wrote:Just you try to be an old man who gets women without philosophy.
Immanuel Kant was a real pissantUAEebs86 wrote:I drink, therefore I am.
- René Descartes
More like, the present is a diaphanous illusion, a membrane that exists only to transition the future into the past. All that we are is either retired in a past of varying distance, that no longer exists but bears all ground of reflection and meaning, or out there ahead of us where every choice and action in the moment rests solely as a thing yet to be. Memory and imagination are the poles we are hung between, as if the present matters.Longhorned wrote:Like, we hope for things in the future but we form our understanding for what to hope for from our past experiences?dovecanyoncat wrote:We live out of the future but we understand out of the past.
I'd say that's why we need 1) art, and 2) sports -- especially basketball. For example, no, I can't grasp this fleeting moment right now. But if I'm watching a game I care about, I sure has hell can.dovecanyoncat wrote:More like, the present is a diaphanous illusion, a membrane that exists only to transition the future into the past. All that we are is either retired in a past of varying distance, that no longer exists but bears all ground of reflection and meaning, or out there ahead of us where every choice and action in the moment rests solely as a thing yet to be. Memory and imagination are the poles we are hung between, as if the present matters.Longhorned wrote:Like, we hope for things in the future but we form our understanding for what to hope for from our past experiences?dovecanyoncat wrote:We live out of the future but we understand out of the past.
The modes of time are a real bitch when you think about it.
What if it's the BIG stuff we sweat?azcat49 wrote:You only DIE once but you live everyday. Life is too enjoy so don’t sweat the small stuff. No regrets
Don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.Longhorned wrote:What if it's the BIG stuff we sweat?azcat49 wrote:You only DIE once but you live everyday. Life is too enjoy so don’t sweat the small stuff. No regrets
You can't seriously say this to an Arizona basketball fan.azcat49 wrote:If you can’t change the outcome don’t sweat
Now we're getting there.azgreg wrote:Don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.Longhorned wrote:What if it's the BIG stuff we sweat?azcat49 wrote:You only DIE once but you live everyday. Life is too enjoy so don’t sweat the small stuff. No regrets
The future insists unfinished; the past remains unpredictable.azcat49 wrote:If you can’t change the outcome don’t sweat
Does he mean that, since it's April 10 again, it's time to post in the philosophy thread?CatsbyAZ wrote:Anyone care to help me interpret this one - from the notoriously pessimistic Arthur Schopenhauer:
“Time is that by which at every moment all things become as nothing in our hands, and thereby lose all their true value.”
Everything becomes lost in its very moment? It’s such an abstract thing to say.
It's Kants mode I detest: long Germanic sentences with eleven semicolons and twelve footnotes. It's like listening to John Kerry back in the day. There's not enough breadcrumbs to find your way back out of a single sentence paragraph that wanders back upon itself and ends up with the verbs in its mouth at the end. I dunno. Kant is Thorazine on paper.Longhorned wrote:So why don’t people like Kant? I’ve never met anyone who likes Kant. I feel like later philosophers were all yeah, that’s done, I’ll either build on it or talk about something else.
People also think Nietzsche is weird. I say, read Gilles Deleuze on Nietzsche and see what you think.
Longhorned wrote:
Does he mean that, since it's April 10 again, it's time to post in the philosophy thread?
You're welcome! I gave up on academic philosophy. There are many reasons, but here's two:CatsbyAZ wrote:Longhorned wrote:
Does he mean that, since it's April 10 again, it's time to post in the philosophy thread?
Thanks for the thoughtful response. My own response is to realize that I don't have the mindset (intelligence) to digest academic philosophy like I did 5 - 10 years ago when, in an amateur sense, I would read philosophy. Or more accurately, I read a books about philosophy given how I obviously don't read/speak German. I remember the day/location when I learned of Heidegger's Zuhandenkeit.
I've since been dumbed down by binge watching and the endless parade of vapid news headlines.
1) Big fan of the categorical imperative.Longhorned wrote:You're welcome! I gave up on academic philosophy. There are many reasons, but here's two:CatsbyAZ wrote:Longhorned wrote:
Does he mean that, since it's April 10 again, it's time to post in the philosophy thread?
Thanks for the thoughtful response. My own response is to realize that I don't have the mindset (intelligence) to digest academic philosophy like I did 5 - 10 years ago when, in an amateur sense, I would read philosophy. Or more accurately, I read a books about philosophy given how I obviously don't read/speak German. I remember the day/location when I learned of Heidegger's Zuhandenkeit.
I've since been dumbed down by binge watching and the endless parade of vapid news headlines.
1) In one of the many talks I went to, somebody in the audience asked a question and used Tiger Woods as an example. But the speaker had never heard of Tiger Woods. She'd been going on an on for an hour about Kant, but didn't even know who Tiger Woods is.
2) In another talk, an analytical philosopher spent an hour arguing that there's no such thing as a "car". Instead, it can only be true that there are two separate entities: an "in-car" and an "out-car", whereby an "in-car" is inside a garage at home, and an "out-car" is out in the world. And where it gets really interesting is when the "out-car" comes home, raising ontological questions about what happens as it gradually drives into the garage and exhibits a flux of incalculable states of hybridity before fully becoming an "in-car" again.
In academia, it seems like nobody really cares about academic philosophy, other than the faculty and grad students inside departments of philosophy.
Categorical identity via exclusion disavows the ontological towardsness of belonging. The thing things the thing. It is self-enveloped.catgrad97 wrote:
I always park my car outside, and my wife has given it a name. Therefore it just is a car.
My last philosophy read before giving up was a Hegel overview. Back in Sept 2014. A lot of my giving up had to do with also giving up on theology, which I always read in tandem with philosophy. (Until about 50 or 60 years ago philosophy & theology were taught together.) As late as 2016 I was still reading guys like John Owen and Saint Augustine.Longhorned wrote:CatsbyAZ wrote:
You're welcome! I gave up on academic philosophy. There are many reasons, but here's two:
1) In one of the many talks I went to, somebody in the audience asked a question and used Tiger Woods as an example. But the speaker had never heard of Tiger Woods. She'd been going on an on for an hour about Kant, but didn't even know who Tiger Woods is.
2) In another talk, an analytical philosopher spent an hour arguing that there's no such thing as a "car". Instead, it can only be true that there are two separate entities: an "in-car" and an "out-car", whereby an "in-car" is inside a garage at home...