Sean Miller

Bordercat · Post by **Bordercat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:18 pm

of course CSM is going to be feeling this way at this point. Heck he prob feels like retiring and going to live on some small island in the carribean. Who wouldn't?

The guy needs some time and space.

Doesn't UCONN have their own issues with sanctions and such?

What does worry me is that he is looking at next year and sees a pretty rough go and is thinking, now is time to bail. But I give Miller more credit than that.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:21 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:Miller in the NBA? In the NBA you need the following to be successful:

Great reputation - CHECK!
Big name - CHECK!
PAC 12 COY and Awards Galore - CHECK!
Have an entertaining brand of basketball that is high scoring and fun to watch - Welll...
Be a real maestro of the fast break ala GSW - Ahhhh...
Take elite talent and then exceeds expectations with them- Hrmmm...
Relate to players in such a way that they love bball and have a good time playing loose and having fun - Errrrrr
Innovative and unafraid to think outside the box - Ayyyyyy
I am shocked you forgot "employ an expert zone defense"

That is illegal defense. The NBA has figured out zone is so unbelievably effective, they had to ban it to preserve competitive balance.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:41 pm

97cats wrote:...and the real family tension that subsequently trailed thereafter.

This is the part that leaps off my screen and causes a knot in my stomach

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:52 pm

Actual family or "basketball program" family

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:55 pm

I love Sean. He's a good guy and has succeeded beyond expectations at AZ, particularly in recruiting. If he's ready for a fresh start, I'll wish him well. He's earned our respect, so we owe it to him to stay in his corner.

On the other hand, if he does stay in Tucson, we'll be very lucky. Finding a coach who can do what Miller does is not easy, and while some will argue that he's yet to reach the FF or that he's done less with more, that's BS. He has AZ in a position to win a league title and make a run in the tourney every freaking year. That's what we want in a coach. Oh, and he's done it without cheating. His reputation is taking a hit because of the Book situation, and who knows, maybe Sean turned the other way when he should've fired the guy. Hard to say. But as far as we know, Sean himself didn't cheat.

Anyway, here's hoping he stays in Tucson for many more years. But if he does leave, I'll remain a fan.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:11 pm

I live in CT so if CSM goes to UCONN I would lose my shit. God, anything but that - might be forced to move.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:00 pm

NYCat wrote:Actual family or "basketball program" family

Actual family from what I have heard

Everything 97 has said has been confirmed to me in past 48 hours by various people I know.

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:01 pm

UCONN is largely a lateral move. Not a top five program, but a top 10-15 program with a great history. However, UCONN with have as much or more pressure than the Arizona job because of higher expectations for a title. If it is simply for a change of scenery and a fresh start, sure, UCONN makes sense as a lateral move for personal reasons. But the job is not an upgrade. Miller has established a top ten program in Tucson with his own stamp and identity on it and that cannot be an easy thing to walk away from.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:05 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Has Machina broken into his happy dance yet?
Why on earth would I do that. Miller is the coach of my team and I support him and the team 100%.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:07 pm

midnightx wrote:UCONN is largely a lateral move. Not a top five program, but a top 10-15 program with a great history. However, UCONN with have as much or more pressure than the Arizona job because of higher expectations for a title. If it is simply for a change of scenery and a fresh start, sure, UCONN makes sense as a lateral move for personal reasons. But the job is not an upgrade. Miller has established a top ten program in Tucson with his own stamp and identity on it and that cannot be an easy thing to walk away from.

At this point a fresh start at a program where he will be able to recruit and win big at is exactly what he'd be looking for and UCONN certainly checks all the boxes. He's not afraid of expectations one bit, but he and this fanbase have gone through the ringer together hence why him leaving for a program that's not a blueblood plays now when it wouldn't have before.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:10 pm

Let's see, move east check. Start new, check, go to a program coming off some bad year, check. Lots of recruits local, check. Sucks for us but great for Miller and family.

I think we should start talking about who takes our ship, Romar? Do we get tyo keep #aplayersprogram

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:16 pm

azcat49 wrote:Let's see, move east check. Start new, check, go to a program coming off some bad year, check. Lots of recruits local, check. Sucks for us but great for Miller and family.

I think we should start talking about who takes our ship, Romar? Do we get tyo keep #aplayersprogram

No, Romar would never be considered and who wants a retread who has been on the downward slope for over 5 years?

I start with Chris Beard personally and go from there.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:20 pm

Damn guys. Let's wait for the season to end, fight to keep Miller and only confront replacements if we have to.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:27 pm

I'd like to see us do the right thing and give it to a girl.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:44 pm

Longhorned wrote:I'd like to see us do the right thing and give it to a girl.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:50 pm

UCONN is in the AAC and it's already hard to play non conference teams since no one will do home and homes, I just don't see their rise. I think their ceiling isnt as high now that they aren't in the old Big East. Their decline seems to match the conference realignment.

Bruins01 · Post by **Bruins01** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:09 pm

Um...

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... estigation" target="_blank

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:10 pm

Gutted

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:11 pm

He gone

Bruins01 · Post by **Bruins01** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:11 pm

Before anyone gets pissed at me, I have zero doubt that UCLA will be implicated in this. I just didn't see the story posted here yet.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:13 pm

What a fucking year it's been

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:13 pm

Funny I heard we paid $300k for Ayton

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:13 pm

That is the end. The $100,000+ payment to Bowen sealed Pitino's fate. If true, hard to imagine Miller surviving, let alone going to UCONN.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:14 pm

Newportcat wrote:Funny I heard we paid $300k for Ayton

Negotiated down. Sean Miller is a witch.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:14 pm

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:15 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:
Newportcat wrote:Funny I heard we paid $300k for Ayton

Negotiated down. Sean Miller is a witch.

That’s funny

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:16 pm

Only things I have to say are

I hope it isn't true and no money changed hands.

I would think there is no way to trace it back if Robins and Heeke backed Miller the way they did

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:17 pm

It is probably safe to conclude that what remains of next year's recruiting class is decommitting by the end of next week.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:17 pm

I’m gutted too. What a depressing turn of events. Stunned and deeply saddened at the same time. We are so screwed now.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:19 pm

Little surprised anyone is stunned we paid recruits

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:22 pm

I don't think Miller will be here next year.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:22 pm

One can't eat relative performance. But even knowing how the world works one still has an emotional investment in absolutes. It really fucking hurts on a number of fronts.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:23 pm

Miller should be gone by Monday I'd think. This may be our last tournament appearance for a long time.

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:23 pm

Newportcat wrote:Little surprised anyone is stunned we paid recruits

According to posts from 97cats back in the fall when Book was taken down by the FBI, AZ had been paying six figures for recruits, along with all of the other premier programs. So, it is not surprising to hear his remarks validated. Still, on some level, it is still shocking. Is it going to just be AZ, or are the indiscretions by other programs going to finally be uncovered to the same extent?

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:24 pm

It hurts but it isn't surprising. Every school does the same thing. We need to stop this ruse of academic amateurism.

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:24 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Miller should be gone by Monday I'd think. This may be our last tournament appearance for a long time.

You are probably correct on both counts.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:25 pm

midnightx wrote:
Newportcat wrote:Little surprised anyone is stunned we paid recruits
According to posts from 97cats back in the fall when Book was taken down by the FBI, AZ had been paying six figures for recruits, along with all of the other premier programs. So, it is not surprising to hear his remarks validated. Still, on some level, it is still shocking. Is it going to just be AZ, or are the indiscretions by other programs going to finally be uncovered to the same extent?

I hope so, since I'd we were doing it, so was every other program.

phxcat23 · Post by **phxcat23** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:25 pm

Anyone think that there is any chance at all the Miller was aiding the FBI and trying to get the agency and Book on tape. From older posts when the FBI investigation first came up, there were a handful of posts making it almost seem like Miller knew something was up based on the timing of everything going on, the Romar hire, etc.

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:26 pm

From the other Miller thread:

ztonyg wrote:Arizona Basketball 1984 - 2018. RIP.

sirhamsalot · Post by **sirhamsalot** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:26 pm

Well damn...now we can't even win and vacate.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:26 pm

I can’t help but feel like there’s no way that Miller talked openly about paying players and said when it came to money to only deal with him.

Maybe it’s crazy wishful thinking, but I can’t imagine him being that stupid.

Don’t get me wrong. I believe we pay for players. I just think we’d try to hide it at least a little.

midnightx · Post by **midnightx** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:27 pm

phxcat23 wrote:Anyone think that there is any chance at all the Miller was aiding the FBI and trying to get the agency and Book on tape. From older posts when the FBI investigation first came up, there were a handful of posts making it almost seem like Miller knew something was up based on the timing of everything going on, the Romar hire, etc.

He knew something was up probably because he was involved with his own indiscretions and got wind of what was coming.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:28 pm

phxcat23 wrote:Anyone think that there is any chance at all the Miller was aiding the FBI and trying to get the agency and Book on tape. From older posts when the FBI investigation first came up, there were a handful of posts making it almost seem like Miller knew something was up based on the timing of everything going on, the Romar hire, etc.

If you look at a herd of Zebra in South Africa what are the chances there is a polar bear amongst them? It's possible, I guess.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:32 pm

dovecanyoncat wrote:
phxcat23 wrote:Anyone think that there is any chance at all the Miller was aiding the FBI and trying to get the agency and Book on tape. From older posts when the FBI investigation first came up, there were a handful of posts making it almost seem like Miller knew something was up based on the timing of everything going on, the Romar hire, etc.
If you look at a herd of Zebra in South Africa what are the chances there is a polar bear amongst them? It's possible, I guess.

isn't South Africa kinda like Canada? I feel like a lot of white people are there. Maybe just because of Nash.

So maybe like in a zoo.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:35 pm

SunnyAZ wrote: isn't South Africa kinda like Canada?

No.

Bruins01 · Post by **Bruins01** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:36 pm

Common misconception about South Africa. South Africa is less white than the US is black.

The more you know...

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:37 pm

Boy does my last post sound ridiculous.

In total shock. Might need to be done with college hoops.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:39 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Boy does my last post sound ridiculous.

In total shock. Might need to be done with college hoops.

I think a lot of people including myself knew Miller wouldn't be our coach at the end of the year. Instead he probably isn't our coach right now.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:40 pm

Irish27 wrote:I don't think Miller will be here next year.

Will he even coach tomorrow?

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:41 pm

84Cat wrote:
Irish27 wrote:I don't think Miller will be here next year.
Will he even coach tomorrow?

That's what I was just about to ask. Not even sure what to say right now.

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