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To a certain extent I have to give Dawkins' lawyer a hand because they picked Schlabach for a reason. He's a nobody football reporter right? A guy who makes bowl predictions?
I personally smelled the dead rat immediately following his interview after the Ball State/Central Michigan game. (Don't judge me ) Then immediately afterwards they had bitter beerface (Jeff Goodman) talking about how everyone else was just small time meal infractions. Of course smelling the dead rat and finding it are two different things.
I personally smelled the dead rat immediately following his interview after the Ball State/Central Michigan game. (Don't judge me ) Then immediately afterwards they had bitter beerface (Jeff Goodman) talking about how everyone else was just small time meal infractions. Of course smelling the dead rat and finding it are two different things.
Re: Sean Miller
If this cannot be unraveled/ESPN goes mute, what do we do?
Can we place Miller on paid administrative leave, give Romar the program and tell recruits "either a cleared Sean Miller or LoRo will be your head coach, most likely Romar" and at least get some players who want to play for Romar but would be cool if Sean Miller returned?
Would Romar be cool with that? We only need to make it to the fall/late fall/winter to know definitively.
Down side is we are committing, ala Bozo, to Romar. But WTF? We need to fill like 7 slots.
Can we place Miller on paid administrative leave, give Romar the program and tell recruits "either a cleared Sean Miller or LoRo will be your head coach, most likely Romar" and at least get some players who want to play for Romar but would be cool if Sean Miller returned?
Would Romar be cool with that? We only need to make it to the fall/late fall/winter to know definitively.
Down side is we are committing, ala Bozo, to Romar. But WTF? We need to fill like 7 slots.
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Can we take time to remember that on a national broadcast on ESPNU the commentators reported breaking news that Miller had been fired, and then pulled an "oh sorry" later.
I am still amazed by this.
I am still amazed by this.
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Re: Sean Miller
Oooooh boy this should be fun
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We should come up with an ayra stark hit list of peoples pelts (careers) that I want Arizona and Miller to own once this shitshow is over.Olsondogg wrote:Can we take time to remember that on a national broadcast on ESPNU the commentators reported breaking news that Miller had been fired, and then pulled an "oh sorry" later.
I am still amazed by this.
I’ll start
Schlabach
Bilias
Vitale
Schlabachs editor
Hansen
Columbo
Who else?
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You know shit is crazy when Jim Basnight has showed up to the party.
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Yep.Olsondogg wrote:Can we take time to remember that on a national broadcast on ESPNU the commentators reported breaking news that Miller had been fired, and then pulled an "oh sorry" later.
I am still amazed by this.
This needs to be viewed as an ESPN issue, rather than a random dipshit journalist or two.
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Ryan Appleby must be making a comeback.
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Dan PatrickCalStateTempe wrote:We should come up with an ayra stark hit list of peoples pelts (careers) that I want Arizona and Miller to own once this shitshow is over.Olsondogg wrote:Can we take time to remember that on a national broadcast on ESPNU the commentators reported breaking news that Miller had been fired, and then pulled an "oh sorry" later.
I am still amazed by this.
I’ll start
Schlabach
Bilas
Vitale
Schlabachs editor
Hansen
Columbo
Who else?
One of Pasch or Walton (or we can just settle for the director who decided on the Oregon game graphics)
Myron Medcalf
Jay Williams
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Re: Sean Miller
You are 100 percent correct about this. Been an issue ever since the Pac was the only Power 5 conference to not be a competitive contract negotiator with Bristol in the mid-90s. Possibly before.rgdeuce wrote:Yep.Olsondogg wrote:Can we take time to remember that on a national broadcast on ESPNU the commentators reported breaking news that Miller had been fired, and then pulled an "oh sorry" later.
I am still amazed by this.
This needs to be viewed as an ESPN issue, rather than a random dipshit journalist or two.
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EVCat wrote:Quite a few of us are. #ESPNTimeline or #AytonTimeline or #freemiller seem reasonable.splitsecond wrote:We need to start pounding the pavement as they say. We need hastags and some sort of consistent message to inundate the socials and other media with. We can meme Miller back onto the sidelines, we have accomplished much more difficult tasks with memes.CalStateTempe wrote:As an I Odogg.Olsondogg wrote:Just thought you all should know that I am foaming at the mouth.
After a weekend of processing. I am more pissed now then when the story broke because it is becoming increasingly clear that Arizona and Miller we done severely and terribly wrong. Especially when the ESPN talking heads decided to pile on.
The joe peschi corn field scene in casino would be too kind for schlabach and the rest at ESPN.m
Edit: yes spiff, ESPN tried to bury Arizona’s corpse, the more this is talked about the more we win over joe fan (which needs to happen given the hit Miller took) and have Miller coaching Arizona on the way to this years national chipper.
These are good, although I was thinking more along the lines of #ESPNisISIS
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And yet will likely suffer zero consequences regardless. What a system we have.Chicat wrote:The longer Schlabach and ESPN sit quiet without addressing the holes in that story, the more it feels like they got played into making an accusation that’s either lacking any kind of real evidence, or is flat out false.
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So basically all of ESPN college basketball employees. Said it before, I'll say it again: fuck Hansen. Walton was surprisingly bearable during the game and thought he would come much harder.catgrad97 wrote:Dan PatrickCalStateTempe wrote:We should come up with an ayra stark hit list of peoples pelts (careers) that I want Arizona and Miller to own once this shitshow is over.Olsondogg wrote:Can we take time to remember that on a national broadcast on ESPNU the commentators reported breaking news that Miller had been fired, and then pulled an "oh sorry" later.
I am still amazed by this.
I’ll start
Schlabach
Bilas
Vitale
Schlabachs editor
Hansen
Columbo
Who else?
One of Pasch or Walton (or we can just settle for the director who decided on the Oregon game graphics)
Myron Medcalf
Jay Williams
What even makes me more sick is seeing Bilas and Jay Will with the holier-than-thou routine. If you say you're shocked by this, you're either a liar or an idiot. They know damn well the business of college basketball.
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Walton was bearable because the ghost of Sam Gilbert was standing behind him smiling....
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Fs1 needs to take this opportunity to step on the throats of ESPN like they should have done 5 years ago.NYCat wrote:
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Greenberg toobtfd16 wrote:So basically all of ESPN college basketball employees. Said it before, I'll say it again: fuck Hansen. Walton was surprisingly bearable during the game and thought he would come much harder.catgrad97 wrote:Dan PatrickCalStateTempe wrote:We should come up with an ayra stark hit list of peoples pelts (careers) that I want Arizona and Miller to own once this shitshow is over.Olsondogg wrote:Can we take time to remember that on a national broadcast on ESPNU the commentators reported breaking news that Miller had been fired, and then pulled an "oh sorry" later.
I am still amazed by this.
I’ll start
Schlabach
Bilas
Vitale
Schlabachs editor
Hansen
Columbo
Who else?
One of Pasch or Walton (or we can just settle for the director who decided on the Oregon game graphics)
Myron Medcalf
Jay Williams
What even makes me more sick is seeing Bilas and Jay Will with the holier-than-thou routine. If you say you're shocked by this, you're either a liar or an idiot. They know damn well the business of college basketball.
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Greenberg, Bilas, and especially Vitale...they suck. Only way they regain rep is by giving a pretty damn good apology to AZ and Miller.
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It's been almost two decades since I was a regular on a UA forum but like most here, this story has grabbed my heart and mind and I can't shake loose of it.
I've never been much of a Sean Miller fan. I've always been bothered by his sideline comportment. And while I consider him an above average coach, I still don't think he really knows how to maximize the talent available to him nor has he adjusted well to the changing game. That said, even with the "possible" mishandling of the Pitts situation, I've never once doubted the man's integrity and it will take a lot more than a shaky ESPN report to change that.
I don't believe there's some grand conspiracy to bring Sean or UA down but nothing about the way ESPN handled this during the first 24 hours makes sense to me.
I've never been much of a Sean Miller fan. I've always been bothered by his sideline comportment. And while I consider him an above average coach, I still don't think he really knows how to maximize the talent available to him nor has he adjusted well to the changing game. That said, even with the "possible" mishandling of the Pitts situation, I've never once doubted the man's integrity and it will take a lot more than a shaky ESPN report to change that.
I don't believe there's some grand conspiracy to bring Sean or UA down but nothing about the way ESPN handled this during the first 24 hours makes sense to me.
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Arya stark hit list
I’ll start
Schlabach
Bilas
Vitale
Schlabachs editor
Hansen
Columbo
Dan Patrick
One of Pasch or Walton (or we can just settle for the director who decided on the Oregon game graphics)
Myron Medcalf
Jay Williams
Greenberg
My god, Walton’s opener was awful “ this is the lowest I felt since something in Detroit 25 years go, I’d rather be riding my bike up a mountain than calling this game right now”
I’ll start
Schlabach
Bilas
Vitale
Schlabachs editor
Hansen
Columbo
Dan Patrick
One of Pasch or Walton (or we can just settle for the director who decided on the Oregon game graphics)
Myron Medcalf
Jay Williams
Greenberg
My god, Walton’s opener was awful “ this is the lowest I felt since something in Detroit 25 years go, I’d rather be riding my bike up a mountain than calling this game right now”
Re: Sean Miller
Welcome!AzSRRinCal wrote:It's been almost two decades since I was a regular on a UA forum but like most here, this story has grabbed my heart and mind and I can't shake loose of it.
I've never been much of a Sean Miller fan. I've always been bothered by his sideline comportment. And while I consider him an above average coach, I still don't think he really knows how to maximize the talent available to him nor has he adjusted well to the changing game. That said, even with the "possible" mishandling of the Pitts situation, I've never once doubted the man's integrity and it will take a lot more than a shaky ESPN report to change that.
I don't believe there's some grand conspiracy to bring Sean or UA down but nothing about the way ESPN handled this during the first 24 hours makes sense to me.
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You only have to listen to him on the early Roadtrippin' podcasts about that topic..."I was hungry...(Walton laugh)...but I was NEVER hungry."Olsondogg wrote:Walton was bearable because the ghost of Sam Gilbert was standing behind him smiling....
Which, without context, seems clear, but in context of the conversation is very clear.
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Guess I'm staying away from today's podcastcatgrad97 wrote:Dan PatrickCalStateTempe wrote:We should come up with an ayra stark hit list of peoples pelts (careers) that I want Arizona and Miller to own once this shitshow is over.Olsondogg wrote:Can we take time to remember that on a national broadcast on ESPNU the commentators reported breaking news that Miller had been fired, and then pulled an "oh sorry" later.
I am still amazed by this.
I’ll start
Schlabach
Bilas
Vitale
Schlabachs editor
Hansen
Columbo
Who else?
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There was a day when Bilas would tweet back at yours truly. It seems those days have ended.
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More people in media starting to openly question
Drip, drip...
Drip, drip...
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Welcome back? AFO, GOAzcats...2 decades makes me think the former...AzSRRinCal wrote:It's been almost two decades since I was a regular on a UA forum but like most here, this story has grabbed my heart and mind and I can't shake loose of it.
I've never been much of a Sean Miller fan. I've always been bothered by his sideline comportment. And while I consider him an above average coach, I still don't think he really knows how to maximize the talent available to him nor has he adjusted well to the changing game. That said, even with the "possible" mishandling of the Pitts situation, I've never once doubted the man's integrity and it will take a lot more than a shaky ESPN report to change that.
I don't believe there's some grand conspiracy to bring Sean or UA down but nothing about the way ESPN handled this during the first 24 hours makes sense to me.
Too bad it took this. I think there are a lot of alums among those of us who are a bit older and have done this for a while/been with the program for years who have a similar view. I have always felt Sean would get better...he is relatively young. And, honestly, I thought the job he did this year, down an assistant, FBI noise, a weird mix of veterans and freshmen, was one of his best. The team kept getting better, month by month. From November to December to January to February, with occasional step backs. The bench was starting to contribute more. There were more combinations available. Some subtle changes to how we defended certain action...our ability to shred a 2-3 zone finally.
I don't mind his sideline demeanor that much. Don't mouth off to him. And don't be clearly wrong...otherwise, he is pretty calm compared to many. The Pitts deal? I don't know what he could have done, but agree it was a mess.
I think, if this is wrong, it is because a story was placed in the lap of a reporter hungry for a new, protected, lead position, and the editorial staff at ESPN were feeling the pressure to have a win vs Yahoo.com's reporting, and it got rushed and possibly is partially or wholly wrong. And our fans are going nuts, and rightfully so, because it is the program at stake, and if it isn't ironclad, it might be wrong. Good journalism should hold up to fans trying to poke holes...
But we just won't know unless a miracle happens.
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I can't state this enough: Arizona would be foolish to fire Miller now. They should at the very least, wait. Do nothing if you have to, but this story is stinking up the joint more and more.
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So extend the suspension for now? Through the end of the season? Just let Romar finish the season, and then make harder decisions?Olsondogg wrote:I can't state this enough: Arizona would be foolish to fire Miller now. They should at the very least, wait. Do nothing if you have to, but this story is stinking up the joint more and more.
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I want to keep my mind open to the possibility that Miller is caught on an FBI wiretap on Dawkins from 2016 discussing $100,000 and Deandre Ayton.
In an effort to do so, can anybody here find anybody on the World Wide Web explaining how that would be possible in spite of the logistical and chronological incoherence of an FBI wiretap on Dawkins in 2016?
In an effort to do so, can anybody here find anybody on the World Wide Web explaining how that would be possible in spite of the logistical and chronological incoherence of an FBI wiretap on Dawkins in 2016?
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What suspension?Beachcat97 wrote:So extend the suspension for now? Through the end of the season? Just let Romar finish the season, and then make harder decisions?Olsondogg wrote:I can't state this enough: Arizona would be foolish to fire Miller now. They should at the very least, wait. Do nothing if you have to, but this story is stinking up the joint more and more.
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And add the fact that every one on this board arguably had more pull with Deandre Ayton than Christian Dawkins did.Longhorned wrote:I want to keep my mind open to the possibility that Miller is caught on an FBI wiretap on Dawkins from 2016 discussing $100,000 and Deandre Ayton.
In an effort to do so, can anybody here find anybody on the World Wide Web explaining how that would be possible in spite of the logistical and chronological incoherence of an FBI wiretap on Dawkins in 2016?
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The answer, quite simply, is: No.Longhorned wrote:I want to keep my mind open to the possibility that Miller is caught on an FBI wiretap on Dawkins from 2016 discussing $100,000 and Deandre Ayton.
In an effort to do so, can anybody here find anybody on the World Wide Web explaining how that would be possible in spite of the logistical and chronological incoherence of an FBI wiretap on Dawkins in 2016?
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Olsondogg wrote:There was a day when Bilas would tweet back at yours truly. It seems those days have ended.
Lol. Awesome.
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The thing is, if Miller was tipped off about Book doing his own thing on the side, chances are the FBI wasn't around to get anything on Miller until Dawkins started to communicate with Book. Since this timeline seems so jacked, when was it that Book made contact with Dawkins? That's probably the point in time the FBI started sniffing around Arizona....then found only enough evidence to get Book, and Miller has nothing solid against him.
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We have to do something soon to field a team. But maybe the Romar as acting (like Bozo)/Miller leave of absence Lute route is the way to go. Get some players willing to play for Romar AND Miller. They are going to be lower end 3* hoping for full vindication and a chance to star at a name. If you are that lucky. But we have to field a team.Olsondogg wrote:I can't state this enough: Arizona would be foolish to fire Miller now. They should at the very least, wait. Do nothing if you have to, but this story is stinking up the joint more and more.
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Think back to 2013 and the Pac 12 tournament. Think about your reaction to refs targeting Miller with a Cancun vacation as bounty. At the time, I thought there was no way that could happen. And then the truth came out. And our foul mouthed awesome as hell coach was vindicated. And since then, our program has been dynamic under Miller, with soon to be 4 regular season titles. Whatever Miller has or hasn't done, I can live with if the truth comes out. But I am totally in his corner. And if he's guilty, I'll part ways with forgiveness in my heart. But I still think we win this thing.
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Olsondogg wrote:There was a day when Bilas would tweet back at yours truly. It seems those days have ended.
I'm sure at this point their lawyers told them to stop tweeting.
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What time do they normally have the press conferences each week with Miller?
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as i see it right now, let Coach Miller back on the floor as soon as possible and put everything in the kitchen sink into getting Trier back and making the deepest angriest run in NCAA Tournament history.
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You can wait until the season is over. This isn't too much or too difficult. Fielding a team next year is a problem already and doing something now vs. in a month isn't going to change a damn thing.EVCat wrote:We have to do something soon to field a team. But maybe the Romar as acting (like Bozo)/Miller leave of absence Lute route is the way to go. Get some players willing to play for Romar AND Miller. They are going to be lower end 3* hoping for full vindication and a chance to star at a name. If you are that lucky. But we have to field a team.Olsondogg wrote:I can't state this enough: Arizona would be foolish to fire Miller now. They should at the very least, wait. Do nothing if you have to, but this story is stinking up the joint more and more.
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There you go.97cats wrote:as i see it right now, let Coach Miller back on the floor as soon as possible and put everything in the kitchen sink into getting Trier back and making the deepest angriest run in NCAA Tournament history.
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Okay, not a suspension. You know what I meant. He's already missed a game. Is he kept from missing more? How many? It's really a de-facto suspension, but call it what you like.Olsondogg wrote:What suspension?Beachcat97 wrote:So extend the suspension for now? Through the end of the season? Just let Romar finish the season, and then make harder decisions?Olsondogg wrote:I can't state this enough: Arizona would be foolish to fire Miller now. They should at the very least, wait. Do nothing if you have to, but this story is stinking up the joint more and more.
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Beachcat97 wrote:Okay, not a suspension. You know what I meant. He's already missed a game. Is he kept from missing more? How many? It's really a de-facto suspension, but call it what you like.Olsondogg wrote:What suspension?Beachcat97 wrote:So extend the suspension for now? Through the end of the season? Just let Romar finish the season, and then make harder decisions?Olsondogg wrote:I can't state this enough: Arizona would be foolish to fire Miller now. They should at the very least, wait. Do nothing if you have to, but this story is stinking up the joint more and more.
Like 97 said, you roll him out to the intro of "Bring em out".
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Miller on the court Thursday would send a huge statement and middle finger to ESPN and all the haters.97cats wrote:as i see it right now, let Coach Miller back on the floor as soon as possible and put everything in the kitchen sink into getting Trier back and making the deepest angriest run in NCAA Tournament history.
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Not happening.jsbowl16 wrote:What time do they normally have the press conferences each week with Miller?
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This is what I have been thinking since Saturday tip off. Fuck the rest of the world. I will show up in Vegas if this happens, I don't care if I have bills to pay.97cats wrote:as i see it right now, let Coach Miller back on the floor as soon as possible and put everything in the kitchen sink into getting Trier back and making the deepest angriest run in NCAA Tournament history.
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ALL IN BOYS AND GIRLS97cats wrote:as i see it right now, let Coach Miller back on the floor as soon as possible and put everything in the kitchen sink into getting Trier back and making the deepest angriest run in NCAA Tournament history.
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Why not convince TRIER and rawle to come back one more year? Haha
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The only reason this doesn't happen is if the school knows something we don't.97cats wrote:as i see it right now, let Coach Miller back on the floor as soon as possible and put everything in the kitchen sink into getting Trier back and making the deepest angriest run in NCAA Tournament history.
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I'll throw some coin in...gonna cost more than $100K?CatHoops wrote:Why not convince TRIER and rawle to come back one more year? Haha
I fly like a hawk, or better yet an eagle--a seagull. I sniff suckers out like a beagle...My ego is off and running and gone, Cause I'm about the best and if you diss than that's wrong