Sean Miller

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:24 pm

btfd16 wrote:
cats101 wrote:How about the bomb he dropped around 3:30...about the player that ended up elsewhere....
I think Hansen was half right it was Bowen

I could see that of course. Or Quinerly.

Beefcurtainsandwich · Post by **Beefcurtainsandwich** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:24 pm

You know what might be fun at halftime....
Bring Hansen out to center court... then tar and feather him.

Newportcat · Post by **Newportcat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:24 pm

I’m so fucking happy

Before all this I liked Miller but would be honest and say I didn’t love him like a loved Lute

Now I do

#allin

Let’s win the whole fucking thing

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:24 pm

If I ever wanted to go to a game, it would be tonight... DAMN

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:26 pm

I completely forgot about my hunger through all this... and I don't even care.

cpt · Post by **cpt** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:27 pm

Just wondering...do you think the University or ABOR offered Miller a deal: we will stand by you if you sign an affidavit saying your version of events is true and that if proven untrue, you will forfeit any compensation due? If so, that would be a very powerful statement of Miller's innocence.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:27 pm

Bosy Billups wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Also, ESPN is standing by this reporting:

Someone told our reporter something.

Sure, that could be true. Now is it good journalism to print salacious and career ending allegations without evidence or confirmation? No - it's fucking not.
They aint in the game for good journalism, they are in for "reputation-making stories" for reporters, and eyeballs, add revenue, etc.

YOU MSM FAKE NEWS DENIERS, where art thou? This is how it works! Destroy a man with little recourse. Fuck

lol.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:28 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
cats101 wrote:How about the bomb he dropped around 3:30...about the player that ended up elsewhere....
I think Hansen was half right it was Bowen
I could see that of course. Or Quinerly.

I think it has to be Bowen. Miller said the player did not attend Arizona. In that carefully worded a statement, there's no way he would say that about someone who was not in college yet.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:29 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
cats101 wrote:How about the bomb he dropped around 3:30...about the player that ended up elsewhere....
I think Hansen was half right it was Bowen
I could see that of course. Or Quinerly.
I think it has to be Bowen. Miller said the player did not attend Arizona. In that carefully worded a statement, there's no way he would say that about someone who was not in college yet.

Agreed.

Do we all remember the rumor(?) that Miller knew about the FBI investigation? Imagine he conversed with Dawkins, knew not to step into the trap, and told Dawkins only to speak with him... then Dawkins goes and recruits Book and Pasternack behind Miller's back and that's why Book got got.

cpt · Post by **cpt** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:30 pm

scumdevils86 wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Also, ESPN is standing by this reporting:

Someone told our reporter something.

Sure, that could be true. Now is it good journalism to print salacious and career ending allegations without evidence or confirmation? No - it's fucking not.
They aint in the game for good journalism, they are in for "reputation-making stories" for reporters, and eyeballs, add revenue, etc.

YOU MSM FAKE NEWS DENIERS, where art thou? This is how it works! Destroy a man with little recourse. Fuck
lol.

What we learned is ESPN is a far cry from The New York Times, Washington Post and, hell, even Yahoo.

BBQ wildcat · Post by **BBQ wildcat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:30 pm

cpt wrote:Just wondering...do you think the University or ABOR offered Miller a deal: we will stand by you if you sign an affidavit saying your version of events is true and that if proven untrue, you will forfeit any compensation due? If so, that would be a very powerful statement of Miller's innocence.

We may know later this afternoon if, after executive session, ABOR goes into open meeting to ratify changes to his contract.

520in480 · Post by **520in480** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:31 pm

The old rope-a-dope!

Let ESPN, Vitale, Bilas, etc. pummel you for five days and then ...

BE4RDOWN21 · Post by **BE4RDOWN21** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:33 pm

I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:35 pm

Miller saying he also never met Dawkins until after Deandre signed is another bomb dropped. The fact that ESPN went back and changed their date by a year to "match" the timeline makes me even more pissed. I've gotten so much shit over this the past few days from friends of other schools and non-UofA fans. I've stayed rather quiet because I wanted facts but I want ESPN taken down. They are a monster machine but fuck it, I hope we fight them head on now.

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:35 pm

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something

We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred

atlantakat · Post by **atlantakat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:38 pm

btfd16 wrote:
BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something
We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred

Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

tucsonsean · Post by **tucsonsean** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:41 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:ESPN stands by its reporting on Miller and the FBI investigation.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ng-recruit

By saying that all ESPN is saying is "we stand by our report that this source told Schlabach that the wiretap said this". What ESPN fails to acknowledge is whether it was true - the only TRUTH here is that some dude told ESPN this, not that it was true what the source said. What they fail to acknowledge is publication of this was tantamount to ESPN saying it was truth.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:41 pm

Nothing about him staying beyond this season. The man has been through the ringer. I hope he feels the love tonight at McKale.

SteveKerrsStroke · Post by **SteveKerrsStroke** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:41 pm

atlantakat wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something
We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred
Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

Santa is real!!!

WildHolcs · Post by **WildHolcs** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:42 pm

Fuuuuuuuuckkkkk yeaaaaaa! Got out of class, checked the headlines and video walking down a hallway, started jumping uncontrollably. So stoked

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:43 pm

atlantakat wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something
We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred
Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

why? don't like the truth?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:44 pm

atlantakat wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something
We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred
Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

Don't be naive

MrMeow · Post by **MrMeow** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:45 pm

When Miller *especially* thanked Dr. Robbins for his support, he neglected to mention Heeke. Odd?

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:45 pm

http://www.espn.com/espn/corrections" target="_blank

ESPN reporting
March 1, 2018 1:39 PM
Additional reporting confirmed that ESPN was correct in a Feb. 24 SportsCenter video talk back which stated that Arizona coach Sean Miller and Christian Dawkins, a key figure in the FBI's investigation into college basketball corruption, spoke in 2017. A correction of that report, issued Feb. 25, misstated that the conversation in question took place in 2016. ESPN stands by the reporting of the story on SportsCenter and ESPN digital media.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:45 pm

Third time's the charm?

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:47 pm

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:48 pm

atlantakat wrote:
btfd16 wrote:
BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something
We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred
Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

Sorry, I am ready to run through a brick wall I was just responding as to why Miller probably said that HE never has and never will.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:52 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Beefcurtainsandwich wrote:ESPN standing by their report...
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ng-recruit" target="_blank
"ESPN stands by its reporting on Miller and the FBI investigation" = "It's not our fault. It's our sources' fault."

They will defend by saying "well...Miller IS on tape discussing payment of a player with Dawkins. So he didn't do it and said "don't talk with Book...talk with me" when Dawkins asked if he should deal with indicted coach Emmanuel "Book Rhymes with Look" Richardon"

Does it work? I dunno

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:54 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:Third time's the charm?

Save ALL the screenshots, but it doesn't matter.

There are other gross inaccuracies in the story, and the responses to them by ESPN will bury Bristol, even if they want to commit technicalities about the wiretap timeline.

Sid · Post by **Sid** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:56 pm

Question. Is it too early to start drinking?

Asking for a friend....

Thanks!

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:56 pm

but is he coaching tonight?

Siempre Verde · Post by **Siempre Verde** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:04 pm

It’d better be CSM saying “this, is Arizona” tonight.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:05 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
phxcat23 wrote:What’s happening can’t watch
Miller flat out denying any wrong doing. Called ESPN report defamatory and harmful. Respect for on-going investigation and won't share further details.

Sounds like Dawkins spoke with Miller about paying a player and Miller says he rejected that offer but won't go further.

HE'S FUCKING BACK

nah, I think the CBS guys got it right when they said Dawkins probably approached Miller about trying to get Ayton to go with sign with their agency

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:09 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
phxcat23 wrote:What’s happening can’t watch
Miller flat out denying any wrong doing. Called ESPN report defamatory and harmful. Respect for on-going investigation and won't share further details.

Sounds like Dawkins spoke with Miller about paying a player and Miller says he rejected that offer but won't go further.

HE'S FUCKING BACK
nah, I think the CBS guys got it right when they said Dawkins probably approached Miller about trying to get Ayton to go with sign with their agency

I don't think that's correct. Miller was pretty specific the offer was for a player who did not enroll at Arizona.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:18 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
SunnyAZ wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
phxcat23 wrote:What’s happening can’t watch
Miller flat out denying any wrong doing. Called ESPN report defamatory and harmful. Respect for on-going investigation and won't share further details.

Sounds like Dawkins spoke with Miller about paying a player and Miller says he rejected that offer but won't go further.

HE'S FUCKING BACK
nah, I think the CBS guys got it right when they said Dawkins probably approached Miller about trying to get Ayton to go with sign with their agency
I don't think that's correct. Miller was pretty specific the offer was for a player who did not enroll at Arizona.

he was talking about in general, not with Dawkins. Why would Dawkins care if a player came to UA? His job is to get players to sign with their agency.

The ESPN report is probably mostly right, good thing for us they made themselves look foolish in the process. Most likely Dawkins talked to Miller about persuading Ayton to sign with them, with the 100K going to Miller to do it. The initial report never said anything about the transaction going through, only that there was a discussion. Miller most likely shut it down hence why there was no mention of it in Dawkins' expense report that Yahoo leaked earlier.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:22 pm

We don't know how much of the ESPN report is accurate. Without the taps, under federal seal, or verification of one dubious source, you just are left with gossip.

So that network has done zilch to merit any benefit of doubt on the Miller story to date.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:24 pm

catgrad97 wrote:We don't know how much of the ESPN report is accurate. And that network has done zilch to merit any benefit of doubt on the Miller story to date.

Miller did mention he talked to Dawkins in the press conference. I doubt he talked to him about how his day was going.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:24 pm

billk78 wrote:I expect McHale to probably be the loudest it's ever been for tonight's game.

oooooof

ya just took my tickets down, Im going now! StubHub had $35 tickets and they went to $130 immediately

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:24 pm

ESPN radio guys are pretty defiant today. They feel offended by Miller's statement today. ESPN's ill will for AZ knows no bounds.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:25 pm

Gottlieb said he believes him

Miller entering McKale tonight

Beefcurtainsandwich · Post by **Beefcurtainsandwich** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:26 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:ESPN radio guys are pretty defiant today. They feel offended by Miller's statement today. ESPN's ill will for AZ knows no bounds.

They can all suck my puckerhole

ezinaz · Post by **ezinaz** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:26 pm

SI piles on ESPN:

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... spn-report" target="_blank

By MICHAEL MCCANN March 01, 2018

As Arizona coach Sean Miller forcibly professed his innocence on Thursday in a statement that affirmed his status with the team, a source familiar with the college hoops corruption investigation confirmed with SI that the details of a wiretapped phone call involving Miller were inaccurately reported in a story by ESPN that said Miller “discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats.”

According to the source, relevant FBI wiretaps in the investigation did not begin until 2017—months after five-star recruit Deandre Ayton had already committed to Arizona in Sept. 2016. This account is consistent with reporting by Evan Daniels of 247Sports. The recruitment of Ayton, therefore, would have not been at issue in an intercepted phone call that occurred in 2017. To that end, the source told SI what Miller clarified for the first time Thursday: Ayton is not the player on whose behalf former ASM Sports employee Christian Dawkins allegedly sought a payment from Miller, and Miller never pursued or made any payments to a recruit associated with Dawkins.

This account depicts Miller as complying with both the law and NCAA recruiting rules. The same holds true of Ayton, whose compliance with NCAA rules would ensure that he remains eligible to play for the final month of his freshman year.

For his part, Miller made clear on Thursday that he will fight the allegations. In a press conference held at the university, Miller stressed that he had “never paid a recruit or a prospect” and would never do so. He also asserted that he and Ayton have suffered “defamation” by the manner in which the media has reported the allegations. The possibility of Miller and Ayton filing defamation lawsuits is examined more closely below.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:27 pm

Wow, very very happy to see coach Miller is back. This is about as good an outcome as could be expected.

ESPN is utterly and completely dead to me. Their scumbag sackless commentators will never regain an ounce of respect in my eyes and by the way........karma's a bitch.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:29 pm

cpt wrote:
scumdevils86 wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:Also, ESPN is standing by this reporting:

Someone told our reporter something.

Sure, that could be true. Now is it good journalism to print salacious and career ending allegations without evidence or confirmation? No - it's fucking not.
They aint in the game for good journalism, they are in for "reputation-making stories" for reporters, and eyeballs, add revenue, etc.

YOU MSM FAKE NEWS DENIERS, where art thou? This is how it works! Destroy a man with little recourse. Fuck
lol.
What we learned is ESPN is a far cry from The New York Times, Washington Post and, hell, even Yahoo.

Plus...it stands out because MSM does not make these kind of mistakes often.

Same cannot be said about web -only outlets that cater to one side or the other.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:30 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
SunnyAZ wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
phxcat23 wrote:What’s happening can’t watch
Miller flat out denying any wrong doing. Called ESPN report defamatory and harmful. Respect for on-going investigation and won't share further details.

Sounds like Dawkins spoke with Miller about paying a player and Miller says he rejected that offer but won't go further.

HE'S FUCKING BACK
nah, I think the CBS guys got it right when they said Dawkins probably approached Miller about trying to get Ayton to go with sign with their agency
I don't think that's correct. Miller was pretty specific the offer was for a player who did not enroll at Arizona.
he was talking about in general, not with Dawkins. Why would Dawkins care if a player came to UA? His job is to get players to sign with their agency.

The ESPN report is probably mostly right, good thing for us they made themselves look foolish in the process. Most likely Dawkins talked to Miller about persuading Ayton to sign with them, with the 100K going to Miller to do it. The initial report never said anything about the transaction going through, only that there was a discussion. Miller most likely shut it down hence why there was no mention of it in Dawkins' expense report that Yahoo leaked earlier.

Here's the direct quote:

"I also want you to know that the one time someone suggested to me paying a player to come to the University of Arizona I did not agree to it. It never happened and that player did not come to the University of Arizona. Out of respect for this ongoing investigation and the privacy of the student-athlete and his family, I'm not going to share further details concerning this matter."

Assuming ESPN didn't completely fabricate their story and Miller's comment is a response, this has to be a reference about what does exist on a wire. He acknowledged knowing Dawkins, so it's a fair assumption the wire is with Dawkins. Given that Dawkins was involved in the 100k negotiations with Dawkins...I feel pretty confident that Miller pretty much laid out a Dawkins discussion that it would be 100k for Bowen.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:31 pm

I will only watch ESPN from now on if there is an Arizona game being played.

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm

This is March

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm

I can see how this DEFINITELY keeps Miller in Tucson.

Wow '97, what a turn of events.

Thoughts?

NYCat · Post by **NYCat** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm

ezinaz wrote:SI piles on ESPN:

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... spn-report" target="_blank

As Arizona coach Sean Miller forcibly professed his innocence on Thursday in a statement that affirmed his status with the team, a source familiar with the college hoops corruption investigation confirmed with SI that the details of a wiretapped phone call involving Miller were inaccurately reported in a story by ESPN that said Miller “discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats.”

According to the source, relevant FBI wiretaps in the investigation did not begin until 2017—months after five-star recruit Deandre Ayton had already committed to Arizona in Sept. 2016. This account is consistent with reporting by Evan Daniels of 247Sports. The recruitment of Ayton, therefore, would have not been at issue in an intercepted phone call that occurred in 2017. To that end, the source told SI what Miller clarified for the first time Thursday: Ayton is not the player on whose behalf former ASM Sports employee Christian Dawkins allegedly sought a payment from Miller, and Miller never pursued or made any payments to a recruit associated with Dawkins.

This account depicts Miller as complying with both the law and NCAA recruiting rules. The same holds true of Ayton, whose compliance with NCAA rules would ensure that he remains eligible to play for the final month of his freshman year.

For his part, Miller made clear on Thursday that he will fight the allegations. In a press conference held at the university, Miller stressed that he had “never paid a recruit or a prospect” and would never do so. He also asserted that he and Ayton have suffered “defamation” by the manner in which the media has reported the allegations. The possibility of Miller and Ayton filing defamation lawsuits is examined more closely below.

Hahahaha

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm

ezinaz wrote:SI piles on ESPN:

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... spn-report" target="_blank

As Arizona coach Sean Miller forcibly professed his innocence on Thursday in a statement that affirmed his status with the team, a source familiar with the college hoops corruption investigation confirmed with SI that the details of a wiretapped phone call involving Miller were inaccurately reported in a story by ESPN that said Miller “discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats.”

According to the source, relevant FBI wiretaps in the investigation did not begin until 2017—months after five-star recruit Deandre Ayton had already committed to Arizona in Sept. 2016. This account is consistent with reporting by Evan Daniels of 247Sports. The recruitment of Ayton, therefore, would have not been at issue in an intercepted phone call that occurred in 2017. To that end, the source told SI what Miller clarified for the first time Thursday: Ayton is not the player on whose behalf former ASM Sports employee Christian Dawkins allegedly sought a payment from Miller, and Miller never pursued or made any payments to a recruit associated with Dawkins.

This account depicts Miller as complying with both the law and NCAA recruiting rules. The same holds true of Ayton, whose compliance with NCAA rules would ensure that he remains eligible to play for the final month of his freshman year.

For his part, Miller made clear on Thursday that he will fight the allegations. In a press conference held at the university, Miller stressed that he had “never paid a recruit or a prospect” and would never do so. He also asserted that he and Ayton have suffered “defamation” by the manner in which the media has reported the allegations. The possibility of Miller and Ayton filing defamation lawsuits is examined more closely below.

Someone responded to their tweet with this gif and I laughed too hard not to share.

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