Wisconsin and the West

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:24 pm

Sounds familiar, no?

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:46 pm

I wouldn't mind a repeat of the 2 seed beating the 1.

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:47 pm

Not scary.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:47 pm

Insanely tough road. Just brutal

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:52 pm

It's a pretty nice path to the Final Four. Slow down the four guys on the court with Kaminsky.

UAGreg · Post by **UAGreg** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:03 pm

Committee just keeping the redemption tour rolling

Potentially OSU in the second round

etank34 · Post by **etank34** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:06 pm

Miller gets to finally take out Matta and the Grinch.

etank34 · Post by **etank34** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:07 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Insanely tough road. Just brutal

Please never change.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:11 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Insanely tough road. Just brutal

VCU/Baylor as potential matchups aren't that bad. I was shocked how much love the Big 12 got. Wisky's tough, but not unbeatable.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:12 pm

Potenial 2nd round matchup against Thad Matta. Potential sweet 16 against Xavier. Potential Elite 8 against Wisconsin. CSM Memory Lane Tour.

Bring it on!

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:15 pm

my friend's take:

bo ryan seems to have a subversive disdain for the more free-flowing aesthetics of basketball that make a conservative team oddly fascinating in the same way that even the most buttoned-up perry como xmas song is hard to turn off when it comes on the radio. it's like watching orderly traffic cross a bridge for 40 minutes.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:19 pm

Baylor's zone doesn't scare anybody? It's our biggest weakness and they have it perfected. It's not like UCLA who threw together a zone and almost beat us with it. Fuck, I really didn't want that matchup. Thankfully their offense isn't very good and their biggest strength, offensive rebounding, should be negated by our rebounding

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:21 pm

you forgot that baylor would win the pac-12 by four games

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:22 pm

I saw them at the 3 and told my wife shit, they play a zone. One game they look like a top 8 team, next game they blow.

We could have had much easier road but oh well. Keep winning

loomer · Post by **loomer** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:27 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:Baylor's zone doesn't scare anybody? It's our biggest weakness and they have it perfected. It's not like UCLA who threw together a zone and almost beat us with it. Fuck, I really didn't want that matchup. Thankfully their offense isn't very good and their biggest strength, offensive rebounding, should be negated by our rebounding

I agree. Baylor is the only real roadblock I see until the Elite 8. I'm hoping BYU can get hot and somehow knock them out before then.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:31 pm

I wish we were the #2 in the south. Gonzaga has a much easier road to the final 4 and beyond

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:31 pm

We've played much better against the zone of late.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:32 pm

didn't matta switch up his system to zone? osu game would be a nice tune-up, if it happens

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:34 pm

azgreg wrote:We've played much better against the zone of late.

Other than the two ucla games very recently

loomer · Post by **loomer** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:38 pm

dirtbags wrote:didn't matta switch up his system to zone? osu game would be a nice tune-up, if it happens

They're playing more of a packline this year

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:47 pm

Of the three seeds, I'd want Oklahoma, Baylor, Iowa State, Notre Dame, in that order. Baylor presents a challenge, but it's a third round game. Nothing easy at that point. I was glad when they announced Iowa State in the South, and I knew that meant Baylor. We play defense, too.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:00 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Insanely tough road. Just brutal

I'm feeling good about our road now.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:01 pm

dirtbags wrote:my friend's take:

bo ryan seems to have a subversive disdain for the more free-flowing aesthetics of basketball that make a conservative team oddly fascinating in the same way that even the most buttoned-up perry como xmas song is hard to turn off when it comes on the radio. it's like watching orderly traffic cross a bridge for 40 minutes.

They have not seen the likes of a Rondae or TJ. We are going to really ramp it up against them if it comes to that.

'ZONA97 · Post by **'ZONA97** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:08 pm

CBCat wrote:
dirtbags wrote:my friend's take:

bo ryan seems to have a subversive disdain for the more free-flowing aesthetics of basketball that make a conservative team oddly fascinating in the same way that even the most buttoned-up perry como xmas song is hard to turn off when it comes on the radio. it's like watching orderly traffic cross a bridge for 40 minutes.

They have not seen the likes of a Rondae or TJ. We are going to really ramp it up against them if it comes to that.

Actually, they have.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:13 pm

Scott Drew is still the coach at Baylor, right?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:17 pm

I cannot wait to get this tourney started. I have AZ winning it all. Sharpie.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:19 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Insanely tough road. Just brutal

If we play like we did against (fill in the blank ), then (fill in the blank) beats us by 30.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:23 pm

Chicat wrote:I cannot wait to get this tourney started. I have AZ winning it all. Sharpie.

The Cats seem to be peaking at the right time. Baylor and Wisky should be concerned about us.

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:24 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Insanely tough road. Just brutal

I remember a team that put away Godd Shamgod and then 3 number 1 seeds. Can't for the life of me remember who it was, though.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:53 pm

Baylor would be scarier on the back end of two games.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:55 pm

gumby wrote:Baylor would be scarier on the back end of two games.

If we are "scared" of playing Baylor under any circumstance, then we have no business talking about making a Final 4 or winning a national championship.

'ZONA97 · Post by **'ZONA97** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:01 pm

We struggle against zones with size/length. UCLA actually has a better average height and effective height than Arizona. Baylor has neither. They are very, very mediocre in both, actually.

Scott Drew also shouldn't strike any fear into anyone for obvious reasons.

There is nothing until the Elite 8 that really concerns me. We beat either VCU or Ohio State by 10+ IMO.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:02 pm

JWill just picked Arizona to beat Gonzaga for the NC.
Seth, Dick and Rece picked Arizona over Wisky.
Missed the Bilas picks.

Gottlieb and Davis picked Arizona in FF.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:04 pm

gumby wrote:JWill just picked Arizona to beat Gonzaga for the NC.
Seth, Dick and Rece picked Arizona over Wisky.
Missed the Bilas picks.

Bilas picked Wiscy to knock us out, with UK beating Duke in the finals.

'ZONA97 · Post by **'ZONA97** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:04 pm

gumby wrote:JWill just picked Arizona to beat Gonzaga for the NC.
Seth, Dick and Rece picked Arizona over Wisky.
Missed the Bilas picks.

Bilas had Wisconsin over Arizona.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:07 pm

Zero wrote:Scott Drew is still the coach at Baylor, right?

That's why I'm not particularly scared of Baylor.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:08 pm

Yup, Scott Drew.

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:37 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Insanely tough road. Just brutal

huh?

come again?

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:44 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Insanely tough road. Just brutal

F this, Wisconsin should be shitting their pants thinking about having to go back to LA to play us again this year.

Talk about motivation.

Not as worried about VCU/Ohio State/Baylor as others. Rondae on Russell would be fun to watch.

Baylor hasn't played very well away from home, I don't think they would fare very well against Arizona in Staples if they even make it that far.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:55 pm

Arizona should and will make quick work of the west bracket until we reach the EE.

The game with the Badgers will be a war of attrition, but I think we get them by 2-4 points for the win.

Facing a undefeated Kentucky team in the FF semi finals is a discussion on a whole other level.

The Arizona / Kentucky FF game will actually be the National Championship game because whomever wins that game is winning to whole thing.

It will either be the cactus Cats or the blue grass Cats for the NC!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:56 pm

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:01 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
gumby wrote:JWill just picked Arizona to beat Gonzaga for the NC.
Seth, Dick and Rece picked Arizona over Wisky.
Missed the Bilas picks.
Bilas picked Wiscy to knock us out, with UK beating Duke in the finals.

Bilas has gotten so bad.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:03 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
gumby wrote:Baylor would be scarier on the back end of two games.
If we are "scared" of playing Baylor under any circumstance, then we have no business talking about making a Final 4 or winning a national championship.

I just talk hoops. I'm not on the team or motivational circuit.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:07 pm

Wally S. picked Arizona all the way.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:05 pm

Fran Fraschilla, Tim Welsh, Cory Alexander pick Arizona in the West. Only Gaudio on that panel picked Wisky.

Nate Silver of 538: Arizona 46 percent chance to advance. Wisky, 33 percent. UNC 8 percent. Baylor 5 percent. OSU 3 percent.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:40 pm

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:45 am

Gonna assume we are the red jersey because of the blue hair.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:38 am

That 538 tool is a lot of fun.

The only team I'm worried about before Wisky is Baylor and only because of the zone. IMO, the zone gives an inferior team a better chance to win if the superior team has an off night. We play any better than below average and we win that one going away. Wisky worries me because their offense is enough better than ours to overcome our superior defense, and, well because of last year.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:57 am

Need York to show up for that Baylor game. And the way bash has been playing, I want him in the middle of that zone and have Zeus and Rondae on the low blocks.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:36 am

rgdeuce wrote:Need York to show up for that Baylor game. And the way bash has been playing, I want him in the middle of that zone and have Zeus and Rondae on the low blocks.

If we rebound effectively, we can hammer Baylor. The only times we've had an issue with zone (first OSU, UCLA) it's been coupled with poor rebounding. Zone gives you a chance to get on the offensive glass. TJ and Stan are the big ones to knock it down to spread the D, imo. Better to have your regular guys bust the zone than rely on a zone buster.

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