UCLA Basketball in trouble!

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:05 am

Merkin wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Alford's seat hot after this year?
UCLA will need to come up with $10.4 million to fire him.

They would probably owe him about $1.5M per year left on the contract. That is under the assumption that Steve could get another college basketball coaching job that paid him about $1M a year. So if they fired him after year three (leaving I believe 4 years on the contract), you'd be looking at around $6M. One would assume that combined with the disastrous PR in the hiring of Steve would be enough to cost Guerrero his job which, of course, is why Guerrero wouldn't fire Steve.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:20 pm

SCCat wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:Alford's seat hot after this year?
Not sure it's possible with that contract. I mean sure, his seat can get hot with the fans, but if his seat isn't hot with Guerrero (and one would assume if Guerrero had to fire Steve after three years he would lose his position, although that has been thought to be the case before and it didn't happen) then it would just be the perception that it's hot but not the reality.

Or perhaps he's start winning tons of games. Who knows.

Hes fired two two basketball and football coaches already. Im pretty sure hes made of Teflon at this point

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:45 pm

UCLA gives Alford a one-year extension.
http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.d ... =209695190

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:11 pm

Irish27 wrote:UCLA gives Alford a one-year extension.
http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.d ... =209695190

Really??

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:34 pm

Did they just discover that he has an illegitimate kid that will have eligibility until then or something?

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:38 am

In 2013-14, his first season as UCLA’s head coach, Alford led the Bruins to a 28-9 record while guiding UCLA to its first NCAA Tournament Sweet 16 appearance and first Pac-12 Tournament title since 2008. The Bruins, who also registered their highest single-season win total since 2007-08,

I'd understand the extension if the season had just ended... but why now? Why not make him earn it by winning the conference or having an amazing tournament run? Is a second place finish and a sweet 16 appearance all it takes to get another year? Or does winning the conference tournament matter that much?

But the football team is undefeated. I guess as long as they're playing well, Dan Guerrero can do whatever he wants with the other sports.

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:13 am

Football team no longer undefeated....but anyway -

I thought I remember the big problem most UCLA fans had with the Alford hire was the length/buyout of the original deal? And now one year later they're extending it? One year?

I don't follow these things but how in the hell does that make any sense? At all?

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:20 am

It's pretty difficult to understand why UCLA at this exact point needed to extend Alford's contract from ending in 2020 to ending in 2021. Bad incentive structures might've had something to do with it.

Guerrero can't say "Well, hiring a rape apologist from the Indiana 'We hate UCLA' tree was a mistake so we're getting rid of him." --->Guerrero fired

So why not just double down on it, give him an extension and say "Steve's a great hire...and I'm a genius for hiring him." ----->Even if Guerrero is wrong, he won't be around for 2020 so no cost to him to extend and be wrong. Instead he extends for one year to get the "extension press conference" where he says Steve was a great hire, thus pushing kudos to himself (in the short term) by logical extension.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:48 am

Alford at UCLA relegates that program to second tier status for the near and distant future. He's no better than the 5th best coach in his own league. Can't imagine that sets well with UCLA fans.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:04 am

I know personally that majority of the uCla fan base is uninspired by their head coach...

With that said, I believe that this extension could not have happened at any other time. I don't see them having a better year this than last.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:49 pm

Olsondogg wrote:I know personally that majority of the uCla fan base is uninspired by their head coach...

With that said, I believe that this extension could not have happened at any other time. I don't see them having a better year this than last.

UCLA has a very difficult schedule, and a young, unproven team. I expect them to look very "bubbly" by March.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:48 pm

Odd

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/ ... /16945007/

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:38 pm

Kobe to UCLA

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:49 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Kobe to UCLA

What's he doing at UCLA?

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:41 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Kobe to UCLA

Partial qualifier?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:44 pm

Galvanize the SoCal Filipino community?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:07 pm

Who?

I can't find a ranking for this guy anywhere.

Heh.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:17 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Who?

I can't find a ranking for this guy anywhere.

Heh.

I'm assuming you are probably using Windows 3.1 out in Riverside. Or was it Mira Loma?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:04 am

MrBug708 wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Who?

I can't find a ranking for this guy anywhere.

Heh.
I'm assuming you are probably using Windows 3.1 out in Riverside. Or was it Mira Loma?

You can tell he's mad. Look, man, it's not my fault Alford is reeling in the lesser recruits by the dozen. It should tell you something that not a single media outlet considered this commitment newsworthy.

HEH

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:46 pm

lol...are you having conversations with yourself?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:09 am

lol = the new "heh"?

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:07 pm

Pulling Ingram from NC would be quite a coup. Could go well with Zimmerman, Bragg, and Brown.

Added to Ali and Holiday.

Not sure we land all four of those in the first line. Thinking two for sure, probably three.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:53 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Pulling Ingram from NC would be quite a coup. Could go well with Zimmerman, Bragg, and Brown.

Added to Ali and Holiday.

Not sure we land all four of those in the first line. Thinking two for sure, probably three.

Bug, if you were your betting man, who are the first two, and maybe three?

The smoke is Zim and Brown. Is there fire?

That would be great, Arizona needs someone better to practice against before the tourney.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:04 pm

Odds?

Bragg - 80%
Brown - 50/50 with UK
Ingram - 75%
Zimmerman? No idea. Mom is all over the place. I think she wants the Josiah Turner treatment during his recruitment

A terrible season with nobody eligible could derail all of this, but UCLA is using ADIDAS pretty effectively right now.

And watch UCLA land none and the board is subjugated to an endless choruses of Heh

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:53 pm

Bug: "Heh"

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:21 pm

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:33 pm

Need a point guard

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:37 pm

MrBug708 wrote:Need a point guard

Dude...

Bryce.

(Nepotism is undefeated)

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:49 pm

Plus Powell is the only scorer until IHam figures it out

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:13 am

MrBug708 wrote:Plus Powell is the only scorer until IHam figures it out

Like Bugt*ts always says, "Heh"

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:56 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Plus Powell is the only scorer until IHam figures it out
Like Bugt*ts always says, "Heh"

BC, are you Basnight's sock?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:23 am

Puerco wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Plus Powell is the only scorer until IHam figures it out
Like Bugt*ts always says, "Heh"

BC, are you Basnight's sock?

Nope. Bug's.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:56 pm

So apparently Bragg had three core classes flagged and isn't able to take visits right now while they clear things up. I guess delaying his visit really screwed up things

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:44 am

MrBug708 wrote:So apparently Bragg had three core classes flagged and isn't able to take visits right now while they clear things up. I guess delaying his visit really screwed up things

Heh.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:26 am

Dave Rice must he horrible because ucla blew out UNLV by 40 in a secret scrimmage

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:34 am

MrBug708 wrote:Dave Rice must he horrible because ucla blew out UNLV by 40 in a secret scrimmage

Probably means Alford doesn't understand the purpose of a scrimmage, probably treated it like a real game, lol. You're supposed to work on weak areas, put your players in tough situations, let the other team run on you, etc. Winning by 40 is actually losing by 40 in a secret scrimmage.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:48 pm

Bosy Billups wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Dave Rice must he horrible because ucla blew out UNLV by 40 in a secret scrimmage
Probably means Alford doesn't understand the purpose of a scrimmage, probably treated it like a real game, lol. You're supposed to work on weak areas, put your players in tough situations, let the other team run on you, etc. Winning by 40 is actually losing by 40 in a secret scrimmage.

That's a lot of insight into a game in which nobody knows what actually happened. I would guess PG play and chemistry are the two biggest things that need work on, along with defense.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:33 pm

UCLA hit 13 threes. Damn

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:24 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Dave Rice must he horrible because ucla blew out UNLV by 40 in a secret scrimmage
Probably means Alford doesn't understand the purpose of a scrimmage, probably treated it like a real game, lol. You're supposed to work on weak areas, put your players in tough situations, let the other team run on you, etc. Winning by 40 is actually losing by 40 in a secret scrimmage.
That's a lot of insight into a game in which nobody knows what actually happened. I would guess PG play and chemistry are the two biggest things that need work on, along with defense.

omg, heh

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:28 pm

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

Alright, Bug, hand 'em over.

Heh.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:55 pm

Couldnt possibly be me. Your narrative of my life story has me never attending UCLA

http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/2 ... la-laptops

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:47 am

MrBug708 wrote:Couldnt possibly be me. Your narrative of my life story has me never attending UCLA

http://www.dailynews.com/general-news/2 ... la-laptops

Heh. Just because you couldn't get in before doesn't mean you can't try again. There are terrific extension courses starting soon! I hear they're quite easy; no math involved. You'll be fine.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:46 pm

Hate to break up RC97's Hehfest, but former UCLA AD, Peter Dalis, passed away today at 79. Pretty polarizing figure in UCLA and PAC-12 athletics.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:34 pm

That sucks, RIP. Dan Guerrero is trying to take that title though. Heh.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:05 am

Bosy Billups wrote:That sucks, RIP. Dan Guerrero is trying to take that title though. Heh.

Heh.

RIP.

Heh.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:47 am

Beachcat97 wrote:http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

Alright, Bug, hand 'em over.

Heh.

That's why you always pay cash when buying burglary tools. Seems they found him more through his purchase history than eye witness statements.

CBCat · Post by **CBCat** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:25 pm

Who is this Welsh dude for ucla?

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:29 pm

Don Maclean: "Coastal Carolina not intimidated going into this environment."

Er, Don, no team has had a reason to be intimidated going into Pauley for a generation now.

SCCat · Post by **SCCat** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:42 pm

I know it's early, teams will change and gel and etc etc, but UCLA looks pretty pedestrian.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:48 pm

CSUN would be blowing them out.

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