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Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:09 pm
by UAEebs86
Salty wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:Everything I've seen retracts that and says that Barnes has been told to make changes but his job is safe.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... n-at-texas
Just heard Gottlieb say about an hour ago Barnes was gone.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:09 pm
by ASUHATER!
He's the most realistic and the best hire of the 10 or so names thrown around. Better than Capel. Asu wouldn't be a juggernaut but if he can get top 10 classes and tournament appearances to st. John's and sweet 16s to Ucla then he can get top 20 classes and regular tournament appearances at Asu.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:22 pm
by azcat34
Can't see ASU hiring a retread after firing Sendek.

Would imagine a young up and comer coach will get the job.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:28 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
azcat34 wrote:Can't see ASU hiring a retread after firing Sendek.

Would imagine a young up and comer coach will get the job.
I can't imagine a young up and comer coach would want the job.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:36 pm
by ASUHATER!
Asu is a place you can only get retreads. See sendek, frieder, evans

Pesci

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:39 pm
by UAEebs86
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Image

Re: Pesci

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:48 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
UAEebs86 wrote:You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Spaceman Spiff wrote: Image
It's basically impossible to find a normal looking picture of Donnie Tyndall. Try Google image search, they alp come out bizarre.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:00 pm
by azcat34
ASUHATER! wrote:Asu is a place you can only get retreads. See sendek, frieder, evans
If they could close the deal with Hurley I think that would be a great move.

Should avoid the Capel, Lavin types and go for the Underwood, Hurley, Michael White types.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:28 pm
by dirtbags
would love to see lavin back in the conf, even if he gets another studio analyst job with the pac-12 network

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:19 pm
by Irish27
I really don't understand the love for Lavin. I think that would be a bad hire for asu. They need to go with a young and hungry guy, Hurley would be a great hire.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:28 pm
by Coop Cat
I was listening to College Sports Radio this morning and they were talking about the Tyndall hire at UT last year. Apparently the UT athletic director did not talk to Tyndall or his agent about the job once until an hour before the hire was announced. That is good ADing!!

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:21 pm
by Main Event

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:45 pm
by Coop Cat

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:09 pm
by MrBug708
I'd like to withdraw my name for consideration for the Texas job.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:54 am
by dirtbags
if barnes is looking for another low expectation, cruise-along hc job maybe he should throw his name in the hat for the asu spot

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:04 pm
by az91
dirtbags wrote:if barnes is looking for another low expectation, cruise-along hc job maybe he should throw his name in the hat for the asu spot
That is a big step down from Texas, LOL.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:06 pm
by Main Event

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:10 pm
by Merkin
Main Event wrote:

That picture doesn't look like Chris Mullen.

EDIT: Looks like they fixed it

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:45 am
by azcat34

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:55 am
by Merkin

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:56 pm
by Coop Cat

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:38 pm
by azcat49
Will Book follow Mullin to St Johns? Marshall should wait on Texas as opposed to Bama IMO

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:45 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
azcat49 wrote:Will Book follow Mullin to St Johns? Marshall should wait on Texas as opposed to Bama IMO
I heard Avery Johnson's name associated with Texas. That actually might be ok for them.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:08 pm
by azcat34
Well this would move the needle:

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:16 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
azcat34 wrote:Well this would move the needle:
That would be very interesting.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:50 am
by Coop Cat
A source close to the Arizona State program told CBSSports.com that Jeff Capel's meeting with ASU officials on Monday "went well," and that the two sides plan to speak again. Still, a source said, it's unlikely anything will be finalized until Duke's season is completed.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... ve-meeting

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:58 am
by Coop Cat

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:01 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Coop Cat wrote:
A source close to the Arizona State program told CBSSports.com that Jeff Capel's meeting with ASU officials on Monday "went well," and that the two sides plan to speak again. Still, a source said, it's unlikely anything will be finalized until Duke's season is completed.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... ve-meeting
Please let this be true.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:02 am
by SCCats
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
azcat34 wrote:Well this would move the needle:
That would be very interesting.
That would be very interesting to see.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:10 am
by Spaceman Spiff
SCCats wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
azcat34 wrote:Well this would move the needle:
That would be very interesting.
That would be very interesting to see.
Shaka plus elite recruiting access would be a really dangerous combo. If he moves there and starts combining top classes...

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:44 am
by azcat34

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:59 am
by Merkin
Pitino Jr did get the Gophers to a school record 25 wins last year. Stumbled a bit this year.

Didn't realize Tubby never did it.

Heart CSM.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:50 pm
by SCCats
azcat34 wrote:
So 'Bama wants to throw around $3M+ a year for basketball and the name that comes up for them is Richard Pitino.

Let that sink in for a second.

Richard Pitino.

#knowyourplace #notabasketballschool #coachingsearchessuck

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:56 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Merkin wrote:Pitino Jr did get the Gophers to a school record 25 wins last year. Stumbled a bit this year.

Didn't realize Tubby never did it.

Heart CSM.
Did the year they made the Final Four under Clem Haskins get vacated? They had to have won more than 25 that year.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:05 pm
by azgreg
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Merkin wrote:Pitino Jr did get the Gophers to a school record 25 wins last year. Stumbled a bit this year.

Didn't realize Tubby never did it.

Heart CSM.
Did the year they made the Final Four under Clem Haskins get vacated? They had to have won more than 25 that year.
They went 31-4 that year but it was vacated. Before that their basketball history is bleak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_ ... basketball

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:48 pm
by Coop Cat

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:33 pm
by CalStateTempe
Not many high level BB coaches want to be at a football school

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:53 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
CalStateTempe wrote:Not many high level BB coaches want to be at a football school
Texas is a great job. Tons of resources, tons of in state recruits and far less pressure than other programs similarly situated because they are a football school.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:11 pm
by UAdevil
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Not many high level BB coaches want to be at a football school
Texas is a great job. Tons of resources, tons of in state recruits and far less pressure than other programs similarly situated because they are a football school.
Thing is: a lot of these big ego elite coaches NEED and want the pressure, and crazy expectations. The alpha coaches out there likely all think they can meet and exceed crazy expectations. Again...ego. :P

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:25 pm
by Salty
The whole "football vs basketball school" thing is overblown.

Think Billy Donovan or Thad Matta care that their university has strong support for the football program?

It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. A school like Texas has the resources to have an elite basketball and football program.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:26 pm
by Salty
Coop Cat wrote:
Virginia is a basketball school?

News to me.

I figured they just sucked in everything.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:29 pm
by UAEebs86
Ever heard of Ralph Sampson Salty?

Image

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:31 pm
by Salty
UAEebs86 wrote:Ever heard of Ralph Sampson Salty?

Image
Two Final Fours... Last one was 30+ years ago.

Yeah, basketball school for sure.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:12 pm
by CalStateTempe
Salty wrote:
Coop Cat wrote:
Virginia is a basketball school?

News to me.

I figured they just sucked in everything.
He's holding out for Duke or UNC.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:18 am
by azcat34
High Level 1 coaches have huge ego and don't like to be overshadowed.

Billy D is a horrible example because Florida hired him when he was 31 to run the program and he has learned to love it there. That is what big football schools need to do, established basketball coaches at basketball-first towns hardly ever leave to go to jobs in football dominated areas. Maybe times are changing and the SEC is going to put in big dollars towards basketball, but I will believe it when I see.

Matta is the rare exception, but he grew up in Ohio and this probably gives him the chance to coach in a familiar area.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:46 am
by Spaceman Spiff
UAdevil wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Not many high level BB coaches want to be at a football school
Texas is a great job. Tons of resources, tons of in state recruits and far less pressure than other programs similarly situated because they are a football school.
Thing is: a lot of these big ego elite coaches NEED and want the pressure, and crazy expectations. The alpha coaches out there likely all think they can meet and exceed crazy expectations. Again...ego. :P
Just because some coaches let ego overpower their brains doesn't mean Texas isn't a great job. That's all I'm saying. I don't doubt there are some massive egos involved.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:10 am
by dirtbags
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
UAdevil wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Not many high level BB coaches want to be at a football school
Texas is a great job. Tons of resources, tons of in state recruits and far less pressure than other programs similarly situated because they are a football school.
Thing is: a lot of these big ego elite coaches NEED and want the pressure, and crazy expectations. The alpha coaches out there likely all think they can meet and exceed crazy expectations. Again...ego. :P
Just because some coaches let ego overpower their brains doesn't mean Texas isn't a great job. That's all I'm saying. I don't doubt there are some massive egos involved.
right on, spiff. totally agree that's what makes the UT job great.

there's also a different type of big ego-ness in creating one's own program and history. big "football matters" type schools provides the resources to do so without the distractions. billy donovan is actually a good example. look what he's done at florida - he had the chance to work on the biggest stage, with the craziest fans and expectations at kentucky, but turned down the job to continue building his legacy at UF.

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:26 am
by Salty
If coaches have such huge egos, wouldn't that make them more motivate to turn their school in a basketball school, or a shared success school?

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:03 pm
by Coop Cat
Hearing VCU coach Shaka Smart continues to be the primary focus of the Texas basketball coaching search, according to two sources close to the situation, and that UT's search firm gauged the interest of Villanova coach Jay Wright as well as Boston Celtics coach Brad Stevens.

One source said Stevens respectfully declined UT's interest. Stevens' Celtics are in a battle for the No. 8 seed in the Eastern Conference, and the NBA regular season doesn't end until mid-April. Messages left for Wright at Villanova weren't immediately returned.

As of 4 pm CT Tuesday, a source close to the situation said Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall hadn't been contacted by any Texas intermediary. The source said Marshall had interest in hearing from Texas, but that it hadn't happened by late Tuesday morning.

HD reported Monday that Texas athletic director Steve Patterson didn't have Marshall among his top candidates because he didn't think Marshall would be a good fit at UT "personality wise."

Sources close to the situation said the knock on Marshall is that his personality might be a little too brash and hard to manage in Austin. Those sources said Patterson wants a coach who will provide an exciting, winning brand of basketball combined with a personality that will engage fans.

Another source said UT intermediaries reached out to former Spurs G and former Mavs coach Avery Johnson, the choice of UT booster Red McCombs, as well as former NBA coach John Lucas. But everything we're hearing right now continues to point to Shaka Smart as the front-runner.
http://texas.scout.com/story/1533496-la ... arch?s=110

Re: Coaching Searches 2015

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:15 pm
by azcat34
If they get Shaka, I obviously was completely wrong. I visited Austin for the first time last year and believe me I know it's awesome.

The only wild card in this is Texas leaks a ton of stuff to the media (Saban last year), and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this falls through. Shaka would be a fool to not even listen to them, considering he can probably get another huge raise and extend his contract to like 2030. It's already to 2023 or 2024 presently.

I've always thought Shaka would be the ideal fit for Louisville once Pitino leaves and not performing well at Texas could damage that. On top of the great job security at VCU, he can lose in the first or second round for a few years in a row and still be a hot commodity.

Once he goes to Texas with expectations the game totally changes.

I hope this happens, he would be my number one choice if Miller ever left Arizona and him in the Big 12 at a major school would be interesting to watch.