Coaching Searches 2016

Coop Cat · Post by **Coop Cat** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 3:49 pm

azcat49 wrote:That would be a decent hire by the rebs. Menzies is a solid recruiter and an OK tactition. I think that's a good fit

Menzies would walk from Las Cruces to Las Vegas for that job.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:26 pm

MrBug708 wrote:The rebs need to hire Randy Bennett

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:34 pm

Coop Cat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:That would be a decent hire by the rebs. Menzies is a solid recruiter and an OK tactition. I think that's a good fit
Menzies would walk from Las Cruces to Las Vegas for that job.

UNLV is a good job. It has a lot of recruiting resources, comparable to a good P5 school, but not that same level of pressure. If you can consistently make the tourney, you're safe.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:22 pm

Chicat wrote:UAB coach Jerod Haase to Stanford.

Hated that dude when he played for Kansas, so it will be nice to beat the crap out of him twice a year.

That 3-pointer he made with less than a minute left against the Cats in the Sweet 16 put Kansas in the lead and would win. I really believe if he misses that shot, the UofA wins and then beats Syracuse to get to the Final Four.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:16 am

Chicat wrote:
Merkin wrote:What a chump if true. Don't think Livengood would fuck up this bad.

Why would you ever admit that? Sure it makes Cronin look like a prick, but it makes her look like an incompetent idiot. Why would you let him get back on the plane without signing anything if you truly thought he had agreed to be your next coach?

It is a fair question, but it's not uncommon. Jack Hartman to UA BB in '82, Earle Bruce to UA FB way back when, and Rich Rod to ntUSC this season come to mind.

The answer is that most AD's are a lot shittier businessmen than you would think. Which also explains why they all sign up to ridiculously huge buyouts to protect coaches if they are fired, and get next to nothing if that same coach leaves the University high and dry for another job.

It's unbelievable.

uacat540 · Post by **uacat540** » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:57 am

scumdevils86 wrote:The way things are progressing in my personal life and job I can't imagine living anywhere other than Tucson in the near future. The exception would be Denver...but Denver is at least twice as expensive of a city to live in as Tucson so unless I get someone to pay me twice as much for the same job that isn't happening any time soon!

Only thing that costs more in Denver is housing. Left Tucson almost 3 years ago for Denver and it hasnt been that bad cost wise. I still miss Tucson almost every day but decent paying jobs (unless you are an engineer) are few and far between. Im glad i left but i will retire in Tucson some day but its nice that my family is still there. And its a short flight on Southwest anytime i get a hankering for Tucson mexican. I will say, the alumni base up here is growing quickly and super active. Seems like more and more people have abandoned the California dream for the Rockies.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:32 am

Haha, savage...

But seriously, I'm sure there were more than a few people at Vandy lining up to help Stallings pack up his shit...

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:11 am

http://www.scout.com/college/pittsburgh ... giant-turd" target="_blank

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:15 am

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:16 am

Irish27 wrote:

http://www.scout.com/college/pittsburgh ... giant-turd" target="_blank

That entire board is a rage fest.

On Jeter's twitter, a ton of Pitt fans are telling him to transfer.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:17 pm

Stallings has been a coach for 23 years at Illinois State and Vanderbilt. Hasn't won a conference title since 1998 at Illinois State. In 17 years at vandy he only had 7 tournament appearances and 6 winning conference records. Hasn't been past the first weekend since 2007. Only had two top 20-25 recruiting classes in the last decade+. Only been signed like 1-2 top 50 recruits in the last 5-6 years.

So he hasn't proven he can consistently win or go far in the tournament and can't really recruit too well.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:15 pm

Can you imagine thinking your getting Sean Miller and instead you get Kevin Stallings?

It'd be like ordering an 8 oz Kobe Beef filet and getting Hamburger Helper.

Lando05 · Post by **Lando05** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:29 pm

Chicat wrote:Can you imagine thinking your getting Sean Miller and instead you get Kevin Stallings?

It'd be like ordering an 8 oz Kobe Beef filet and getting Hamburger Helper.

az91 · Post by **az91** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:43 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:Stallings has been a coach for 23 years at Illinois State and Vanderbilt. Hasn't won a conference title since 1998 at Illinois State. In 17 years at vandy he only had 7 tournament appearances and 6 winning conference records. Hasn't been past the first weekend since 2007. Only had two top 20-25 recruiting classes in the last decade+. Only been signed like 1-2 top 50 recruits in the last 5-6 years.

So he hasn't proven he can consistently win or go far in the tournament and can't really recruit too well.

This hire is the definition of losing the press conference.

az91 · Post by **az91** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:59 pm

Catintheheat wrote:
SCCats wrote:I've always liked the idea of getting healthy at the expense of a conference rival so for me if I was UNC I'd take a hard look at Tony Bennett to go along with the look at Miller.
Or if CSM moves on the Cats could offer Tony Bennett. I am not overly concerned about the Arizona program in the long term. We are storied now, have the facilities, money, and overwhelming fan support. in other words a destination school.

Do not want!

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:52 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:21 am

Main Event wrote:

I'm surprised Menzies turned down the job.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:45 am

Chicat wrote:Can you imagine thinking your getting Sean Miller and instead you get Kevin Stallings?

It'd be like ordering an 8 oz Kobe Beef filet and getting Hamburger Helper.

Or like thinking you're getting Shaka and getting Alford?

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:25 pm

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:07 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Coop Cat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:That would be a decent hire by the rebs. Menzies is a solid recruiter and an OK tactition. I think that's a good fit
Menzies would walk from Las Cruces to Las Vegas for that job.
UNLV is a good job. It has a lot of recruiting resources, comparable to a good P5 school, but not that same level of pressure. If you can consistently make the tourney, you're safe.

Exactly what Steve Alford needs.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:20 pm

Main Event wrote:

That is a solid hire for Santa Clara.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:24 pm

84Cat wrote:
Main Event wrote:
That is a solid hire for Santa Clara.

Yep, he was a solid hire for ASU too. Don't think Hurley is going to do any better than Herbie.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:46 pm

CatsbyAZ wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Coop Cat wrote:
azcat49 wrote:That would be a decent hire by the rebs. Menzies is a solid recruiter and an OK tactition. I think that's a good fit
Menzies would walk from Las Cruces to Las Vegas for that job.
UNLV is a good job. It has a lot of recruiting resources, comparable to a good P5 school, but not that same level of pressure. If you can consistently make the tourney, you're safe.
Exactly what Steve Alford needs.

Need a Stallings type move here

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:19 pm

On Dan Patrick today they were saying that Roy Williams could retire if the Tar Heels win the championship this year. If Roy decides to retire Dan said he will pick the next coach to replace him. If this happens, I doubt he will pick Sean Miller.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:56 pm

Irish27 wrote:On Dan Patrick today they were saying that Roy Williams could retire if the Tar Heels win the championship this year. If Roy decides to retire Dan said he will pick the next coach to replace him. If this happens, I doubt he will pick Sean Miller.

Not so sure about the second part, but the first is what I'm deathly afraid of if UNC wins the chipper.

So,

Go Villanova.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:15 am

I think if UNC wins, Roy retires. He will ride off into the sunset before NCAA lays down sanction on UNC.

Irish27 · Post by **Irish27** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:50 am

If Roy retires he will probably take his time and announce it during the summer just to insure that he gets to pick his replacement. I don't think CSM and other coaches would leave the UofA with the upcoming season approaching and Roy knows that.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:28 am

So, briefly going back to UNLV, anyone else think Dave Rice's tenure should've gone much better? He recruited well, had them in the tournament his first two years, etc; UNLV should've gotten more out of him. (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because his teams always played so well vs UA.)

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:23 am

Irish27 wrote:If Roy retires he will probably take his time and announce it during the summer just to insure that he gets to pick his replacement. I don't think CSM and other coaches would leave the UofA with the upcoming season approaching and Roy knows that.

I doubt any top coach will seriously consider the UNC job unless and until the ominous NCAA cloud hanging over the entire athletic department has been clarified and lifted....

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:37 am

pc in NM wrote:
Irish27 wrote:If Roy retires he will probably take his time and announce it during the summer just to insure that he gets to pick his replacement. I don't think CSM and other coaches would leave the UofA with the upcoming season approaching and Roy knows that.
I doubt any top coach will seriously consider the UNC job unless and until the ominous NCAA cloud hanging over the entire athletic department has been clarified and lifted....

They will consider it. UNC is a top two job nationally. It might affect the class of coach they get, but every coach is going to see UNC as a destination job that they want to spend the rest of their career with (unless the NBA).

If UNC opens, every college with a well regarded coach is going to be worried. Maybe not Kentucky.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:47 pm

This is highly speculative, but I just saw a rumor that Thad Matta is leaving (voluntarily) tOSU.

az91 · Post by **az91** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:46 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:This is highly speculative, but I just saw a rumor that Thad Matta is leaving (voluntarily) tOSU.

I wonder if Archie would go there? If it was not really Matta's choice to leave, maybe Archie, or for that matter Shawn, would not go there out of respect for Matta.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:54 pm

OSU is one of the few 3-4 jobs I could see Miller leaving for.

az91 · Post by **az91** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:30 pm

I haven't seen one thing to substantiate the rumor that Matta is leaving. Besides, coaches seldom leave on their own unless it is for another job or health reasons. A number of players have decided to leave the program, though.

CatsbyAZ · Post by **CatsbyAZ** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:05 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:This is highly speculative, but I just saw a rumor that Thad Matta is leaving (voluntarily) tOSU.

Wow, another coach Lebron James gets canned.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:05 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:OSU is one of the few 3-4 jobs I could see Miller leaving for.

Depends on what Miller is staring at the following season. To sum it up he wouldn't leave for Ohio State after this year.

There's only 1 job to worry about unless things have gotten stale for Miller at AZ, which hasn't occurred yet obviously.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:07 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:OSU is one of the few 3-4 jobs I could see Miller leaving for.

Why would Sean take a step down to a football school? That would make no sense.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:33 pm

Catintheheat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:OSU is one of the few 3-4 jobs I could see Miller leaving for.
Why would Sean take a step down to a football school? That would make no sense.

$$$/one of the richest athletic departments in America, favor to his buddy Matta if he leaves, back east/closer to home than Duke or North Carolina, conference he could dominate more easily than the ACC, good recruiting base

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:38 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:OSU is one of the few 3-4 jobs I could see Miller leaving for.
Why would Sean take a step down to a football school? That would make no sense.
$$$/one of the richest athletic departments in America, favor to his buddy Matta if he leaves, back east/closer to home than Duke or North Carolina, conference he could dominate more easily than the ACC, good recruiting base

Why would Matta ask Sean to replace him as a favor? That literally makes not one iota of sense. Where and when have you ever heard of a coach asking another coach to replace him at neither of their alma maters to replace them? He already makes more than Matta, so you can throw $$$ out the window. He also has a much easier time of dominating this conference then he ever would the Big Ten.

It's North Carolina or nothing. Just stop.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:56 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:OSU is one of the few 3-4 jobs I could see Miller leaving for.
Why would Sean take a step down to a football school? That would make no sense.
$$$/one of the richest athletic departments in America, favor to his buddy Matta if he leaves, back east/closer to home than Duke or North Carolina, conference he could dominate more easily than the ACC, good recruiting base
Why would Matta ask Sean to replace him as a favor? That literally makes not one iota of sense. Where and when have you ever heard of a coach asking another coach to replace him at neither of their alma maters to replace them? He already makes more than Matta, so you can throw $$$ out the window. He also has a much easier time of dominating this conference then he ever would the Big Ten.

It's North Carolina or nothing. Just stop.

One of the silliest things I've ever read. They pay Matta what they do because they want to. OSU could pay Miller $12 million a year without blinking. Just stop.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:23 pm

Ohio State was one of the two or three schools 97 mentioned (along w UNC) a year or two ago.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:47 am

ASUHATER! wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:OSU is one of the few 3-4 jobs I could see Miller leaving for.
Why would Sean take a step down to a football school? That would make no sense.
$$$/one of the richest athletic departments in America, favor to his buddy Matta if he leaves, back east/closer to home than Duke or North Carolina, conference he could dominate more easily than the ACC, good recruiting base
Why would Matta ask Sean to replace him as a favor? That literally makes not one iota of sense. Where and when have you ever heard of a coach asking another coach to replace him at neither of their alma maters to replace them? He already makes more than Matta, so you can throw $$$ out the window. He also has a much easier time of dominating this conference then he ever would the Big Ten.

It's North Carolina or nothing. Just stop.
One of the silliest things I've ever read. They pay Matta what they do because they want to. OSU could pay Miller $12 million a year without blinking. Just stop.

I'm missing the point. He's paid more than enough and if money was his biggest motivator he'd be collecting $4 million a year from NC State already or at the very least would've used the Pitt rumors as leverage for a bump in pay, but instead he shut it all down himself ASAP. If anybody needs to stop it's you and your BS about how Matta would ask Miller to take over as a favor. What a joke.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:48 am

rgdeuce wrote:Ohio State was one of the two or three schools 97 mentioned (along w UNC) a year or two ago.

He backed off that more recently. UNC or bust.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:06 am

UNC, OSU, Kentucky or Duke or bust in that order actually.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:10 am

ASUHATER! wrote:UNC, OSU, Kentucky or Duke or bust in that order actually.

You know that how?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:17 am

Chicat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:UNC, OSU, Kentucky or Duke or bust in that order actually.
You know that how?

It's as over as Ray Smith's career.

Lando05 · Post by **Lando05** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:29 am

Unc or the Nba. Miller is not going to Osu.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:42 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Chicat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:UNC, OSU, Kentucky or Duke or bust in that order actually.
You know that how?
It's as over as Ray Smith's career.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:29 am

CatsbyAZ wrote:So, briefly going back to UNLV, anyone else think Dave Rice's tenure should've gone much better? He recruited well, had them in the tournament his first two years, etc; UNLV should've gotten more out of him. (I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because his teams always played so well vs UA.)

You can't get more out of a horrible coach. I mean, that's like saying Pastner will "turn it around" next year. No he won't.

az91 · Post by **az91** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:52 pm

Jason Terry interviewed for the UAB job, which opened up when Haase left for Stanford.

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