The Big 12 Thread

[dmjcat]

When has UA been top 25 competitive on a yearly basis? I must have missed it

Never, primarily because we have never had the funds to: 1) Hire and retain 1st rate coaches 2) Build 1st class facilities and now 3) Pay players (NIL)

[Chicat]

We have rich alums.

dmj is out here acting like every Arizona grad has a household income below the poverty line.

Elevating our NIL collectives won’t take a miracle. It will just take effort by the AD.

Actually, the UA doesn't have any Phil Knight type alums.

Very few schools do. Not a lot of guys walking around with $50B in their pockets.

But Arte Moreno and Woody Johnson probably have $10B. And it doesn’t take another forty to field a football team.

Like I said, we have rich alums. It will just take work. Like a concerted effort to show them why investing in UA Athletics would be a benefit to them.

[dmjcat]

We have rich alums.

dmj is out here acting like every Arizona grad has a household income below the poverty line.

Elevating our NIL collectives won’t take a miracle. It will just take effort by the AD.

Actually, the UA doesn't have any Phil Knight type alums.

Very few schools do. Not a lot of guys walking around with $50B in their pockets.

But Arte Moreno and Woody Johnson probably have $10B. And it doesn’t take another forty to field a football team.

Like I said, we have rich alums. It will just take work. Like a concerted effort to show them why investing in UA Athletics would be a benefit to them.

The reality is that multiple AD's and UA presidents have been unable to pry any significant $$$$$ out of those alumni over a very long period of time.

Perhaps you should apply for the UA AD job the next time there's a vacancy.

[Chicat]

We have rich alums.

dmj is out here acting like every Arizona grad has a household income below the poverty line.

Elevating our NIL collectives won’t take a miracle. It will just take effort by the AD.

Actually, the UA doesn't have any Phil Knight type alums.

Very few schools do. Not a lot of guys walking around with $50B in their pockets.

But Arte Moreno and Woody Johnson probably have $10B. And it doesn’t take another forty to field a football team.

Like I said, we have rich alums. It will just take work. Like a concerted effort to show them why investing in UA Athletics would be a benefit to them.

The reality is that multiple AD's and UA presidents have been unable to pry any significant $$$$$ out of those alumni over a very long period of time.

Perhaps you should apply for the UA AD job the next time there's a vacancy.

I’m about as likely to do that as you are to have a nuanced take.

Oh by the way, since what is now the Fuel Wonder campaign was launched about seven years ago the University has raised over $2BILLION towards its $3B goal.

You were saying something about not having wealthy alums?

[dmjcat]

We have rich alums.

dmj is out here acting like every Arizona grad has a household income below the poverty line.

Elevating our NIL collectives won’t take a miracle. It will just take effort by the AD.

Actually, the UA doesn't have any Phil Knight type alums.

Very few schools do. Not a lot of guys walking around with $50B in their pockets.

But Arte Moreno and Woody Johnson probably have $10B. And it doesn’t take another forty to field a football team.

Like I said, we have rich alums. It will just take work. Like a concerted effort to show them why investing in UA Athletics would be a benefit to them.

The reality is that multiple AD's and UA presidents have been unable to pry any significant $$$$$ out of those alumni over a very long period of time.

Perhaps you should apply for the UA AD job the next time there's a vacancy.

I’m about as likely to do that as you are to have a nuanced take.

Oh by the way, since what is now the Fuel Wonder campaign was launched about seven years ago the University has raised over $2BILLION towards its $3B goal.

You were saying something about not having wealthy alums?

There is a significant difference between the number of wealthy alums that will contribute to an academic focused fund raising campaign and the number that will contribute towards NIL. Talk about not having a "nuanced take"

[Chicat]

There is a significant difference between the number of wealthy alums that will contribute to an academic focused fund raising campaign and the number that will contribute towards NIL. Talk about not having a "nuanced take"

Aww, you used that laughing emoji like you made a good point. Adorable…

Just as an FYI, some of that $2B actually went to athletics, including $6.5M from Jim Click to fund adaptive athletics, a $4.5M donation from Doug Allred to the football & basketball programs, and the $6M anonymous gift that created the 5980 Fund.

It also includes $18M from Umberto Lopez for a variety of academic things. Do you know him? Jedd Fisch looked his son in the eye and lied to straight to his face as he was funding our football team NIL. And it includes a $10M gift from the Stevens family (of Lowell-Stevens fame).

So it’s almost as if with you bleating the same “we are too poor!” mantra across multiple threads that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about.

We have wealthy alumni.

We have wealthy alumni that care about sports.

We have wealthy alumni that have contributed to athletics in the past.

It will just take work to get them to contribute in the future.

[dmjcat]

There is a significant difference between the number of wealthy alums that will contribute to an academic focused fund raising campaign and the number that will contribute towards NIL. Talk about not having a "nuanced take"

Aww, you used that laughing emoji like you made a good point. Adorable…

Just as an FYI, some of that $2B actually went to athletics, including $6.5M from Jim Click to fund adaptive athletics, a $4.5M donation from Doug Allred to the football & basketball programs, and the $6M anonymous gift that created the 5980 Fund.

It also includes $18M from Umberto Lopez for a variety of academic things. Do you know him? Jedd Fisch looked his son in the eye and lied to straight to his face as he was funding our football team NIL. And it includes a $10M gift from the Stevens family (of Lowell-Stevens fame).

So it’s almost as if with you bleating the same “we are too poor!” mantra across multiple threads that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about.

We have wealthy alumni.

We have wealthy alumni that care about sports.

We have wealthy alumni that have contributed to athletics in the past.

It will just take work to get them to contribute in the future.

As usual, you overlook the obvious.

The UA athletic dept. has always had issues soliciting large sums of money from alumni, especially for football. As I already pointed out it took DECADES for the athletics department to obtain funding for a simple weight training facility. It is illogical to believe that the funding issue is suddenly going to go away when it hasn't for many, many years just because Chicat says it will.

[Chicat]

There is a significant difference between the number of wealthy alums that will contribute to an academic focused fund raising campaign and the number that will contribute towards NIL. Talk about not having a "nuanced take"

Aww, you used that laughing emoji like you made a good point. Adorable…

Just as an FYI, some of that $2B actually went to athletics, including $6.5M from Jim Click to fund adaptive athletics, a $4.5M donation from Doug Allred to the football & basketball programs, and the $6M anonymous gift that created the 5980 Fund.

It also includes $18M from Umberto Lopez for a variety of academic things. Do you know him? Jedd Fisch looked his son in the eye and lied to straight to his face as he was funding our football team NIL. And it includes a $10M gift from the Stevens family (of Lowell-Stevens fame).

So it’s almost as if with you bleating the same “we are too poor!” mantra across multiple threads that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about.

We have wealthy alumni.

We have wealthy alumni that care about sports.

We have wealthy alumni that have contributed to athletics in the past.

It will just take work to get them to contribute in the future.

As usual, you overlook the obvious.

The UA athletic dept. has always had issues soliciting large sums of money from alumni, especially for football. As I already pointed out it took DECADES for the athletics department to obtain funding for a simple weight training facility. It is illogical to believe that the funding issue is suddenly going to go away when it hasn't for many, many years just because Chicat says it will.

Did you skateboard a lot as a child without a helmet?

How many times did I say it will take work? In what universe is that “the funding issue is suddenly going to go away … just because Chicat says it will”??

If you’re not here to have a good faith conversation then you’re just here to bitch and moan and sorry I’m not here for it.

[dmjcat]

There is a significant difference between the number of wealthy alums that will contribute to an academic focused fund raising campaign and the number that will contribute towards NIL. Talk about not having a "nuanced take"

Aww, you used that laughing emoji like you made a good point. Adorable…

Just as an FYI, some of that $2B actually went to athletics, including $6.5M from Jim Click to fund adaptive athletics, a $4.5M donation from Doug Allred to the football & basketball programs, and the $6M anonymous gift that created the 5980 Fund.

It also includes $18M from Umberto Lopez for a variety of academic things. Do you know him? Jedd Fisch looked his son in the eye and lied to straight to his face as he was funding our football team NIL. And it includes a $10M gift from the Stevens family (of Lowell-Stevens fame).

So it’s almost as if with you bleating the same “we are too poor!” mantra across multiple threads that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about.

We have wealthy alumni.

We have wealthy alumni that care about sports.

We have wealthy alumni that have contributed to athletics in the past.

It will just take work to get them to contribute in the future.

As usual, you overlook the obvious.

The UA athletic dept. has always had issues soliciting large sums of money from alumni, especially for football. As I already pointed out it took DECADES for the athletics department to obtain funding for a simple weight training facility. It is illogical to believe that the funding issue is suddenly going to go away when it hasn't for many, many years just because Chicat says it will.

Did you skateboard a lot as a child without a helmet?

How many times did I say it will take work? In what universe is that “the funding is suddenly going to go away … just because Chicat says it will”??

If you’re not here to have a good faith conversation then you’re just here to bitch and moan and sorry I’m not here for it.

Did you skateboard a lot as a child without a helmet? No but you obviously did

How many times did I say it will take work? In what universe is that “the funding issue is suddenly going to go away … just because Chicat says it will”?? Just because you say "It will take work" doesn't mean it will come to fruition. As I accurately pointed out the UA athletic dept. has NEVER had much success extracting significant funds for football from wealthy donors..........the weight training facility being one of many examples.

If you’re not here to have a good faith conversation then you’re just here to bitch and moan and sorry I’m not here for it. Sure you are.........hence your comment about skateboarding

[Chicat]

If you’re not here to have a good faith conversation then you’re just here to bitch and moan and sorry I’m not here for it.

Sure you are.........

So you admit it. Right on, compadre. Unfortunately I’m all out of tissues.

[dmjcat]

If you’re not here to have a good faith conversation then you’re just here to bitch and moan and sorry I’m not here for it.

Sure you are.........

So you admit it. Right on, compadre. Unfortunately I’m all out of tissues.

Too bad, you need some to wipe your rear end from all of the shit-posting you engage in.

[dirtbags]

i thought jizzle james (cincy) might have the best name in the conference, but then i noticed that wvu has this dude on their wrestling team:

[84Cat]

ASU up 6 on the Jayhawks at the half in Lawrence. Still no Sanon. Is he injured?

[84Cat]

Lol

2nd half: KU: 24 ASU: 7

Bill must have given his team a tongue lashing

[UAEebs86]

Lol

2nd half: KU: 24 ASU: 7

Bill must have given his team a tongue lashing

ASU only scored 13 in the second half.

Good job, good effort!

[TheCat]

When has UA been top 25 competitive on a yearly basis? I must have missed it

Never, primarily because we have never had the funds to: 1) Hire and retain 1st rate coaches 2) Build 1st class facilities and now 3) Pay players (NIL)

In Basketball how about all but about 3 years in the last two-three decades.

[TheCat]

There is a significant difference between the number of wealthy alums that will contribute to an academic focused fund raising campaign and the number that will contribute towards NIL. Talk about not having a "nuanced take"

Aww, you used that laughing emoji like you made a good point. Adorable…

Just as an FYI, some of that $2B actually went to athletics, including $6.5M from Jim Click to fund adaptive athletics, a $4.5M donation from Doug Allred to the football & basketball programs, and the $6M anonymous gift that created the 5980 Fund.

It also includes $18M from Umberto Lopez for a variety of academic things. Do you know him? Jedd Fisch looked his son in the eye and lied to straight to his face as he was funding our football team NIL. And it includes a $10M gift from the Stevens family (of Lowell-Stevens fame).

So it’s almost as if with you bleating the same “we are too poor!” mantra across multiple threads that you don’t actually know what you’re talking about.

We have wealthy alumni.

We have wealthy alumni that care about sports.

We have wealthy alumni that have contributed to athletics in the past.

It will just take work to get them to contribute in the future.

As usual, you overlook the obvious.

The UA athletic dept. has always had issues soliciting large sums of money from alumni, especially for football. As I already pointed out it took DECADES for the athletics department to obtain funding for a simple weight training facility. It is illogical to believe that the funding issue is suddenly going to go away when it hasn't for many, many years just because Chicat says it will.

Did you skateboard a lot as a child without a helmet?

How many times did I say it will take work? In what universe is that “the funding is suddenly going to go away … just because Chicat says it will”??

If you’re not here to have a good faith conversation then you’re just here to bitch and moan and sorry I’m not here for it.

You guys talk about wealth donors but the U of A use to assigned a specific contact (attractive female) if you were even a very moderate donor for a wide variety of things. For example a bench outside one of the athletic sites cost $10K and it was said it would be well taken care of and athletes, students or fans could use it. That is what I bought many years ago. I have not given any donation of any kind for anything since Sean Miller was fired. This is before NIL and their collection for that.

My point is you don't have to be a millionaire to start to make a difference. Greg Byrne provided tickets behind the U of A bench at the Galen center (U of A lost) and actually came by to hob nob with what I assume were major donors. If you like what they are doing send them $100 at the end of the year. You can designate where it goes. Like a great tennis team and locking up their coach.

[Chicat]

Kansas is having all kinds of issues scoring against Cincy. Ugly ugly game.

Meanwhile I’m enjoying this ISU/TTech game. Our games against these teams are going to be great.

[84Cat]

Kansas is having all kinds of issues scoring against Cincy. Ugly ugly game.

Meanwhile I’m enjoying this ISU/TTech game. Our games against these teams are going to be great.

2nd game in a row that Kansas shut down their opponent in the 2nd half

[Chicat]

Kansas is having all kinds of issues scoring against Cincy. Ugly ugly game.

Meanwhile I’m enjoying this ISU/TTech game. Our games against these teams are going to be great.

2nd game in a row that Kansas shut down their opponent in the 2nd half

True, but I can’t imagine Bill Self is happy with what he saw this afternoon on the offensive end. No ball movement and a lot of bad shots.

[azcat49]

Is it me or does the league let Kansas play a lot more physical then other teams, mainly us

[84Cat]

TTU is bad at fts

[84Cat]

This going to the monitor on every call is getting old already

[azcat49]

Big win for the cyclones. Thought Tech had that one

[Chicat]

Dammit TTech….

[84Cat]

Well if TTU could hit free throws, they would have ended it in regulation. They were good for the game but missed the front end of a 1 and 1 to ice the game. Big win indeed for ISU.

[Chicat]

Oh god do I need to root for Kansas?





*vomits and dies*

[84Cat]

Oh god do I need to root for Kansas?





*vomits and dies*

And WVU

[gouacats]

Just beat 3 ranked teams in 4 games. Wouldn't even had that opportunity in the Pac.

[AZCatGirl]

Huge loss for ISU.

[AZCatGirl]

ISU/Kansas is a great game if you love turnovers. Each team has 10 and it's not quite halftime yet.

[Alieberman]

Iowa State is going to be a handful

[AZCatGirl]

Yeah, they made Kansas look awful. Going to be a very tough task to win in there.

[Merkin]

1 for 17 3 PT. Which means they will go 10-17 v. Arizona.


Javon Small scores 27 and West Virginia beats No. 2 Iowa State 64-57

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. -- — Javon Small scored 12 of his 27 points in the final two minutes to lead West Virginia to a 64-57 win over No. 2 Iowa State on Saturday night, ending the Cyclones' national-best 12-game winning streak.



https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... =401725674

[84Cat]

[Chicat]

Houston is mean.

[dovecanyoncat]

Sampson is scary.

[azcat49]

Is it just me or is this league a bit overrated? Two FF caliber teams in Houston and Iowa St.
Three sweet 16 level teams in us, Kansas and Texas Tech and then a bunch of teams fighting just to get in

West Virginia might fold if it doesn’t get the three injured players back soon. BYU and ASSU have been very inconsistent. Baylor and UCF look like they could sneak in but they have work to do. Everyone else is just fat for these teams to feast on.

The mantra as the best basketball conference doesn’t fit this year in my mind given what I have watched

[Chicat]

I think most people have the SEC pegged as the best conference this year.

[Fishclamps]

Yeah they are, although I think a certain number of SEC teams are getting a bump just because they're saying its the best conference.

[TheCat]

The SEC will be the best conference for the foreseeable future. Money for NIL is huge and it is covered by ESPN and they promote their product.

[Chicat]

Yeah they are, although I think a certain number of SEC teams are getting a bump just because they're saying its the best conference.

Their non-conference record was pretty spectacular. And the metrics of their top teams seem to support that it wasn’t a fluke.

[EastCoastCat]

They had to make up for their subpar Football performance. Lol.

The B1G and SEC are the big bananas for the foreseeable future.

[TheCat]

The SEC will be the best conference for the foreseeable future. Money for NIL is huge and it is covered by ESPN and they promote their product.

ESPN had a feature during game day. Said 13 SEC teams likely to make the tourney. Said one of the main drivers was NIL and it was reported each team has an average of 4-5 million. Also said this has caused an influx of high end coaches and no foreseeable end in sight. This is the new landscape with NIL.

Also had coach Pearl on he said you don't want 15 really good players. You want 6-7 good to great with experience backups that are older for the rest.

[TheCat]

Houston vs. Kansas should give us a good look at two of the top teams in the B-12. Games starts a 3 pacific.

[AZCatGirl]

Baylor and Utah in a close game at half.

Houston vs. Kansas should give us a good look at two of the top teams in the B-12. Games starts a 3 pacific.

3:30 pacific/4:30 Tucson, actually.

Hope Kansas is more prepared than they were for ISU.

[Alieberman]

Is ESPN right saying W Virginia is down at half 42-18 to Kansas State?!!!!!!

[84Cat]

Is ESPN right saying W Virginia is down at half 42-18 to Kansas State?!!!!!!

Yep. KU up on Houston 22-15

[U.P. Zona Fan]

We are def rooting for Houston right?

[84Cat]

We are def rooting for Houston right?

In league play, Houston is 7-0 while KU is 5-2. So maybe we want KU to win so we would be in a 3 way tie for 1st