UCLA Basketball in trouble!

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:04 pm

And their success appears to mirror our most rocky stretch as a program.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:14 pm

That 109 SOS really stands out

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:24 pm

Folks may be shoveling dirt on UCLA's grave a bit prematurely. If Alford figures out that he has players who won't (or can't) play man to man defense and shifts to something relatively simple, say a Match Up Zone defense, and sticks to it exclusively the rest of the year they could make some noise come March. I'm not convinced we would have won yesterday if Alford had the brains to throw a 2-3 zone at us the whole game.

prh · Post by **prh** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:25 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
prh wrote:So here's what I'm curious about. We provided a pretty good blueprint on beating UCLA. Let Ball get his but eliminate the easy shots for everyone else. Selectively crash the glass. Take easy baskets but slow it down otherwise.

Will other teams beat UCLA now? I feel like you still need the amount of talent that we have on our roster, and that UCLA will be able to outrun teams without that level of talent. What do you guys think?
Utah had the blueprint, they just didn't execute well

I didn't watch that game, would you say Utah has the athletes to run with you guys? They've lost a bunch from last year, but they do still have some nice players. They're actually the perfect example of my thought process-- a well coached team that should be able to game plan, but maybe doesn't quite have the horses.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:34 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Zero wrote:So Bug is gonna stick it out at TOS? How about riverside?
I didn't think so. Isn't he here? Riverside will go wherever Bug goes, so I imagine we'll have a lot more UCLA threads, and Arizona threads that become UCLA threads, in our very near future.

It's finally over. Going back to Goazcats, 13 years of anguish.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:25 pm

prh wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
prh wrote:So here's what I'm curious about. We provided a pretty good blueprint on beating UCLA. Let Ball get his but eliminate the easy shots for everyone else. Selectively crash the glass. Take easy baskets but slow it down otherwise.

Will other teams beat UCLA now? I feel like you still need the amount of talent that we have on our roster, and that UCLA will be able to outrun teams without that level of talent. What do you guys think?
Utah had the blueprint, they just didn't execute well
I didn't watch that game, would you say Utah has the athletes to run with you guys? They've lost a bunch from last year, but they do still have some nice players. They're actually the perfect example of my thought process-- a well coached team that should be able to game plan, but maybe doesn't quite have the horses.

They just couldn't hang because of the players. They are a well coached and disciplined team though.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:29 am

Re-watched the game last night. I think my favorite part of the broadcast was when Raftery was talking about asking Alford if he thought about changing Ball's shot and Alford just laughing in response.

"Hahahahahaha . . . . Me? Coach?? Teach??? . . . . HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:58 am

dmjcat wrote:Folks may be shoveling dirt on UCLA's grave a bit prematurely. If Alford figures out that he has players who won't (or can't) play man to man defense and shifts to something relatively simple, say a Match Up Zone defense, and sticks to it exclusively the rest of the year they could make some noise come March. I'm not convinced we would have won yesterday if Alford had the brains to throw a 2-3 zone at us the whole game.

That program is not concerned about that end of the floor. Ditching the M2M 19 games into the season for a zone is a band-aid on a broken leg.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:10 pm

Full game:

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:02 pm

Has this not been posted?

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:10 pm

I saw it. "Chugging beer keg"

prh · Post by **prh** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:09 pm

Reminds me of the good ole Zona Screw (isn't that what is was called before it got killed?). Anyways, while as inaccurate as most of these things, I did get a laugh out of the "human embodiment of caps lock"

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:28 pm

That's awesome. If I want to make fun of another school's students, I accuse them of not attending enough lectures.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:58 am

Braving traffic to head to galen center tonight.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:03 pm

First time it has been documented that a ucla fan has traveled for a game?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:46 pm

I'd be more likely to travel to a game in Thailand than face a weeknight game cross-town in Los Angeles. Enjoy it, Bug. I hope you guys win.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:36 pm

Longhorned wrote:I'd be more likely to travel to a game in Thailand than face a weeknight game cross-town in Los Angeles. Enjoy it, Bug. I hope you guys win.

Only traveling to the middle. Westside would be difficult to swing. Calling in some favors with the in-laws for babysitting duty.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:39 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
Longhorned wrote:I'd be more likely to travel to a game in Thailand than face a weeknight game cross-town in Los Angeles. Enjoy it, Bug. I hope you guys win.
Only traveling to the middle. Westside would be difficult to swing. Calling in some favors with the in-laws for babysitting duty.

I am curious to see if UCLA takes the "whole we got play better defense to heart."

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:41 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:First time it has been documented that a ucla fan has traveled for a game?

Always have a good number when they play in Tucson, so not a good joke.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:12 pm

PHXCATS wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:First time it has been documented that a ucla fan has traveled for a game?
Always have a good number when they play in Tucson, so not a good joke.

At this point, it's like watching trump without new talking points.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:24 pm

It's like people don't understand what sarcasm is anymore. It's like talking to Trump supporters.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:43 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:It's like people don't understand what sarcasm is anymore. It's like talking to Trump supporters.

Way to dissuade the notion that you can't come up with your own ideas

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:18 pm

Frybry02 wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
Longhorned wrote:I'd be more likely to travel to a game in Thailand than face a weeknight game cross-town in Los Angeles. Enjoy it, Bug. I hope you guys win.
Only traveling to the middle. Westside would be difficult to swing. Calling in some favors with the in-laws for babysitting duty.
I am curious to see if UCLA takes the "whole we got play better defense to heart."

If Alford loses his 4th in a row to SC...

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:21 pm

just a thought/question, is it too much to ask to keep politics in the politics area and the basketball in the basketball area?

if the answer is yes, its too much to ask, i will understand and respect the culture -- more than anything tho im curious how the moderators and rest of the community feel about this?

thx in advance

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:43 pm

Agreed

wyo-cat · Post by **wyo-cat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:54 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:It's like people don't understand what sarcasm is anymore. It's like talking to Trump supporters.

Find another word, like "mark" or "fool" for them. Keep it sports, but we'll still feel ya.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:57 pm

wyo-cat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:It's like people don't understand what sarcasm is anymore. It's like talking to Trump supporters.
Find another word, like "mark" or "fool" for them. Keep it sports, but we'll still feel ya.

They're all synonyms.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:04 pm

wyo-cat wrote:
ASUHATER! wrote:It's like people don't understand what sarcasm is anymore. It's like talking to Trump supporters.
Find another word, like "mark" or "fool" for them. Keep it sports, but we'll still feel ya.

Or "impudent" and "impulsive" and "reactive" and "abusive" and "mendacious" and "childish" and "unpresidential" -- we'll all get the reference to he whose name understandably makes too many people too sick to see in print.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:26 pm

ASUHATER! wrote:It's like people don't understand what sarcasm is anymore. It's like talking to Trump supporters.

So tired of your constant hate....back to ignore...good riddance.

EDIT: all you do is weaken and divide this board with this incessant political hatred which is way out of topic....congrats on helping to divide loyal UA fans who come here to discuss hoops topics.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:43 pm

97cats wrote:just a thought/question, is it too much to ask to keep politics in the politics area and the basketball in the basketball area?

if the answer is yes, its too much to ask, i will understand and respect the culture -- more than anything tho im curious how the moderators and rest of the community feel about this?

thx in advance

It's not too much to ask.

ASUHATER, please try to keep politics to the lower boards

Thank you

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:53 pm

Alieberman wrote:
97cats wrote:just a thought/question, is it too much to ask to keep politics in the politics area and the basketball in the basketball area?

if the answer is yes, its too much to ask, i will understand and respect the culture -- more than anything tho im curious how the moderators and rest of the community feel about this?

thx in advance
It's not too much to ask.

ASUHATER, please try to keep politics to the lower boards

Thank you

Thank you for your comments on this....for the first time since 2002 I was at my wits end and contemplated quitting this board over the constant political hatred, divisive comments, etc......I came back because I saw that it looked like rules were being enforced (i.e. cleaning up the 'f ASU' thread....smh....how a unifying thread like that could get derailed by stupid politics still amazes me.

How come we all can't be just UA hoops fans in these hoops threads? Tired of people with hidden agendas derailing/ distracting my loyal love of UA Hoops!

BTFD!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:04 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I came back because I saw that it looked like rules were being enforced (i.e. cleaning up the 'f ASU' thread....smh....how a unifying thread like that could get derailed by stupid politics still amazes me.

It does?! You were the one who made the first post that was completely political!

Everyone, keep politics in the politics forum. If you can't you'll be warned. If you continue you'll be temp banned. End of discussion.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:06 pm

Always fascinating that people like Bangkok exist. No self awareness.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:30 pm

Chicat wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I came back because I saw that it looked like rules were being enforced (i.e. cleaning up the 'f ASU' thread....smh....how a unifying thread like that could get derailed by stupid politics still amazes me.
It does?! You were the one who made the first post that was completely political!

Everyone, keep politics in the politics forum. If you can't you'll be warned. If you continue you'll be temp banned. End of discussion.

Sorry but I respectfully disagree....I reacted to bait. If I'm wrong and you can prove it, I'll gladly accept it. I abhore divisive crap and there's a really good reason that I've stayed out of the politics forum after my one or two posts a year ago?

Anyways, I will respectfully apologize for my part whether you believe me or not.....I'm old enough to know better....especially since I live in a country with very little real law and order and under military rule. It's refreshing to see that the rules will be enforced going forward as I DO REALIZE this board is a privilege for me and not a right.

Back to enjoying what could be a very special season.....Bear Down to all and again, sincere apologies for anyone I may have offended.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:57 pm

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
Chicat wrote:
Bangkok Wildcat wrote:I came back because I saw that it looked like rules were being enforced (i.e. cleaning up the 'f ASU' thread....smh....how a unifying thread like that could get derailed by stupid politics still amazes me.
It does?! You were the one who made the first post that was completely political!

Everyone, keep politics in the politics forum. If you can't you'll be warned. If you continue you'll be temp banned. End of discussion.
Sorry but I respectfully disagree....I reacted to bait. If I'm wrong and you can prove it, I'll gladly accept it.

Look at both "Fuck ASU" threads. You'll see the posts I had to move and the ones that stayed. Look at which post starts the one on the politics board. Annnnnnnnnddddd...... scene.

Now back to talking about UCLA.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:03 pm

Think UCLA loses tonight?

I kinda think they might not have recovered from this shit kicking we gave them.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:06 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Think UCLA loses tonight?

I kinda think they might not have recovered from this shit kicking we gave them.

I think USC has issues they won't be able to overcome tonight.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:28 pm

USC is on pace to score 80.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:42 pm

Longhorned wrote:USC is on pace to score 80.

Scratch that 90+

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:43 pm

Still going under screens

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:43 pm

Ucla has a whopper of a hangover from Saturday

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:52 pm

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:52 pm

Totally.

Regardless of if USC wins this or not, Miller wrote the book on beating this edition of UCLA and its on tape. UCLA is due for a few more losses this season, including the tourney.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:54 pm

Well the 1st half answered my question on the dedication to defense. Also, UCLA has 13 turnovers at half. Wow

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:56 pm

Ball isn't all that when the pressure is on.

MrBug708 · Post by **MrBug708** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:59 pm

CalStateTempe wrote:Ball isn't all that when the pressure is on.

It's koto so much that, it's nobody is open anymore. Someone said it best, lack of accountability spreads through a team.

Utah's game plan has caught on and Alford can't coach his way out

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:02 pm

To be honest, I haven't watched much Ball until this and the Arizona game.

He's good, don't get me wrong, he just hasn't met his hype, IMO. Granted its a n=2, but we'll see.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:03 pm

They do seem disinterested tonight

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:07 pm

MrBug708 wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:Ball isn't all that when the pressure is on.
It's koto so much that, it's nobody is open anymore. Someone said it best, lack of accountability spreads through a team.

Utah's game plan has caught on and Alford can't coach his way out

I feel bad you're witnessing it in person.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:10 pm

Bryce must be the third little pig tonight.

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