MrBug708 wrote:Wonder what Steve thinks about Ball putting his son ahead of the good of the team?
Well that's basically what Steve's done himself, right?
What can Steve say or do at this point?
Was moreso talking about Steve putting his son in games where he can't play defense, or offense.
Oh I know. He's lost any leverage he has. He's basically starting over next year with quite possibly just Thomas Welsh. The team is playing for themselves. The coach and his son believe he's an NBA player, you have a player who really hates the coach, you have two guys who are NBA lottery picks and trying to refine that part of their game but in an individual way, and you have a guy who is at the last part of his eligibility and is trying to show that he can have a role in the NBA. The coach can't do anything about it because he's allowed Bryce to manifest into what the team is and a lack of accountability has spread throughout the team. He can't sit Lonzo. He can't sit Leaf. He can only sit one of Holiday, IHam, and Bryce at any one time.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:29 pm
by Olsondogg
MrBug708 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:
MrBug708 wrote:Wonder what Steve thinks about Ball putting his son ahead of the good of the team?
Well that's basically what Steve's done himself, right?
What can Steve say or do at this point?
Was moreso talking about Steve putting his son in games where he can't play defense, or offense.
Oh I know. He's lost any leverage he has. He's basically starting over next year with quite possibly just Thomas Welsh. The team is playing for themselves. The coach and his son believe he's an NBA player, you have a player who really hates the coach, you have two guys who are NBA lottery picks and trying to refine that part of their game but in an individual way, and you have a guy who is at the last part of his eligibility and is trying to show that he can have a role in the NBA. The coach can't do anything about it because he's allowed Bryce to manifest into what the team is and a lack of accountability has spread throughout the team. He can't sit Lonzo. He can't sit Leaf. He can only sit one of Holiday, IHam, and Bryce at any one time.
So how are fans feeling? I know my friend, an alum was happy earlier in the year when things are going great I haven't had a chance to talk to him after the Arizona game ...are the fire Alford threads back elsewhere?
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:31 pm
by Olsondogg
Btw. In my opinion Holiday>>>>>>Alford. At least when he's not doing behind the back passes in the lane,down 10
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:35 pm
by BigSkyCatinMT
Speaking of Plashke, his tweets during the UCLA game - from how stunned Arizona is by UCLA's Athleticism??? Til reality set in.
He also mentions attendance. Amazing what Arizona can do for that.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:59 pm
by MrBug708
So how are fans feeling? I know my friend, an alum was happy earlier in the year when things are going great I haven't had a chance to talk to him after the Arizona game ...are the fire Alford threads back elsewhere?
I don't think they were truly gone, but winning quiets critics. 19-3 isn't anything to sneeze at but we are already out of the race in the PAC 12
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:03 pm
by Longhorned
MrBug708 wrote:19-3 isn't anything to sneeze at but we are already out of the race in the PAC 12
Says how many past conference seasons at this point in the race?
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:20 am
by gumby
MrMeow wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:
MrMeow wrote:
baconus66 wrote:"overated" is the worst chant in sports
According to L.A. times columnist, Bill Plaschke, it's, "U of A".
Can you please link to where he said/wrote this?
I don't know how to access it, but it was in his column right after we beat UCLA. Sunday's L.A. Times. I'm pretty sure it was Plaschke. It was definitely in that issue. Caught my attention because I love hearing that chant ... anywhere.
He also mentions attendance. Amazing what Arizona can do for that.
That attendance tweet is funny. He acts like it is the new year. That's a crowd they get for Arizona and no one else.
USC outdrew Arizona in Pauley last year.
By how much?
like 900 people
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:51 pm
by dirtbags
dunno if the conf title is out of reach for the bruins, but alfor could easiily atone by winning the pac-12 tourney and earning a nice seed. it'll piss me off if it happens, though the selection committee did reiterate that conf tournaments will carry the same weight as conf titles.
not sure if loball has tourney legs, tho. season weardown is taking its toll.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:55 pm
by MrBug708
dirtbags wrote:dunno if the conf title is out of reach for the bruins, but alfor could easiily atone by winning the pac-12 tourney and earning a nice seed. it'll piss me off if it happens, though the selection committee did reiterate that conf tournaments will carry the same weight as conf titles.
not sure if loball has tourney legs, tho. season weardown is taking its toll.
Not a chance this team can win 3 games in three days
So does that mean I could bet against UCLA winning and make $0.33 on the dollar? That would be pretty appealing.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:48 am
by Chicat
MrBug708 wrote:
dirtbags wrote:dunno if the conf title is out of reach for the bruins, but alfor could easiily atone by winning the pac-12 tourney and earning a nice seed. it'll piss me off if it happens, though the selection committee did reiterate that conf tournaments will carry the same weight as conf titles.
not sure if loball has tourney legs, tho. season weardown is taking its toll.
Not a chance this team can win 3 games in three days
I think there's definitely a chance. If the shooters are hot they can definitely take them to a title.
But if I was going to bet, since I like longshots, my money would be on Washington getting going at the right time, Fultz going HAM, them screwing over whoever is the PAC bubble team (Cal/Utah), and saving Romar's job.
I don't even really know what to say. That game bears no resemblance to the basketball I know.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:34 am
by Dave
On Saturday my son took 6 shots in a YMCA game and told me he felt like a ball hog. I wonder how he would feel taking 61 shots.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:27 am
by Merkin
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:55 am
by Spaceman Spiff
Dave wrote:On Saturday my son took 6 shots in a YMCA game and told me he felt like a ball hog. I wonder how he would feel taking 61 shots.
Kobe!
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:50 pm
by Jefe
He literally had 40 points off cherry picking and never got back on defense. Good coaching and another great recruit for Alford. He'll fit right in!
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:19 pm
by Merkin
Jefe wrote:He literally had 40 points off cherry picking and never got back on defense. Good coaching and another great recruit for Alford. He'll fit right in!
He'd get his ass kicked in rec ball doing that.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:26 pm
by CalStateTempe
Lol. What a loser.
Perfect for Alfred. Do not want.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:41 pm
by Olsondogg
I scored 96 points in pop-a-shot once.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:53 pm
by ASUHATER!
one time playing ncaa football 09 i played as #1 ohio state and i threw for like 800 yards and 12 tds in 1 game against the computer.
I don't even really know what to say. That game bears no resemblance to the basketball I know.
Absolutely. But that style has yielded one loss in the last 60 games so it's working on that level.
Yeah, I know. I've seen Chino Hills play. That whole jack half courters and cherry pick and leave your team to play 5 on 4 on D, that doesn't work half as well in college.
I don't even really know what to say. That game bears no resemblance to the basketball I know.
Absolutely. But that style has yielded one loss in the last 60 games so it's working on that level.
Cool story bro.
He doesn't even play like there is love for the game. He'll flame out in college.
Cool story bro? You're better than this. Lol
I do wonder re: brothers love of the game. We might have to wait for the tell all book after one of them kills their dad for talking one too many times.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:46 pm
by rgdeuce
Thats when u tell your biggest player to hang back and tell him to put his skinny ass on the floor
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:46 am
by MrBug708
I doubt somebody goes all John Cheney on another player
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:30 am
by Main Event
Do us a solid tonight Bug
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:18 pm
by SCCats
For real
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:14 pm
by CalStateTempe
Please. For once let ucla play a team as strong as they play Arizona.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:18 pm
by scumdevils86
CalStateTempe wrote:Please. For once let ucla play a team as strong as they play Arizona.
Pipe dream
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:02 pm
by PHXCATS
Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:49 pm
by MrBug708
PHXCATS wrote:Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.
It's a nice thing for fans to say. If ucla plays oregon like we played Arizona, we are gonna lose by double digits
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:52 pm
by Zero
I love that Oregon gets SC on the tail of the trip. That is gonna be a tough couple of games.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:24 pm
by rgdeuce
MrBug708 wrote:I doubt somebody goes all John Cheney on another player
For that, you'd be surprised. I played with several guys who would have take it upon themselves before the coach would have even had to ask. I'm more shocked it was allowed to happen to that degree and nothing was done
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:12 pm
by Longhorned
PHXCATS wrote:Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.
It goes back to the tail end of Howland and through Alford. It is just a joke, obviously, but you seriously don't identify with it? In an Arizona v. UCLA game, it's just, "Man, these guys are good, so well-coached, and really, really tough." And then you watch them two days later against ASU and they don't know how to take care of the ball, get out of the way on rebounds, enable every back door cut by ignoring defensive assignments, and lose by double digits. And then the same against Oregon State the following week. Then you play them in Vegas and it's all, "HE TOUCHED THE BALL! HE TOUCHED THE BALL!"
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:18 pm
by MrBug708
Oregon only showed up 45 minutes before the game started. Still waiting for ucla
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:39 pm
by SCCats
It's going to be pretty humorous when this UCLA team finishes 13-5 or 12-6 in conference
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:54 pm
by PHXCATS
Longhorned wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.
It goes back to the tail end of Howland and through Alford. It is just a joke, obviously, but you seriously don't identify with it? In an Arizona v. UCLA game, it's just, "Man, these guys are good, so well-coached, and really, really tough." And then you watch them two days later against ASU and they don't know how to take care of the ball, get out of the way on rebounds, enable every back door cut by ignoring defensive assignments, and lose by double digits. And then the same against Oregon State the following week. Then you play them in Vegas and it's all, "HE TOUCHED THE BALL! HE TOUCHED THE BALL!"
I really dont. And ucla was the 1 seed and UA was the 4 in that game.
Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble!
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:14 pm
by Longhorned
PHXCATS wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
PHXCATS wrote:Pretty sure UCLA played Oregon tough already. Really don't get this joke that UCLA only plays Arizona tough.
It goes back to the tail end of Howland and through Alford. It is just a joke, obviously, but you seriously don't identify with it? In an Arizona v. UCLA game, it's just, "Man, these guys are good, so well-coached, and really, really tough." And then you watch them two days later against ASU and they don't know how to take care of the ball, get out of the way on rebounds, enable every back door cut by ignoring defensive assignments, and lose by double digits. And then the same against Oregon State the following week. Then you play them in Vegas and it's all, "HE TOUCHED THE BALL! HE TOUCHED THE BALL!"
I really dont. And ucla was the 1 seed and UA was the 4 in that game.
Now just you hold on right there. Arizona was ranked higher than UCLA going into that game, had better wins, and the seed difference resulted from 1 game separation in conference. How did that come about? By beating Arizona twice. After beating us at McKale, they got blown out at ASU by 18 points. They beat us 3 times in 1 season, and then what? They got pummeled by Oregon the next game, and looked bad while getting eliminated. That's totally the pattern we're talking about.