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Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:06 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
dovecanyoncat wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:54 pm
azcat49 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:52 pm Great weekend when KU, Illinois and Wisconsin bite the big one
A Fuck You trifecta.
You forgot ohio state! Baby!!

Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:09 pm
by dovecanyoncat
U.P. Zona Fan wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:06 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:54 pm
azcat49 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:52 pm Great weekend when KU, Illinois and Wisconsin bite the big one
A Fuck You trifecta.
You forgot ohio state! Baby!!
There ya go. Add inn the Suckeyes and it's a Fuck You foursome!

Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:04 pm
by AZCatGirl
I bet fuegs will be using the same Seth Davis bullshit of "Kansas only lost so bad because they had COVID issues all year" when he shows his face around here again.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:44 pm
by enfuego
AZCatGirl wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:04 pm I bet fuegs will be using the same Seth Davis bullshit of "Kansas only lost so bad because they had COVID issues all year" when he shows his face around here again.
Not at all. We lost because we have no true PF or post depth and we lacked an impact point guard. We also, outside of Ochai, lack athleticism on the perimeter. Garrett played out of position all of the year. We bring in Curry, Clemence and Adams to help with post depth next year, but not sure any of them are immediate impact players, but all are a definite upgrade from having to rely on a SF to play PF or Mitch Lightfoot. We are all in on a couple of athletic guards including TyTy Washington (https://247sports.com/Player/TyTy-Washington-46057695/) to come in and play point guard.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:55 pm
by dovecanyoncat
enfuego wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:44 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:04 pm I bet fuegs will be using the same Seth Davis bullshit of "Kansas only lost so bad because they had COVID issues all year" when he shows his face around here again.
Not at all. We lost because we have no true PF or post depth and we lacked an impact point guard. We also, outside of Ochai, lack athleticism on the perimeter. Garrett played out of position all of the year. We bring in Curry, Clemence and Adams to help with post depth next year, but not sure any of them are immediate impact players, but all are a definite upgrade from having to rely on a SF to play PF or Mitch Lightfoot. We are all in on a couple of athletic guards including TyTy Washington (https://247sports.com/Player/TyTy-Washington-46057695/) to come in and play point guard.
By "We lost" you mean you got bitchslapped, dragged to the curb, and skullfucked into a bloody wretched pile.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:33 pm
by TheCat
enfuego wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:44 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:04 pm I bet fuegs will be using the same Seth Davis bullshit of "Kansas only lost so bad because they had COVID issues all year" when he shows his face around here again.
Not at all. We lost because we have no true PF or post depth and we lacked an impact point guard. We also, outside of Ochai, lack athleticism on the perimeter. Garrett played out of position all of the year. We bring in Curry, Clemence and Adams to help with post depth next year, but not sure any of them are immediate impact players, but all are a definite upgrade from having to rely on a SF to play PF or Mitch Lightfoot. We are all in on a couple of athletic guards including TyTy Washington (https://247sports.com/Player/TyTy-Washington-46057695/) to come in and play point guard.
Then how do you explain being in the top 10-15 all year? Maybe you are starting to see the fallout of the NCAA 5 level 1 violation and their 9 aggravators affecting your recruiting or maybe since Self is not resigned he is viewed as a potential lame duck. Personally I think he has coached his last game at Kansas.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:51 am
by enfuego
TheCat wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:33 pm
enfuego wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:44 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:04 pm I bet fuegs will be using the same Seth Davis bullshit of "Kansas only lost so bad because they had COVID issues all year" when he shows his face around here again.
Not at all. We lost because we have no true PF or post depth and we lacked an impact point guard. We also, outside of Ochai, lack athleticism on the perimeter. Garrett played out of position all of the year. We bring in Curry, Clemence and Adams to help with post depth next year, but not sure any of them are immediate impact players, but all are a definite upgrade from having to rely on a SF to play PF or Mitch Lightfoot. We are all in on a couple of athletic guards including TyTy Washington (https://247sports.com/Player/TyTy-Washington-46057695/) to come in and play point guard.
Then how do you explain being in the top 10-15 all year? Maybe you are starting to see the fallout of the NCAA 5 level 1 violation and their 9 aggravators affecting your recruiting on maybe since Self is not resigned he is viewed as a potential lame duck. Personally I think he has coached his last game at Kansas.
None of the allegations will stick, but guaranteed it is being used against us in recruiting. Self is going nowhere. And Kansas fell out of the top 25 this year (first time in 12 years). You probably don't pay too much attention to Kansas, but everything I said about our roster is true. Much like your roster this year is filled with anonymous players.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:27 pm
by pc in NM
enfuego wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:51 am
TheCat wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:33 pm
enfuego wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:44 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:04 pm I bet fuegs will be using the same Seth Davis bullshit of "Kansas only lost so bad because they had COVID issues all year" when he shows his face around here again.
Not at all. We lost because we have no true PF or post depth and we lacked an impact point guard. We also, outside of Ochai, lack athleticism on the perimeter. Garrett played out of position all of the year. We bring in Curry, Clemence and Adams to help with post depth next year, but not sure any of them are immediate impact players, but all are a definite upgrade from having to rely on a SF to play PF or Mitch Lightfoot. We are all in on a couple of athletic guards including TyTy Washington (https://247sports.com/Player/TyTy-Washington-46057695/) to come in and play point guard.
Then how do you explain being in the top 10-15 all year? Maybe you are starting to see the fallout of the NCAA 5 level 1 violation and their 9 aggravators affecting your recruiting on maybe since Self is not resigned he is viewed as a potential lame duck. Personally I think he has coached his last game at Kansas.
None of the allegations will stick, but guaranteed it is being used against us in recruiting. Self is going nowhere. And Kansas fell out of the top 25 this year (first time in 12 years). You probably don't pay too much attention to Kansas, but everything I said about our roster is true. Much like your roster this year is filled with anonymous players.
So, why does Self have a lame duck contract, if all your contentions are accurate?

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:25 pm
by TheCat
I will bet anything you want Fuegs that "none of the allegations will stick". Self and Townsen are on tape and quite frankly your previous track record with Preston and other recruits stinks and every one knows it.

Hey how is that Self lawsuit coming? Would love the discovery on that one. Like to hear Self under oath.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:22 pm
by enfuego
pc in NM wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:27 pm
enfuego wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:51 am
TheCat wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:33 pm
enfuego wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:44 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:04 pm I bet fuegs will be using the same Seth Davis bullshit of "Kansas only lost so bad because they had COVID issues all year" when he shows his face around here again.
Not at all. We lost because we have no true PF or post depth and we lacked an impact point guard. We also, outside of Ochai, lack athleticism on the perimeter. Garrett played out of position all of the year. We bring in Curry, Clemence and Adams to help with post depth next year, but not sure any of them are immediate impact players, but all are a definite upgrade from having to rely on a SF to play PF or Mitch Lightfoot. We are all in on a couple of athletic guards including TyTy Washington (https://247sports.com/Player/TyTy-Washington-46057695/) to come in and play point guard.
Then how do you explain being in the top 10-15 all year? Maybe you are starting to see the fallout of the NCAA 5 level 1 violation and their 9 aggravators affecting your recruiting on maybe since Self is not resigned he is viewed as a potential lame duck. Personally I think he has coached his last game at Kansas.
None of the allegations will stick, but guaranteed it is being used against us in recruiting. Self is going nowhere. And Kansas fell out of the top 25 this year (first time in 12 years). You probably don't pay too much attention to Kansas, but everything I said about our roster is true. Much like your roster this year is filled with anonymous players.
So, why does Self have a lame duck contract, if all your contentions are accurate?
You'll have to explain to me what a lame duck contract is.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:26 am
by azgreg

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:31 am
by 84Cat
Self has signed a lifetime contract with the Jayhawks. His current contract, which was set to expire next March, is being replaced with a new five-year rolling agreement that automatically adds one year at the conclusion of each season for the remainder of his career.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:38 am
by Spaceman Spiff
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Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:46 am
by EastCoastCat
Was that a Lifetime contract or a Lifetime sentence ?

;)

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:51 am
by gronk4heisman
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:46 am Was that a Lifetime contract or a Lifetime sentence ?

;)
This is why you should have an AD, and not a booster acting the role of an AD with no checks and balances.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:55 am
by dovecanyoncat
Does this mean I, as a Spurs fan, can stop praying to Satan to keep this shitstain away from my NBA team? I doubt it.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:05 am
by Spaceman Spiff
gronk4heisman wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:51 am
EastCoastCat wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:46 am Was that a Lifetime contract or a Lifetime sentence ?

;)
This is why you should have an AD, and not a booster acting the role of an AD with no checks and balances.
Whoa there. If KU's response to their NOA should tell you anything, they are VERY selective about who gets the title of booster.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:02 am
by TheCat
84Cat wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:31 am Self has signed a lifetime contract with the Jayhawks. His current contract, which was set to expire next March, is being replaced with a new five-year rolling agreement that automatically adds one year at the conclusion of each season for the remainder of his career.
I think that is what we are talking about. The end of his career. Having a rolling 5 year contract is fairly standard and means a five year buyout. Need to see the details to see what the buyout is. Also every contract contains a fire for cause clause that removes all liability from KU. What this means to me is that he has a new contract which is what we should be doing.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:12 pm
by TheCat
Two interesting things about Self's contract. The first is that he can not be fired for cause for any actions that occurred before the new contract. In other words he can't be fired for the allegations against him right now. Wonder why he insisted on that. LOL. The second is how Kansas cover itself.
"However, that stipulation doesn't unduly tie Kansas to Self financially. If the school fires Self without cause, he is due one year's compensation plus the amortized amount of the annual retention bonus dating from the date of the contract to the date of the termination. The buyout, then, could be anywhere between $5.41 million and $7.845 million.

That buyout number is significantly lower than public coaches of Sefl's stature. Kentucky would have owed $54 million to John Calipari if it fired him without cause by April 1 of this year. Fred Hoiberg's buyout number for the same date was $22 million. It was more than $16 million for Virginia's Tony Bennett, Oregon's Dana Altman, Texas A&M's Buzz Williams and Tennessee's Rick Barnes. Many others surpassed $10 million."

So they are standing behind Self for about 1/10 Kentucky is standing up for Cal or 1/2 of what Oregon is standing up for Dana. It should be noted that the contract with a automatic roll over is far from new. Izzo has a 7 year roll over and a huge number of coaches have 5.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:39 pm
by midnightx
TheCat wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:12 pm Two interesting things about Self's contract. The first is that he can not be fired for cause for any actions that occurred before the new contract. In other words he can't be fired for the allegations against him right now. Wonder why he insisted on that. LOL. The second is how Kansas cover itself.
"However, that stipulation doesn't unduly tie Kansas to Self financially. If the school fires Self without cause, he is due one year's compensation plus the amortized amount of the annual retention bonus dating from the date of the contract to the date of the termination. The buyout, then, could be anywhere between $5.41 million and $7.845 million.
That is their "out." They can still fire him "without cause," and essentially be hit with a pretty standard buyout in the $8 million range.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:46 pm
by enfuego
azgreg wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:26 am
Ah... this is a lame duck contract.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:22 pm
by TheCat
Glad you signed a guy that got beat by USC by 30. That would make you about 6th in the PAC. LOL. Contract for life is a 5 year roll over in Kansas world. Cal has a lifetime contract which includes after coaching at a $1M per year till he quits or dies. Now that is a lifetime contract. Kansas won't stand behind his 5 year show of cause he is about to receive. LOL

Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:04 pm
by azgreg

Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:06 pm
by 84Cat
Hey, maybe they can beat ASU now

Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:16 pm
by Chicat
If you thought Remy got his balls licked by the National media before...

Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 5:36 pm
by Alieberman
At least it's not going to be hard to continue to root against him

Re: Kansas

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 12:42 pm
by TheCat
Remy is now a Jayhawk......expected to be starting pg.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 4:11 pm
by EastCoastCat
I didn’t need another reason to hate Kansas but thanks Remy.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 9:15 pm
by AZCatGirl
EastCoastCat wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 4:11 pm I didn’t need another reason to hate Kansas but thanks Remy.
Can you really have too many reason to hate Kansas?

Re: Kansas

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 9:39 am
by Chicat
Hang tight...

Kansas's lone commit for 2022 is a kid named Gradey Dick???



AND NOBODY TOLD ME?????

Re: Kansas

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 10:54 am
by azgreg
Dick Gravy anybody?

Re: Kansas

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 12:17 pm
by Chicat
Grodey Dick ain’t getting the ladies on the road.

The Kansas girls are used to that though.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:57 pm
by enfuego
Chicat wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:39 am Hang tight...

Kansas's lone commit for 2022 is a kid named Gradey Dick???



AND NOBODY TOLD ME?????
#28 in his class (247) #18 (ESPN) #37 (Rivals). I was looking through the ranking services and didn't see any commits rated higher in 2022 for Arizona.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:07 pm
by Chicat
enfuego wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:57 pm
Chicat wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:39 am Hang tight...

Kansas's lone commit for 2022 is a kid named Gradey Dick???



AND NOBODY TOLD ME?????
#28 in his class (247) #18 (ESPN) #37 (Rivals). I was looking through the ranking services and didn't see any commits rated higher in 2022 for Arizona.
We also don’t have any kids committed who were named after an unwashed flaccid penis.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:50 pm
by TheCat
Nice. I love it when Kansas loses.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:08 pm
by UAEebs86
enfuego, pick up the white courtesy phone....

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:14 pm
by UAEebs86
This is so fucking beautiful:
(even with Dukie V)

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:19 pm
by 84Cat
Heh

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:20 pm
by azcat49
That is so beautiful. You know Dayton really has an underrated fan base. Good for them

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:57 pm
by dovecanyoncat
enfuego: "We didn't lose; we just ran out of clock."

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:53 pm
by wyo-cat
Dick Vitale used to coach at Dayton.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:55 pm
by UAEebs86
dovecanyoncat wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:57 pm enfuego: "We didn't lose; we just ran out of clock."
Technical victory is the enflamo term.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:03 pm
by YoDeFoe
Very much looking forward to this news in the spring: "Kansas receives 2-yr postseason ban, loses grip on Gradey Dick."

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:05 pm
by wyo-cat
When Vitale coached at UD, they had a Tartan court.

Anybody ever play on one? The ball made a weird sound when dribbled.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:17 pm
by dovecanyoncat
UAEebs86 wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:55 pm
dovecanyoncat wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:57 pm enfuego: "We didn't lose; we just ran out of clock."
Technical victory is the enflamo term.
I had already forgotten that, and that's unfair of me. Even a choad like enfuego deserves a marker we can remember him by.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:23 pm
by azgreg
He'll be here the minute Arizona stumbles.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:27 pm
by KaibabKat
wyo-cat wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:53 pm Dick Vitale used to coach at Dayton.
Detroit

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:29 pm
by KaibabKat
wyo-cat wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:05 pm When Vitale coached at UD, they had a Tartan court.

Anybody ever play on one? The ball made a weird sound when dribbled.
There was a Tartan surface when McKale first opened. Didn't last for long. Players hated it.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:04 pm
by TheCat
If you watch that final play if the Dayton guy would have missed it there was a Kansas player that hit the rim while the ball was bouncing around and should have been goaltending. The refs would never have the balls to call that against Kansas.

Re: Kansas

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:29 pm
by azcat49
So Kansas and Self is playing Iona and Pitino in the consolation game while Vitale announces the Dayton Belmont game for the championship of that ESPIN tourney. Seems like karma doesn’t it