Bear Down Wildcats

Merkin wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:

Merkin wrote:Miller was cleared by the FBI, and has full support of Heeke and Robbins.

The only matter is that the head coach is responsible for the actions of the assistant coaches due to NCAA rules, but only if Miller should have known.

Can you provide a link for this part?

Not going to look it up, but he was not implicated by the FBI, which I read to mean "cleared".

For one thing, he was not arrested.

The NCAA investigation is completely separate, and is more regarding institutional control. If the NCAA slaps a "show cause" on Miller, then that means he won't be coaching anywhere else either. The NCAA has no legal power whatsoever though, and cannot issue subpoenas or warrants.

Merkin wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:

Merkin wrote:Miller was cleared by the FBI, and has full support of Heeke and Robbins.

The only matter is that the head coach is responsible for the actions of the assistant coaches due to NCAA rules, but only if Miller should have known.

Can you provide a link for this part?

Not going to look it up, but he was not implicated by the FBI, which I read to mean "cleared".

For one thing, he was not arrested.

The NCAA investigation is completely separate, and is more regarding institutional control. If the NCAA slaps a "show cause" on Miller, then that means he won't be coaching anywhere else either. The NCAA has no legal power whatsoever though, and cannot issue subpoenas or warrants.

Merkin wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:

Merkin wrote:Miller was cleared by the FBI, and has full support of Heeke and Robbins.

The only matter is that the head coach is responsible for the actions of the assistant coaches due to NCAA rules, but only if Miller should have known.

Can you provide a link for this part?

Not going to look it up, but he was not implicated by the FBI, which I read to mean "cleared".

For one thing, he was not arrested.

The NCAA investigation is completely separate, and is more regarding institutional control. If the NCAA slaps a "show cause" on Miller, then that means he won't be coaching anywhere else either. The NCAA has no legal power whatsoever though, and cannot issue subpoenas or warrants.

Longhorned wrote:As a person who can post things online, I'd like to add to this thread's anti-Miller comments.

My nephew and I ran into Sean Miller at Rincon Market, and I sent the kid over to Miller, who wouldn't give my nephew even two seconds of his time after I stood at the fish counter watching them talk for five minutes and then I ran over and started telling Miller to vary up his defense.

Miller is guilty as sin, and he deserves all the blame for all the ways his program will be punished.

The answer to the problem? Miller needs to pick up the phone now and withdraw from all post-season tournaments this year. Better to make his players and fans suffer now than to bury his head in the sand like all of you.

I hate you. I really, really hate you. I hope you all fall into a trough urinal.

CatHoops wrote:Wed get Luke Walton if Sean left. Sean isn't leaving anytime soon

CalStateTempe wrote:Wow the hank in sb post was bananas!

First time in awhile that live laughed out load! In an elevator with people no less!

Don’t ever stop hank!

CalStateTempe wrote:Wow the hank in sb post was bananas!

First time in awhile that live laughed out load! In an elevator with people no less!

Don’t ever stop hank!

zonagrad wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:Wow the hank in sb post was bananas!

First time in awhile that live laughed out load! In an elevator with people no less!

Don’t ever stop hank!

Do I get any type of credit or an "attaboy" for flushing out the most moronic post of the year by Hank?

zonagrad wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:Wow the hank in sb post was bananas!

First time in awhile that live laughed out load! In an elevator with people no less!

Don’t ever stop hank!

Do I get any type of credit or an "attaboy" for flushing out the most moronic post of the year by Hank?

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

Merkin wrote:

Longhorned wrote:

TJATUA wrote:Just noticed that Amy Miller deleted her Twitter account. Any background info into this?

Just weeks away from allergies season.

Just advance notice. If this happens, and we lose Miller and get Pastner, it's highly likely I'll start calling out people who I think took Miller for granted and triggered this. The callouts are going to have so much profanity, I'll run out of cuss words and have to reuse multiple phrases about what a **** your mother is.

Hank of sb wrote:

zonagrad wrote:http://tucson.com/sports/greghansen/the ... 8abbb.html

Have a listen to this AZ Daily Star podcast discussing the possibility that Sean Miller leaves Arizona in light of the FBI investigation. Tons of negative speculation. My question is: if Miller is keen to leaving Tucson one step ahead of the NCAA & FBI, why would another school take a chance on him if he did something wrong? And if he didn't do anything wrong, why would Miller be looking to leave? What am I missing?

The overall theme of the discussion is that Miller is unhappy & the program is in a dark place with players not having fun. I don't see deeper meaning. I see a team that knows it is talented but is having trouble putting it all together. In a sense, you're only as strong as your weakest link. And from a personnel standpoint, defense is an issue primarily because of PJC & Dusan.

Maybe I'm being myopic but I see a super intense coach who wants it so bad for his program and his players. And he knows he has a flawed team that has some really talented players and he's trying to make it work.

What are you missing? You are missing a lot.

First, Sean Miller doesn't want it any differently ("so bad") than any other coach that has ever lived. So that says zero.

Second, Miller's flawed team is HIS doing. (See ANY of 97's posts.)

Third, Sean Miller likely is very unhappy. So are many (most?) of the fans. So are his bosses who are wondering what really went down. And he is unhappy because his program has been hit with a bomb. Bodies have been carried out of the wreckage and the program under his leadership will NEVER erase the scars.

All 100% Sean Miller's fault.

Deep down (or is it on the surface?) he knows this. Hence, he may think he has to go. SM is a good coach; he has a system; Pitt is the kind of place he can employ that system....and, more importantly, Pitt will take him.

For sure, SM may be thinking that it's time to go home and bring a championship there............down the road.

There are so many reasons this podcast's speculation makes sense. If Amy wants to go, then a move is in the cards.

Sometimes moving is the right decision. Sometimes 'running' might be best for everyone. Sometimes moving is the easiest way to find comfort.

That said, Heeke needs to know what SM is thinking, and NOW. Heeke needs the chance to react in the quickest way possible.

JMarkJohns wrote:Watch the name calling.

Also, to the snitch who ratted out the name calling, grow the fuck up. This is a message board for adults, sports fans, and, occasionally angry know it all fanatics.

Want a safe space, find a corner and repeat “Sticks and stones”

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

JMarkJohns wrote:Watch the name calling.

Also, to the snitch who ratted out the name calling, grow the fuck up. This is a message board for adults, sports fans, and, occasionally angry know it all fanatics.

Want a safe space, find a corner and repeat “Sticks and stones”

Is this about the comparison of Miller to Kevin Ollie? That's the biggest insult I've seen so far.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

JMarkJohns wrote:Watch the name calling.

Also, to the snitch who ratted out the name calling, grow the fuck up. This is a message board for adults, sports fans, and, occasionally angry know it all fanatics.

Want a safe space, find a corner and repeat “Sticks and stones”

Is this about the comparison of Miller to Kevin Ollie? That's the biggest insult I've seen so far.

dcZONAfan wrote:This is all amazing. I'd be willing to bet my life machina is the rat. He would get insulted by something like that. Hence, his little feud with Miller

Alieberman wrote:Hank has received a lot of crap here but has never complained to the mods about it.

97cats wrote:fuck all you ho's

EastCoastCat wrote:I love that CSM is putting the success of this team on Ayton's back. I know it's stating the obvious but the fact he recognizes how special a player he has and the fact he could carry this team to a Final Four is a smart move on his part.

He's probably come to a conclusion it's this teams best chance for success and even though he's a freshman he has seen enough to realize Ayton can handle it now.

We bash Miller all the time for his stubbornness on things like not using a zone defense but he deserves credit for going all in with DA carrying the load for this team this year.

EVCat wrote:One of the staff's best coaching jobs this season. Not saying others lacked, but the whole of the team was used. It's just hard to play against a 3 guard press when your 2 becomes your back up 1, and your other wings are not the strongest ball handlers/passers.

As much as PJC is flawed, he is required for us to win.

CalStateTempe wrote:I’m still laughing at LH’s “ Arizona won by pulling asu into the ditch and beating the shit out of them” comment this morning.

Longhorned wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:I’m still laughing at LH’s “ Arizona won by pulling asu into the ditch and beating the shit out of them” comment this morning.

It's all about rebounding. Arizona was in trouble because of turnovers, and the resulting ASU run that was snowballing (I think we got down by 7 points). Then Arizona took the game into the trenches and started clobbering ASU on the boards.

MountainCat wrote: I may be wrong, but I believe Ayton had only 1 rebound in the first half (maybe 2). If that was the case then he pulled 15 down in the second half alone.

dcZONAfan wrote:

MountainCat wrote: I may be wrong, but I believe Ayton had only 1 rebound in the first half (maybe 2). If that was the case then he pulled 15 down in the second half alone.

8 pts, 2 board at halftime

Longhorned wrote:

EVCat wrote:One of the staff's best coaching jobs this season. Not saying others lacked, but the whole of the team was used. It's just hard to play against a 3 guard press when your 2 becomes your back up 1, and your other wings are not the strongest ball handlers/passers.

As much as PJC is flawed, he is required for us to win.

And this is what people here have rightly said about Cartwright. Nobody said Trier should replace Cartwright at point guard. The argument was that, in games where Cartwright can't defend the point of attack (as when facing Holliday), Akot should get more minutes defending the point while Trier takes over ball handling duties as a necessary evil. But when you're facing teams that play small and can press (as in ASU), you absolutely need Cartwright to avoid what we saw in our opening-round game against Wichita State in 2016.

Arizona found a way to take back control of the game last night in spite of Cartwright's foul trouble, and that was amazing. But there's no way on earth you willingly bench Cartwright in a game against a guard-heavy lineup.

MountainCat wrote:

dcZONAfan wrote:

MountainCat wrote: I may be wrong, but I believe Ayton had only 1 rebound in the first half (maybe 2). If that was the case then he pulled 15 down in the second half alone.

8 pts, 2 board at halftime

So he had 17 points and 14 boards in the second half?

".... and with the 1st pick of the 2018 NBA draft........"

EVCat wrote:

Longhorned wrote:

EVCat wrote:One of the staff's best coaching jobs this season. Not saying others lacked, but the whole of the team was used. It's just hard to play against a 3 guard press when your 2 becomes your back up 1, and your other wings are not the strongest ball handlers/passers.

As much as PJC is flawed, he is required for us to win.

And this is what people here have rightly said about Cartwright. Nobody said Trier should replace Cartwright at point guard. The argument was that, in games where Cartwright can't defend the point of attack (as when facing Holliday), Akot should get more minutes defending the point while Trier takes over ball handling duties as a necessary evil. But when you're facing teams that play small and can press (as in ASU), you absolutely need Cartwright to avoid what we saw in our opening-round game against Wichita State in 2016.

Arizona found a way to take back control of the game last night in spite of Cartwright's foul trouble, and that was amazing. But there's no way on earth you willingly bench Cartwright in a game against a guard-heavy lineup.

I never disputed that take. In fact, I am in favor of minutes with Trier/Alkins/Akot/Ristic/Ayton in certain situations. Have said as much. But against their guard press, we needed PJC.

That's the point...we can't not have him available. We can try other lineups set to matchups, but we need PJC available. Last night he wasn't, they pounced, and our lack of solid passing/ball handling wings that are battle tested cost us with Trier at the point.

CalStateTempe wrote:What I’m going to say is not a knock,

If we can get trier and Anton playing like they have been for two full half’s and PJC stays out of foul trouble....look out.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

EastCoastCat wrote:I love that CSM is putting the success of this team on Ayton's back. I know it's stating the obvious but the fact he recognizes how special a player he has and the fact he could carry this team to a Final Four is a smart move on his part.

He's probably come to a conclusion it's this teams best chance for success and even though he's a freshman he has seen enough to realize Ayton can handle it now.

We bash Miller all the time for his stubbornness on things like not using a zone defense but he deserves credit for going all in with DA carrying the load for this team this year.

I think some of it is designed to pull the best out of Ayton. Ayton's best games have been in big ones where we needed him to bring it. Putting him in the mindset of a catalyst (hopefully) brings out that competitive response all the time.

NYCat wrote: