Kansas

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:56 pm

Chicat wrote:
Olsondogg wrote:
Chicat wrote:I have to give Kansas a lot of credit . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . at least their coach didn't get orca fat like WVU's coach did.
Yet
Good call.

I still can't get the pic of him in those assless chaps out of my head....from a few years back, lol....

salim'sheadband · Post by **salim'sheadband** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:15 pm

Good showing by the second-best team in Kansas, coming back at home against a West Virginia team without its best player, Juwan Staten.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:23 pm

That's how champions roll. Without two cornerstones of their rotation (Ellis and Alexander) we just win.

West Virginia would finish 3rd in the Pac12.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:37 pm

Comes to crow less than 2 hours after a win.
Slinks back 4 days after a loss.

I'm no mathematician but there seems to be a slight disparity there.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:18 am

Feels like Arizona is on a different level than Kansas right now, it's not even that fun, kind of like going toe to toe with UCLA.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:26 am

enfuego wrote:That's how champions roll. Without two cornerstones of their rotation (Ellis and Alexander) we just win.

West Virginia would finish 3rd in the Pac12.

Alexander is a cornerstone of your rotation? God, you must really miss Danny Manning's player development skills.

Post by **UAdevil** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:51 am

enfuego wrote:That's how champions roll. Without two cornerstones of their rotation (Ellis and Alexander) we just win.

West Virginia would finish 3rd in the Pac12.

Nope. Technical loss.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:00 am

UAdevil wrote:
enfuego wrote:That's how champions roll. Without two cornerstones of their rotation (Ellis and Alexander) we just win.

West Virginia would finish 3rd in the Pac12.
Nope. Technical loss.

Another L in Kansas's record. Expect the committee to view it as such.

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:07 am

Honest question here - how streaky is Kansas in-game this year??

They were down 18 at home last night? Won in OT

They were blowing out Utah earlier this year - maybe up 20? I'm not exactly sure, but then barely won. Get blown out by Kentucky & Temple - def shouldn't have been blown out in one of those games. I feel like there are even more examples but I'm not going to go dig them up.

Talk about a contrast to our team. Self & Miller could not be more fundamentally different as coaches.

Is Kansas always like this with the huge runs both ways? Or is this specific to this year.

Olsondogg · Post by **Olsondogg** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:21 am

West Virginia would probably finish 3rd in the PAC. What's the point of that comment?

I'd probably not be running my mouth about KU this year...just my personal opinion. I think the addition of another year on the Big XII banner will be the highlight of this year for KU.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:25 pm

enfuego wrote:That's how champions roll. Without two cornerstones of their rotation (Ellis and Alexander) we just win.

West Virginia would finish 3rd in the Pac12.

Olsondogg wrote:West Virginia would probably finish 3rd in the PAC. What's the point of that comment?

i think it means that oregon, the third best team in the pac, would give ku all they could handle on the road at afh

azcat34 · Post by **azcat34** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:30 pm

enfuego wrote:That's how champions roll. Without two cornerstones of their rotation (Ellis and Alexander) we just win.

West Virginia would finish 3rd in the Pac12.

Neither did WVU's starting backcourt

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:12 pm

Don't be logical.

salim'sheadband · Post by **salim'sheadband** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:22 pm

Meanwhile, Thomas Robinson, pinnacle of Self's big-man coaching, is now on his fifth team in four years. Here are some relevant comments about his ability:

Well, his skill set doesn't match what any NBA team wants to do offensively. Can't dribble, can't shoot, can't post up.

He's basically a little poorer man's Kenneth faried or however you spell that. He needs to get some real post moves and be a consistent offensive threat if he ever wants starting playing time. His points are usually opportunistic and unreliable

However, Robinson definitely has thorns. His post game is ugly, as is his mid-range shot, where he is shooting 31.8 percent this season, per Basketball-Reference. He’s foul-prone, averaging five per-36 minutes, and almost equally turnover prone, especially in the post. He hasn’t really made any huge jumps defensively, either. And that’s before we get to the questions about how seriously Robinson takes the NBA.

He's averaging 4 and 4 and, fittingly, has started 4 games in his career. Oh, and if anyone's curious how Miller's big men are doing in the NBA:

Derrick Williams: 8 and 4 (86 games started)
Solomon Hill: 9 and 4 (55 games started)

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:27 pm

Oops:

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:58 pm

Cliff who?

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:15 pm

California would win the Big 12.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:24 pm

84Cat wrote:Oops:

That's crazy, I would never have guessed, these clowns look fresh out of church:

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:45 am

Bosy Billups wrote:
84Cat wrote:Oops:

That's crazy, I would never have guessed, these clowns look fresh out of church:

I'll admit. That made me laugh. I'm glad Arizona has Tarczewski.

az91 · Post by **az91** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:43 pm

84Cat wrote:Oops:

Wow, maybe Illinois dodged a bullet?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:04 pm

az91 wrote:
84Cat wrote:Oops:

Wow, maybe Illinois dodged a bullet?

Okay, that's a fine observation. Still, fuck Illinois.

etank34 · Post by **etank34** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:13 pm

Papa wiping the boog on his shirt is classic.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:14 pm

etank34 wrote:Papa wiping the boog on his shirt is classic.

I like the "We gettin' PAID!!!" arms raised in triumph.

Post by **UAdevil** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:27 pm

Ku. 7 losses. Lol! 3 seed at best

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:28 pm

oh hi, kansas. what's up?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:29 pm

3 seed at best

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:38 pm

Nice to see Kansas isn't worth a court storming

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:42 pm

Technical win.

cats101 · Post by **cats101** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:51 pm

Lol so which 14 seed will the Chicken hawks lose to this year?

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:03 pm

Chicat wrote:I like the "We gettin' PAID!!!" arms raised in triumph.

he must've learned it from cliff's mom. OHHHHHHhhhhhhh!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:11 pm

Oh, did Kansas lose? Cool...

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:19 pm

Oklahoma would win the NBA.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:20 pm

illinois state would win the big 12

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:38 pm

Technical win for Kansas, technical loss for Arizona. That's how the committee will view it.

salim'sheadband · Post by **salim'sheadband** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:23 pm

I see Alexander and Ellis didn't play. That's what happens when you cheat. And when you're 50.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:29 pm

Another quality loss.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:34 pm

Their RPI ranking shows the flaw in that metric. It's all well and good to play a ton of great teams, but the "#2" team in the country should have beaten more than a handful of them.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:46 pm

Chicat wrote:Their RPI ranking shows the flaw in that metric. It's all well and good to play a ton of great teams, but the "#2" team in the country should have beaten more than a handful of them.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... s-jayhawks

Looking at who they beat, where they beat them and and when they beat them (at least as far as ranked teams go), I would probably rank them around #15 in the country. For someone to make the argument they are the #2 team in the country (and I know that's where RPI has them) feels pretty insane.

I'll go a little further: as a 3 seed they're probably overrated. Four is probably more appropriate so you don't get an unbalanced bracket.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:55 pm

I'm trying to figure out how they would win the PAC-12 like the mighty enflamo said. They would lose at Arizona just like the last 38 teams, and at Utah (only won by 3 on a "neutral" court). Both are higher in almost every metric ( Sagarin, BPI, and Kenpom)

Apparently they would sweep their other 16 games and be co-champs with UofA.

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:04 pm

Unbiased opinion... OU would win the Pac-12.

Are you all really criticizing Kansas when two starters and a rotation player (on the road) didn't play and another starter is playing on a bad ankle and we lost on a tip in with 0.02 seconds left on the clock to a top 20 team? Fyi - Arizona has only played one team in the top 25 since the beginning of Pac-12 play.

Let that sink in....

Let that sink in...

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:10 pm

enfuego wrote:Unbiased opinion... OU would win the Pac-12.

4 seed

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:17 pm

Whoever beats Kansas <insert team here> would win the PAC-12. Unless it's Stanford.

#enfuegologic

Nothing you post is unbiased. With RockyRaccoon gone you are back to being the dumbest poster and biggest troll. Congrats fuegs!

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:22 pm

UAEebs86 wrote:Whoever beats Kansas <insert team here> would win the PAC-12. Unless it's Stanford.

#enfuegologic

Nothing you post is unbiased. With RockyRaccoon gone you are back to being the dumbest poster and biggest troll. Congrats fuegs!

Not true. I said Texas and K-State would place third in the Pac-12.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:24 pm

enfuego wrote:
Not true. I said Texas and K-State would place third in the Pac-12.

So just for fun, what seed will Kansas get in the tourney?

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:42 pm

enfuego wrote:
UAEebs86 wrote:Whoever beats Kansas <insert team here> would win the PAC-12. Unless it's Stanford.

#enfuegologic

Nothing you post is unbiased. With RockyRaccoon gone you are back to being the dumbest poster and biggest troll. Congrats fuegs!
Not true. I said Texas and K-State would place third in the Pac-12.

Kansas would be fighting asu for 5th in the Pac 12

enfuego · Post by **enfuego** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:57 pm

SCCats wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Not true. I said Texas and K-State would place third in the Pac-12.
So just for fun, what seed will Kansas get in the tourney?

A 2 seed.

And we'd be fighting for first in the Pac12 and would probably sweep Arizona.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:01 am

It is weird enfuego gets so much pleasure from saying the same troll message that he doesn't even mean over and over again. For a decade.

I really think Kansas is below Oregon and Utah in the Pac. Maybe on ucla's level.

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:16 am

enfuego wrote:
SCCats wrote:
enfuego wrote:
Not true. I said Texas and K-State would place third in the Pac-12.
So just for fun, what seed will Kansas get in the tourney?
A 2 seed.

Good. I assume you'd be willing to bet on that?

Post here before the end of Monday 3/09/15 if you accept. You take Kansas as a 2 or better, I take Kansas as a 3 or worse. You bet you will never come back here again (site ban). I bet $100.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:49 am

Sweep?

Arizona beat far better teams than Kansas going back its last 38 home games, dufus.

OU wouldn't do jack sh*t in the Pac-12 except finish third at best btw.

Let that sink in...

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:57 am

catgrad97 wrote:How about a side bet that a seven-loss team isn't getting a 2 seed.

Of course for Kansas that's the bet I'm proposing. But Enfuego will say he didn't come back today or tomorrow or whatever other day he needs to say to not technically be a part of the bet because he knows what will happen.

The important lesson here actually is for the lower boards: when you know what a person's disposition is, when you know what a nation is going to do, you can use that against them. Here, there, wherever: I know what your disposition is, and I can use it against you to trap you. To put you in an untenable place.

Here Enfuego will NEVER respond to my bet. He can't; he's in a lose/lose spot. And what's the worse case for me? I lose $100?

I've won before he's even responded because I've trapped him into saying Kansas is a 2 seed.

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