Bear Down Wildcats

Postmaster wrote:I don't see book having reason to be the leak. He has to worry about fbi and they have the tapes.
He would only be hurting miller via ncaa and that doesn't do anything for him.

Also, I'm not sure book would have access or knowledge of tapes of Dawkins and miller because they don't pertain to Book


Those emails really only show that ASM claimed they could get Bowen to go to whichever school as long as that school delivered clients (players) to them.
Also sounds like Pasternack told Dawkins that he could secure lauri going to ASM just so ASM /Dawkins would send Bowen to AZ.

"Stories sourced to people “familiar with the investigation” or “familiar with the matter” should be presumed to come from attorneys in private practice—or the clients themselves—unless there is some specific reason to believe they came from the prosecutors or the investigative side."

I listed several reasons why I think Book may have leaked this...there is no way in hell he coaches again...he will never work for the UA again, his relationship with Miller is probably over as well, it is clear by what information we do have that Book was trying to pony up and deliver recruits and players this is the person Book see's himself as...there has been a lot of talk about how Book helped recruiting...and the leaked information completely misses the timeline of Aytons commitment...someone made that shit up.

It was either Dawkins, his lawyer or Book and his lawyer, no one else has even slight motive to create such a story.

My money is on Book, as much as guys loved him he obviously has a broken part to his character, fuck he hung out and leaked shit to ACE that alone brings his entire ethics into question in my estimation...we KNOW he was leaking stuff about recruits to ACE and got reprimanded for it...leaks are in his blood.

I know a lot of guys like him but he fucked out program for his own pocket, that is undeniable and inexcusable...

Not sure how a mole could continue as HC, especially if the NCAA makes marginal changes, i.e., does not overhaul the recruiting process or address the elephant in the room. It's very possible Miller worked with the FBI (and therefore wasn't named in the complaint and wasn't charged) but he must have been dirty at the outset to get swept up in this. There have been no retractions from ESPN; Schlabach just misspoke.

CatFanOneMil wrote:One of the things that we should consider in this motherfucking monkey circus is that BOOK might be the source for the leaks...

~ He has motive (incriminate others, point the blame higher up)
~ He fits Schlamamamabacks description as to someone who would have access to FBI wiretaps
~ He is not in jail it helps his case to muddy the jury pool
~ He is pleading "Not guilty" no way to do that unless he's "just following orders" ie: Miller was in charge
~ He's that dumb and has nothing to lose for lying, he won't be in anymore trouble than he already is.
~ This was the perfect moment to join into the fray right after the Yahoo dump and big Pac 12 ESPN game
~ No way ANY sports writer does not run with this story simply redacting his name as the source.

Regardless FUCK Book.

It's not Book.

So do we think miller attends the weekly press conference today? With this being the out front news (Miller) are we working on Zo? Miller thought it would be a quick decision and then all hell broke loae

The FBI has 3000 hours if phone calls. That is equal go what the average American works in a year and a half. I know agents are always on the phone but that seems like it would be longer than Feb 2017 to Sep 2017

PHXCATS wrote:The FBI has 3000 hours if phone calls. That is equal go what the average American works in a year and a half. I know agents are always on the phone but that seems like it would be longer than Feb 2017 to Sep 2017

Not really all that much when it's all the people arrested and whoever they spoke to

CatHoops wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:The FBI has 3000 hours if phone calls. That is equal go what the average American works in a year and a half. I know agents are always on the phone but that seems like it would be longer than Feb 2017 to Sep 2017

Not really all that much when it's all the people arrested and whoever they spoke to

Sorry I was not clear here. If it is just Dawkins or Dawkins and Andy Miller I feel like it has to go back beyond Feb 2017. If there are 3 or so more people tapped then Feb 2017 to Sep 2017 getting 3000 hours in that frame makes sense. If it is 5 or so people then I feel more comfortable

If this was before the Book stuff...

If the FBI had anything at all on Miller....

Why was Book dragged away by the FBI when they had the big fish in Miller?

This is all bullshit

Quiet corrections late in the night and then shhhh is totally normal guys

Alieberman wrote:If this was before the Book stuff...

If the FBI had anything at all on Miller....

Why was Book dragged away by the FBI when they had the big fish in Miller?

This is all bullshit

I agree this is all crap and doesn't add up any way you slice it.

I was/am just hoping we can catch ESPN in a total lie

Was the talk back technically the 24th in the ETZ?

PHXCATS wrote:

Alieberman wrote:If this was before the Book stuff...

If the FBI had anything at all on Miller....

Why was Book dragged away by the FBI when they had the big fish in Miller?

This is all bullshit

I agree this is all crap and doesn't add up any way you slice it.

I was/am just hoping we can catch ESPN in a total lie

We did Machina. It’s right there.

Jim click should file a class action lawsuit in behalf of fans for lost productivity pain and suffering.

Bruce is on 1580 here in Phoenix right now making no sense. He has no clue on anything at all

The problem right now is this story is being taken apart by a bunch of Arizona fanboys.

No "real" media has touched this yet.

Why?

Alieberman wrote:The problem right now is this story is being taken apart by a bunch of Arizona fanboys.

No "real" media has touched this yet.

Why?

More money and eyes on saying a top coach is dirty.

Although CBS has started asking questions

Seems like I would want to get my story straight before dropping a bombshell story, but that’s just me.

Alieberman wrote:The problem right now is this story is being taken apart by a bunch of Arizona fanboys.

No "real" media has touched this yet.

Why?

They don't care. They've moved on from the news cycle early Saturday.

NYCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:The problem right now is this story is being taken apart by a bunch of Arizona fanboys.

No "real" media has touched this yet.

Why?

They don't care. They've moved on from the news cycle early Saturday.

I know it's easy to say that as a fan... but if Yahoo, CBS etc could do something to make ESPN look stupid... they would go for it

It’s times like this you’d think Goodman would throw us a bone. Wait he’s with the WWL

Alieberman wrote:

NYCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:The problem right now is this story is being taken apart by a bunch of Arizona fanboys.

No "real" media has touched this yet.

Why?

They don't care. They've moved on from the news cycle early Saturday.

I know it's easy to say that as a fan... but if Yahoo, CBS etc could do something to make ESPN look stupid... they would go for it

Maybe Yahoo, CBS, etc... feel that it would be wise to not publish a story with such huge implications without a solid source and/or evidence. If they went after ESPN without such they would be doing the exact same thing.

Phylek wrote:

Alieberman wrote:

NYCat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:The problem right now is this story is being taken apart by a bunch of Arizona fanboys.

No "real" media has touched this yet.

Why?

They don't care. They've moved on from the news cycle early Saturday.

I know it's easy to say that as a fan... but if Yahoo, CBS etc could do something to make ESPN look stupid... they would go for it

Maybe Yahoo, CBS, etc... feel that it would be wise to not publish a story with such huge implications without a solid source and/or evidence. If they went after ESPN without such they would be doing the exact same thing.

Exactly. Still to early for that. But Parish has started asking the questions so gives me hope

Since it is clear Dawkins or his lawyer is the source, why isn't every news organization barring his door for clarification? Schlabach, too. It seems this guy was given a tiny window of information and no context. And he went with it but now has no idea what it all means. His silence is deafening.

Merkin wrote:

Looks like ever former player is behind Miller. That's awesome.

Tj’s bringing it. Someone’s cutting onions over here.

Myron Medcalf just responded to me asking him about his appearance just now on Golic and Wingo.

Didn't mention the correction at all during his appearance.

zonagrad wrote:

Merkin wrote:

Looks like ever former player is behind Miller. That's awesome.

McConnell Is one of my most recent favorites to make it to the NBA. His hard work, hustle and style of play would not be denied. Imagine if we had him right now with Ayton.

Fuck yeah, TJ.

azcat34 wrote:

Myron Medcalf just responded to me asking him about his appearance just now on Golic and Wingo.

Didn't mention the correction at all during his appearance.

What did he say?

I hope it's panic mode in Bristol.

I can't wait for this 30 for 30 to come out.

I hope if he is ever presented with an ESPN reporter, he pulls his next question routine.

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I can't wait for this 30 for 30 to come out.

Will ESPN even have enough money to produce a 30 for 30? Will they want to?

CatHoops wrote:

azcat34 wrote:

Myron Medcalf just responded to me asking him about his appearance just now on Golic and Wingo.

Didn't mention the correction at all during his appearance.

What did he say?

Very unimpressed

Circle the wagons, closed practices the rest of the way, all PR and post game go through Arizona BB media relations.

Send Romar our with game notes and direction to defer all non game questions to the uofa.

Screw em all.

Translation, Myron has bills to pay and children to feed.

CalStateTempe wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I can't wait for this 30 for 30 to come out.

Will ESPN even have enough money to produce a 30 for 30? Will they want to?

Correction: I can't wait until SMSPN comes out with a 30 for 30 about this

ESPN= CNN

rgdeuce wrote:ESPN= Fox News

FIFY.

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I can't wait for this 30 for 30 to come out.

Will ESPN even have enough money to produce a 30 for 30? Will they want to?

Correction: I can't wait until SMSPN comes out with a 30 for 30 about this

Lol, that’s what I’m talking about.

Who we gotta tweet @ that NOT a part of the ESPN to start getting some traction on this? Right now it's just us crazy ass UA fans and Scheer.

BTW, hi guys. Haven't been around these parts in awhile. Nothing like impending doom to bring people out of the woodwork, eh?

azcat34 wrote:

CatHoops wrote:

azcat34 wrote:

Myron Medcalf just responded to me asking him about his appearance just now on Golic and Wingo.

Didn't mention the correction at all during his appearance.

What did he say?

Very unimpressed

Well done!

Sports illustrated has an article out asking questions saying the espn article doesn't add up.. Keep making noise it's being heard

phenom5 wrote:Who we gotta tweet @ that NOT a part of the ESPN to start getting some traction on this? Right now it's just us crazy ass UA fans and Scheer.

BTW, hi guys. Haven't been around these parts in awhile. Nothing like impending doom to bring people out of the woodwork, eh?

well hello there

CatHoops wrote:Sports illustrated has an article out asking questions saying the espn article doesn't add up.. Keep making noise it's being heard

Link?

Thanks dude. Those with twitter need to start hammer tweeting si forde and cbs.

From the SI article...finally some logic

"The ESPN report states that Dawkins asked Miller if he should deal with Richardson (who had been on his staff for 10 years, dating back to their time at Xavier) to finalize a financial agreement for Ayton, and that Miller asked to be dealt with directly. That Miller would want to handle the payment by himself in the highest-profile recruitment of his career is somewhat bewildering. Presumably, a conversation took place, but this is simply a piece of it. Though it may not matter in the court of opinion, there are elements that don’t make total sense...."

CalStateTempe wrote:

CatHoops wrote:Sports illustrated has an article out asking questions saying the espn article doesn't add up.. Keep making noise it's being heard

Link?

Thanks dude. Those with twitter need to start hammer tweeting si forde and cbs.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... estigation" target="_blank

This doesn't have to be Arizona vs ESPN.

This should Arizona + Fox + CBS + Yahoo vs ESPN.

ESPN has competitors. They should be more than willing to jump aboard.

Mark Schlabach hasn't been on social media for about 14hrs not normal.. Do you think some"important" people were wanting some info on where this is coming from?