Re: ASU blows
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:38 pm
Capel may be been promised it. I thought Wojo was in line, but he is embarrassing himself at Marquette.scumdevils86 wrote:if he does well for 2-3 years at asu does he replace rat face?
Capel may be been promised it. I thought Wojo was in line, but he is embarrassing himself at Marquette.scumdevils86 wrote:if he does well for 2-3 years at asu does he replace rat face?
Yes, but he hasn't done any of that. Aside from his name, I have no idea why asu fans would be excited (maybe because their program is at rock bottom) about his resume. I think this is a good hire for them from the perspective that it will likely fail. He has spent one year at Wagner as an assistant, one year at Rhode Island as associate HC, and 2 years at Buffalo. His greatest coaching accomplishment to date is getting Buffalo into the tournament.Gilbertcat wrote:http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /25529185/The good news for Hurley: It's not a complete rebuilding job. The Sun Devils are expected to return four starters from last season's 18-16 team that lost in the second round of the NIT. Sophomore forward Savon Goodman and freshman point guard Tra Holder flashed all-conference ability.
I dont know about that quote.
Also, most of the article stresses his college playing career. Shouldnt most of it focus on who he has recruited, what ties he might have out west, and what is his coaching philosophy (and how it might translate out west)?
Because he isn't Sendek. Hurley provides some hope, and Herb pretty much had ASU fans locked into mediocrity.BMalo wrote:Yes, but he hasn't done any of that. Aside from his name, I have no idea why asu fans would be excited (maybe because their program is at rock bottom) about his resume. I think this is a good hire for them from the perspective that it will likely fail. He has spent one year at Wagner as an assistant, one year at Rhode Island as associate HC, and 2 years at Buffalo. His greatest coaching accomplishment to date is getting Buffalo into the tournament.Gilbertcat wrote:http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /25529185/The good news for Hurley: It's not a complete rebuilding job. The Sun Devils are expected to return four starters from last season's 18-16 team that lost in the second round of the NIT. Sophomore forward Savon Goodman and freshman point guard Tra Holder flashed all-conference ability.
I dont know about that quote.
Also, most of the article stresses his college playing career. Shouldnt most of it focus on who he has recruited, what ties he might have out west, and what is his coaching philosophy (and how it might translate out west)?
I never thought it would get any easier for me to hate Hurley. I was wrong.
He took Buffalo to the tournament in Year 2 and they had a very competitive game against West Virginia. They led Kentucky at halftime this year at Rupp. He has been a very successful coach thus far.BBQ wildcat wrote:Coming from a family where his father is a coach doesn't necessarily mean he will be a great, or even good, coach AND recruiter. 5 of the 6 Freshmen / sophomores on Buffalo's team ( really the only players he could have recruited) are guards. He won't get far recruiting mostly guards based on his reputation. A coach with 2 seasons under his belt is very unproven and could just as easily be a complete bust, (IMO, of course).
Which is what I hope for, him being a dookie and now a scum devil. Going from a bad devil to a worse devil.
None, which is the same amount Rich Rod when he came to UA, too. But don't inject any facts into this; the natives are restless and want to try and have fun with this one.Merkin wrote:What ties did Sean Miller have out west?
Hurley is a good coach to push the rivalry since many UA fans hate Dookies in general, especially the white boys.
Sadly, I assume that is Norvell's real twitter bravely attempting to use an apostrophe in the correct context and failing.Chicat wrote:
Well then that's good news for Hurley and Sun Devil fans because ASU is definitely not a major program.Puerco wrote:Big gamble... Nothing on Hurley's résumé shows he's ready to lead a major program.
I think is strange that he is getting the same amount as Herb got. You would think you would need more money to tempt someone to the PAC-12 version of the graveyard of college coaches.Gilbertcat wrote:I love the look, he now realizes what he has done. He obviously needed the money from his failed horse racing. He was getting $250,000 a year at Buffalo. Per DougHaller, he will get $1.2 million this year. Nice raise. But this is a fanbase who thought they could offer nearly $1.5 ($2.9+) million more a year to get Pastner...
He isnt making a ton now and it puts him in the mid to lower range in the pac. I do like how they keep trying to use recruiting against Arizona has their focus...like SDST, UCLA, Utah, and Col dont have the other edges in the region.
I think his agent didn't do Bobby much of a service here. ASU was somewhat over a barrel; he probably could've got more money and perhaps even much more money ($150K a month instead of $100K a month) if he had played it right.az91 wrote:I think is strange that he is getting the same amount as Herb got. You would think you would need more money to tempt someone to the PAC-12 version of the graveyard of college coaches.
Owning? I guess. Last 8 years Asu is 9-8 against us. Although 6 of the wins are against KON, Pennell and Miller's first team.UAEebs86 wrote:Michael Crow was talking a lot of smack about ASU owning the rivalry recently. I guess winning some games at Wells Fargo puts them ahead? Conference championships, tourney appearances, Sweet Sixteens/Elite Eights don't matter I guess.
What a joke.
He said, "Ask him how it's gone lately."UAEebs86 wrote:Michael Crow was talking a lot of smack about ASU owning the rivalry recently. I guess winning some games at Wells Fargo puts them ahead? Conference championships, tourney appearances, Sweet Sixteens/Elite Eights don't matter I guess.
What a joke.
He figured it out faster than dude on the far right did.Chicat wrote:This is going to be fun...
Four years from now, are we going to see Bobby sitting by himself at a Vegas fast food joint sadly choking down a Double Loser with Cheese?
I think Hurley found that shirt and tie hanging on the back of his new office door because Herb forgot to grab them on his way out.Spaceman Spiff wrote:He figured it out faster than dude on the far right did.Chicat wrote:This is going to be fun...
Four years from now, are we going to see Bobby sitting by himself at a Vegas fast food joint sadly choking down a Double Loser with Cheese?
Yep. Cherry-picked 9-8 over the last 17 games.ASUHATER! wrote:Wait did crow say that he thinks Arizona is hoping to get the rivalry to .500 soon?
In the past decade, they have a 170-154 overall record and one NCAA tournament win. We have four Elite Eight appearances and two Sweet 16 appearances. We have been ranked #1 in the nation more weeks than they have spent in any sort of postseason.UAEebs86 wrote:Michael Crow was talking a lot of smack about ASU owning the rivalry recently. I guess winning some games at Wells Fargo puts them ahead? Conference championships, tourney appearances, Sweet Sixteens/Elite Eights don't matter I guess.
What a joke.
Nice ASSU number work there. Do you think he used his fingers and toes to come up with that record?UAEebs86 wrote:Yep. Cherry-picked 9-8 over the last 17 games.ASUHATER! wrote:Wait did crow say that he thinks Arizona is hoping to get the rivalry to .500 soon?
This seems to explain why he was willing to take a sub-par offer from ASU.Katzenfreund wrote:Looks like Hurley is in there for the cash.
Bobby Hurley's old farm sold
Devil Eleven Farm, the foreclosed Florida Thoroughbred farm once owned by former Duke University and Sacramento Kings basketball player Bobby Hurley, has been sold.
The 140-acre property that Hurley and his wife, Leslie, bought for $3 million in 2006 brought just under $1.3 million on May 26. According to the Ocala Star-Banner, the buyer is Remeta Sky LLC, whose manager is Kansas veterinarian Dr. Karen Young.
In 2009, PNC Bank sued the Hurleys and their Devil Eleven Stable in a Kentucky court, alleging they defaulted on loans, and seized the couple's 12 shares in Songandaprayer. Hurley had paid $1 million for Songandaprayer, a son of Unbridled's Song, as a juvenile and campaigned him to win the Fountain of Youth in 2001. The 13-year-old horse currently stands at Walmac for an advertised $6,500 fee.
Last August, claiming about $3 million in unpaid loans, PNC Bank foreclosed on the Ocala farm.
Hurley how helps coach the Wagner College men's basketball team on Staten Island, N. Y., where his brother Dan is head coach.
i think crow was referring to the rivalry numbers since herb was hc, but it looks like he's using "asu math" and got it wrong:UAEebs86 wrote:Yep. Cherry-picked 9-8 over the last 17 games.ASUHATER! wrote:Wait did crow say that he thinks Arizona is hoping to get the rivalry to .500 soon?
Little Brother SyndromeCalStateTempe wrote:That have the lamest comparisons.
When Miller came it was "Teacher was going to school the pupil"
Now with Hurley, its "the next east coast upstart coming west"
So lame.
TheJuiceMan124 wrote:CalStateTempe wrote:http://duke.scout.com/forums/1386-tdd-h ... -asu?s=167
We can bash ASU all we want, and for sure they make it pretty easy but this is a pretty ridiculous post.Olsondogg wrote:Can someone fill me in on their "great" coach? I mean he's won a total of 42 games more than you or I.
I mean, they shipped off a guy with 402 wins for someone with 10% of that. Perhaps he is, but ASU isn't where someone goes to prove they are a great coach. It's where coaches go to be forgotten and ignored.
Herb made five straight NCAAT at a ACC school before Arizona State hired him, take away Hurley's name and tell me what you've got. This isn't a clear upgrade, this is a desperate gamble where the upside is "if he wins enough he gets an ACC job in a few years."azcat34 wrote:We can bash ASU all we want, and for sure they make it pretty easy but this is a pretty ridiculous post.Olsondogg wrote:Can someone fill me in on their "great" coach? I mean he's won a total of 42 games more than you or I.
I mean, they shipped off a guy with 402 wins for someone with 10% of that. Perhaps he is, but ASU isn't where someone goes to prove they are a great coach. It's where coaches go to be forgotten and ignored.
Herb was locked into mediocrity and Hurley just took Buffalo to the NCAA Tournament and played West Virginia pretty damn competitively. That is a lot more than Herb can ever say. He lucked into a loophole to get Harden to campus and that was the only way he got his one tournament win at ASU.
Hurley is definitely unproven, but so is every coach until they get an opportunity.
This is a clear upgrade over Herb, I don't know how anyone can say otherwise.
Buffalo had never made the tournament or won their conference until Hurley got there and won back to back conference titles. Not exactly was recruiting to some basketball mecca. He also was recruiting to Buffalo, NY, have you been there? Tempe is a million times better.ZONACAT wrote:Herb made five straight NCAAT at a ACC school before Arizona State hired him, take away Hurley's name and tell me what you've got. This isn't a clear upgrade, this is a desperate gamble where the upside is "if he wins enough he gets an ACC job in a few years."azcat34 wrote:We can bash ASU all we want, and for sure they make it pretty easy but this is a pretty ridiculous post.Olsondogg wrote:Can someone fill me in on their "great" coach? I mean he's won a total of 42 games more than you or I.
I mean, they shipped off a guy with 402 wins for someone with 10% of that. Perhaps he is, but ASU isn't where someone goes to prove they are a great coach. It's where coaches go to be forgotten and ignored.
Herb was locked into mediocrity and Hurley just took Buffalo to the NCAA Tournament and played West Virginia pretty damn competitively. That is a lot more than Herb can ever say. He lucked into a loophole to get Harden to campus and that was the only way he got his one tournament win at ASU.
Hurley is definitely unproven, but so is every coach until they get an opportunity.
This is a clear upgrade over Herb, I don't know how anyone can say otherwise.
Herb is a good coach, that was dragged down by the negative vortex that is Arizona State basketball. It'll suck down Hurley with ease.