Bear Down Wildcats

btfd16 wrote:

cats101 wrote:How about the bomb he dropped around 3:30...about the player that ended up elsewhere....

I think Hansen was half right it was Bowen

Bosy Billups wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Also, ESPN is standing by this reporting:

Someone told our reporter something.

Sure, that could be true. Now is it good journalism to print salacious and career ending allegations without evidence or confirmation? No - it's fucking not.

They aint in the game for good journalism, they are in for "reputation-making stories" for reporters, and eyeballs, add revenue, etc.

YOU MSM FAKE NEWS DENIERS, where art thou? This is how it works! Destroy a man with little recourse. Fuck

YoDeFoe wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

cats101 wrote:How about the bomb he dropped around 3:30...about the player that ended up elsewhere....

I think Hansen was half right it was Bowen

I could see that of course. Or Quinerly.

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

cats101 wrote:How about the bomb he dropped around 3:30...about the player that ended up elsewhere....

I think Hansen was half right it was Bowen

I could see that of course. Or Quinerly.

I think it has to be Bowen. Miller said the player did not attend Arizona. In that carefully worded a statement, there's no way he would say that about someone who was not in college yet.

scumdevils86 wrote:

Bosy Billups wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Also, ESPN is standing by this reporting:

Someone told our reporter something.

Sure, that could be true. Now is it good journalism to print salacious and career ending allegations without evidence or confirmation? No - it's fucking not.

They aint in the game for good journalism, they are in for "reputation-making stories" for reporters, and eyeballs, add revenue, etc.

YOU MSM FAKE NEWS DENIERS, where art thou? This is how it works! Destroy a man with little recourse. Fuck

lol.

cpt wrote:Just wondering...do you think the University or ABOR offered Miller a deal: we will stand by you if you sign an affidavit saying your version of events is true and that if proven untrue, you will forfeit any compensation due? If so, that would be a very powerful statement of Miller's innocence.

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something

btfd16 wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something

We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred

ByJoveByJingle wrote:ESPN stands by its reporting on Miller and the FBI investigation.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ng-recruit

atlantakat wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something

We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred

Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

atlantakat wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something

We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred

Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

atlantakat wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something

We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred

Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

ESPN reporting
March 1, 2018 1:39 PM
Additional reporting confirmed that ESPN was correct in a Feb. 24 SportsCenter video talk back which stated that Arizona coach Sean Miller and Christian Dawkins, a key figure in the FBI's investigation into college basketball corruption, spoke in 2017. A correction of that report, issued Feb. 25, misstated that the conversation in question took place in 2016. ESPN stands by the reporting of the story on SportsCenter and ESPN digital media.

atlantakat wrote:

btfd16 wrote:

BE4RDOWN21 wrote:I hope he was telling the truth. Those were some strong words "never have, never will..." . I'd hate to see a disgruntled former player come out and say something

We pay players. No secret. But I think he can deny that he does. It's boosters and after they get on campus is what I have inferred

Can we enjoy a few days without folks posting crap like this?

Longhorned wrote:

Beefcurtainsandwich wrote:ESPN standing by their report...
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... ng-recruit" target="_blank

"ESPN stands by its reporting on Miller and the FBI investigation" = "It's not our fault. It's our sources' fault."

TatetheGreat wrote:Third time's the charm?

YoDeFoe wrote:

phxcat23 wrote:What’s happening can’t watch

Miller flat out denying any wrong doing. Called ESPN report defamatory and harmful. Respect for on-going investigation and won't share further details.

Sounds like Dawkins spoke with Miller about paying a player and Miller says he rejected that offer but won't go further.

HE'S FUCKING BACK

SunnyAZ wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:

phxcat23 wrote:What’s happening can’t watch

Miller flat out denying any wrong doing. Called ESPN report defamatory and harmful. Respect for on-going investigation and won't share further details.

Sounds like Dawkins spoke with Miller about paying a player and Miller says he rejected that offer but won't go further.

HE'S FUCKING BACK

nah, I think the CBS guys got it right when they said Dawkins probably approached Miller about trying to get Ayton to go with sign with their agency

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

SunnyAZ wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:

phxcat23 wrote:What’s happening can’t watch

Miller flat out denying any wrong doing. Called ESPN report defamatory and harmful. Respect for on-going investigation and won't share further details.

Sounds like Dawkins spoke with Miller about paying a player and Miller says he rejected that offer but won't go further.

HE'S FUCKING BACK

nah, I think the CBS guys got it right when they said Dawkins probably approached Miller about trying to get Ayton to go with sign with their agency

I don't think that's correct. Miller was pretty specific the offer was for a player who did not enroll at Arizona.

catgrad97 wrote:We don't know how much of the ESPN report is accurate. And that network has done zilch to merit any benefit of doubt on the Miller story to date.

billk78 wrote:I expect McHale to probably be the loudest it's ever been for tonight's game.

Beachcat97 wrote:ESPN radio guys are pretty defiant today. They feel offended by Miller's statement today. ESPN's ill will for AZ knows no bounds.

By MICHAEL MCCANN March 01, 2018

As Arizona coach Sean Miller forcibly professed his innocence on Thursday in a statement that affirmed his status with the team, a source familiar with the college hoops corruption investigation confirmed with SI that the details of a wiretapped phone call involving Miller were inaccurately reported in a story by ESPN that said Miller “discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats.”

According to the source, relevant FBI wiretaps in the investigation did not begin until 2017—months after five-star recruit Deandre Ayton had already committed to Arizona in Sept. 2016. This account is consistent with reporting by Evan Daniels of 247Sports. The recruitment of Ayton, therefore, would have not been at issue in an intercepted phone call that occurred in 2017. To that end, the source told SI what Miller clarified for the first time Thursday: Ayton is not the player on whose behalf former ASM Sports employee Christian Dawkins allegedly sought a payment from Miller, and Miller never pursued or made any payments to a recruit associated with Dawkins.

This account depicts Miller as complying with both the law and NCAA recruiting rules. The same holds true of Ayton, whose compliance with NCAA rules would ensure that he remains eligible to play for the final month of his freshman year.

For his part, Miller made clear on Thursday that he will fight the allegations. In a press conference held at the university, Miller stressed that he had “never paid a recruit or a prospect” and would never do so. He also asserted that he and Ayton have suffered “defamation” by the manner in which the media has reported the allegations. The possibility of Miller and Ayton filing defamation lawsuits is examined more closely below.

cpt wrote:

scumdevils86 wrote:

Bosy Billups wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:Also, ESPN is standing by this reporting:

Someone told our reporter something.

Sure, that could be true. Now is it good journalism to print salacious and career ending allegations without evidence or confirmation? No - it's fucking not.

They aint in the game for good journalism, they are in for "reputation-making stories" for reporters, and eyeballs, add revenue, etc.

YOU MSM FAKE NEWS DENIERS, where art thou? This is how it works! Destroy a man with little recourse. Fuck

lol.

What we learned is ESPN is a far cry from The New York Times, Washington Post and, hell, even Yahoo.

SunnyAZ wrote:

Spaceman Spiff wrote:

SunnyAZ wrote:

YoDeFoe wrote:

phxcat23 wrote:What’s happening can’t watch

Miller flat out denying any wrong doing. Called ESPN report defamatory and harmful. Respect for on-going investigation and won't share further details.

Sounds like Dawkins spoke with Miller about paying a player and Miller says he rejected that offer but won't go further.

HE'S FUCKING BACK

nah, I think the CBS guys got it right when they said Dawkins probably approached Miller about trying to get Ayton to go with sign with their agency

I don't think that's correct. Miller was pretty specific the offer was for a player who did not enroll at Arizona.

he was talking about in general, not with Dawkins. Why would Dawkins care if a player came to UA? His job is to get players to sign with their agency.

The ESPN report is probably mostly right, good thing for us they made themselves look foolish in the process. Most likely Dawkins talked to Miller about persuading Ayton to sign with them, with the 100K going to Miller to do it. The initial report never said anything about the transaction going through, only that there was a discussion. Miller most likely shut it down hence why there was no mention of it in Dawkins' expense report that Yahoo leaked earlier.

ezinaz wrote:SI piles on ESPN:

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... spn-report" target="_blank

As Arizona coach Sean Miller forcibly professed his innocence on Thursday in a statement that affirmed his status with the team, a source familiar with the college hoops corruption investigation confirmed with SI that the details of a wiretapped phone call involving Miller were inaccurately reported in a story by ESPN that said Miller “discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats.”

According to the source, relevant FBI wiretaps in the investigation did not begin until 2017—months after five-star recruit Deandre Ayton had already committed to Arizona in Sept. 2016. This account is consistent with reporting by Evan Daniels of 247Sports. The recruitment of Ayton, therefore, would have not been at issue in an intercepted phone call that occurred in 2017. To that end, the source told SI what Miller clarified for the first time Thursday: Ayton is not the player on whose behalf former ASM Sports employee Christian Dawkins allegedly sought a payment from Miller, and Miller never pursued or made any payments to a recruit associated with Dawkins.

This account depicts Miller as complying with both the law and NCAA recruiting rules. The same holds true of Ayton, whose compliance with NCAA rules would ensure that he remains eligible to play for the final month of his freshman year.

For his part, Miller made clear on Thursday that he will fight the allegations. In a press conference held at the university, Miller stressed that he had “never paid a recruit or a prospect” and would never do so. He also asserted that he and Ayton have suffered “defamation” by the manner in which the media has reported the allegations. The possibility of Miller and Ayton filing defamation lawsuits is examined more closely below.

ezinaz wrote:SI piles on ESPN:

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2 ... spn-report" target="_blank

As Arizona coach Sean Miller forcibly professed his innocence on Thursday in a statement that affirmed his status with the team, a source familiar with the college hoops corruption investigation confirmed with SI that the details of a wiretapped phone call involving Miller were inaccurately reported in a story by ESPN that said Miller “discussed paying $100,000 to ensure star freshman Deandre Ayton signed with the Wildcats.”

According to the source, relevant FBI wiretaps in the investigation did not begin until 2017—months after five-star recruit Deandre Ayton had already committed to Arizona in Sept. 2016. This account is consistent with reporting by Evan Daniels of 247Sports. The recruitment of Ayton, therefore, would have not been at issue in an intercepted phone call that occurred in 2017. To that end, the source told SI what Miller clarified for the first time Thursday: Ayton is not the player on whose behalf former ASM Sports employee Christian Dawkins allegedly sought a payment from Miller, and Miller never pursued or made any payments to a recruit associated with Dawkins.

This account depicts Miller as complying with both the law and NCAA recruiting rules. The same holds true of Ayton, whose compliance with NCAA rules would ensure that he remains eligible to play for the final month of his freshman year.

For his part, Miller made clear on Thursday that he will fight the allegations. In a press conference held at the university, Miller stressed that he had “never paid a recruit or a prospect” and would never do so. He also asserted that he and Ayton have suffered “defamation” by the manner in which the media has reported the allegations. The possibility of Miller and Ayton filing defamation lawsuits is examined more closely below.