Re: UCLA Basketball in trouble?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:45 pm
I thought Brown was going to UCLA. Watch him end up at Cal.
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Mississippi State just signed a guy who has a good track record of success on the West Coast. You have to think they could pry him away from Starkville.Chicat wrote:If there was a time machine that Dan Guerrero could jump in and make the right hire to lead that program . . . maybe.gumby wrote: Were those both possibilities?
err, make that fatigued and irritated...is alfraud still complaining about how fatigued and annoyed he is with recruiting?
It's not a man's schedule if they go 0-4 in those games.Coop Cat wrote:Yikes
F*** OOC rep. We just need to win games and the rest will take care of itself. Our conference RPI will be higher next season, so it's a wash. If we're Pac champs again, we'll be positioned well for March.Chicat wrote:It's a man's schedule no matter what. Whether it's a losing man's or a winning man's remains to be seen.
Unfortunately for the PAC, much of its OOC rep will be determined by Bryce Alford.
Not a 5 star. But nice try, loser.MrBug708 wrote:Alford managed to land Jalen Hill, 5* C from Corona
Scout 5Beachcat97 wrote:Not a 5 star. But nice try, loser.MrBug708 wrote:Alford managed to land Jalen Hill, 5* C from Corona
The only Bruin, current or future, who is even remotely "Arizona good" is probably Welsh.
If he's ever on a team that beats Arizona, we can revisit this.Chicat wrote:Scout 5Beachcat97 wrote:Not a 5 star. But nice try, loser.MrBug708 wrote:Alford managed to land Jalen Hill, 5* C from Corona
The only Bruin, current or future, who is even remotely "Arizona good" is probably Welsh.
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And any way you slice it, he's a really good player and Arizona was definitely interested. Sorry to break that news to you BC.
Your qualifier, "all other things being equal" is a non-starter. Things are never equal. There are pros and cons for all players considering both schools and how those line up usually determines where they go.Beachcat97 wrote:If he's ever on a team that beats Arizona, we can revisit this.Chicat wrote:Scout 5Beachcat97 wrote:Not a 5 star. But nice try, loser.MrBug708 wrote:Alford managed to land Jalen Hill, 5* C from Corona
The only Bruin, current or future, who is even remotely "Arizona good" is probably Welsh.
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And any way you slice it, he's a really good player and Arizona was definitely interested. Sorry to break that news to you BC.
If Miller and Alford go after the same player, all other things being equal (ie: time invested in the recruit, etc.), that player is picking Arizona. It's been this way for a while.
I just don't think UCLA/Aflord has the same appeal these days as Arizona/Miller, so if a guy picks UCLA, I can only think it's because the former was showing up to more events, making more calls, etc. And if Miller and his staff were putting in less time with Hill, then he wasn't as high a priority as guys like Jackson and Hands, both of whom I expect to end up at AZ.Chicat wrote:Your qualifier, "all other things being equal" is a non-starter. Things are never equal. There are pros and cons for all players considering both schools and how those line up usually determines where they go.Beachcat97 wrote:If he's ever on a team that beats Arizona, we can revisit this.Chicat wrote:Scout 5Beachcat97 wrote:Not a 5 star. But nice try, loser.MrBug708 wrote:Alford managed to land Jalen Hill, 5* C from Corona
The only Bruin, current or future, who is even remotely "Arizona good" is probably Welsh.
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And any way you slice it, he's a really good player and Arizona was definitely interested. Sorry to break that news to you BC.
If Miller and Alford go after the same player, all other things being equal (ie: time invested in the recruit, etc.), that player is picking Arizona. It's been this way for a while.
Sean Miller was recruiting Jalen Hill. Steve Alford got his commitment. It's ok BC, it happens. I'm sure Sean and the other coaches are on to the next target, and don't have this silly notion in their minds that they can get any recruit in California and the southwest they want just by snapping their fingers like you seem to. Recruiting is hard work. Kudos to Alford for bagging a big time recruit.
That is some impressive logic.Beachcat97 wrote:I just don't think UCLA/Aflord has the same appeal these days as Arizona/Miller, so if a guy picks UCLA, I can only think it's because the former was showing up to more events, making more calls, etc. And if Miller and his staff were putting in less time with Hill, then he wasn't as high a priority as guys like Jackson and Hands, both of whom I expect to end up at AZ.
That's true. Miller's recruiting success is greatly overstated. AG, Stanley, Rondae, Zeus, Trier, Smith, Simon, Jerrett, Ashley, NJ...these were aberrations.Chicat wrote:That is some impressive logic.Beachcat97 wrote:I just don't think UCLA/Aflord has the same appeal these days as Arizona/Miller, so if a guy picks UCLA, I can only think it's because the former was showing up to more events, making more calls, etc. And if Miller and his staff were putting in less time with Hill, then he wasn't as high a priority as guys like Jackson and Hands, both of whom I expect to end up at AZ.
Sean Miller simply couldn't have been putting in the same amount of effort into Hill because Alford got the commitment and since he obviously wasn't putting in the effort Hill wasn't a high priority. Do I have that right? But you have no facts to base this on except that Hill chose UCLA. Right?
Dude, we recently lost a highly ranked recruit to Cal of all places. A program with about 1/100th the prestige and history of UCLA. Not every recruiting battle is going to be won by Sean Miller simply because you think he's some sort of god on the recruiting trail.
Do you live in a fantasy world where guys like Justise Winslow, Ivan Rabb, and Jalen Hill cease to exist as soon as they commit elsewhere?Beachcat97 wrote:That's true. Miller's recruiting success is greatly overstated. AG, Stanley, Rondae, Zeus, Trier, Smith, Simon, Jerrett, Ashley, NJ...these were aberrations.Chicat wrote:That is some impressive logic.Beachcat97 wrote:I just don't think UCLA/Aflord has the same appeal these days as Arizona/Miller, so if a guy picks UCLA, I can only think it's because the former was showing up to more events, making more calls, etc. And if Miller and his staff were putting in less time with Hill, then he wasn't as high a priority as guys like Jackson and Hands, both of whom I expect to end up at AZ.
Sean Miller simply couldn't have been putting in the same amount of effort into Hill because Alford got the commitment and since he obviously wasn't putting in the effort Hill wasn't a high priority. Do I have that right? But you have no facts to base this on except that Hill chose UCLA. Right?
Dude, we recently lost a highly ranked recruit to Cal of all places. A program with about 1/100th the prestige and history of UCLA. Not every recruiting battle is going to be won by Sean Miller simply because you think he's some sort of god on the recruiting trail.
Miller is most certainly not a god on the recruiting trail.
Beachcat97 wrote:Not a 5 star. But nice try, loser.MrBug708 wrote:Alford managed to land Jalen Hill, 5* C from Corona
The only Bruin, current or future, who is even remotely "Arizona good" is probably Welsh.
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball ... terest=LowASUHATER! wrote:Hill is a 4 star pf, not a 5 star center. Still a good pickup for ucla.
You said he wasn't a 5 star, which was obviously wrong. I know his rankings, but I've been using BRO since forever and the lead west coast analyst for scout is basically why this board exists, so I used scout.ASUHATER! wrote:http://247sports.com/Player/Jalen-Hill-77042
Chi, Chi, Chi...all I'm saying is that Miller tends to not whiff on guys he's making high priorities, Rabb being the only real exception in the last several years. And with Rabb, it was a situation where the guy wanted to play close to home, so I don't consider it a slight against Miller/AZ.Chicat wrote:Do you live in a fantasy world where guys like Justise Winslow, Ivan Rabb, and Jalen Hill cease to exist as soon as they commit elsewhere?Beachcat97 wrote:That's true. Miller's recruiting success is greatly overstated. AG, Stanley, Rondae, Zeus, Trier, Smith, Simon, Jerrett, Ashley, NJ...these were aberrations.Chicat wrote:That is some impressive logic.Beachcat97 wrote:I just don't think UCLA/Aflord has the same appeal these days as Arizona/Miller, so if a guy picks UCLA, I can only think it's because the former was showing up to more events, making more calls, etc. And if Miller and his staff were putting in less time with Hill, then he wasn't as high a priority as guys like Jackson and Hands, both of whom I expect to end up at AZ.
Sean Miller simply couldn't have been putting in the same amount of effort into Hill because Alford got the commitment and since he obviously wasn't putting in the effort Hill wasn't a high priority. Do I have that right? But you have no facts to base this on except that Hill chose UCLA. Right?
Dude, we recently lost a highly ranked recruit to Cal of all places. A program with about 1/100th the prestige and history of UCLA. Not every recruiting battle is going to be won by Sean Miller simply because you think he's some sort of god on the recruiting trail.
Miller is most certainly not a god on the recruiting trail.
No one is a god on the recruiting trail. Even Calipari loses recruits to other schools. Time to grow up and come to grips with that. Or don't, and live in a reality of your own creation where all Sean Miller has to do is make eye contact with a recruit and they swoon at his feet. If he picks them up, they are Arizona Good. If he steps over their inert body and keeps walking, then they're trash.
247 sports averages all recruiting service rankings and ratings. 4 stars. That is the average accepted rating. Scout is the outlier. So no, I wasn't wrong at all.MrBug708 wrote:You said he wasn't a 5 star, which was obviously wrong. I know his rankings, but I've been using BRO since forever and the lead west coast analyst for scout is basically why this board exists, so I used scout.ASUHATER! wrote:http://247sports.com/Player/Jalen-Hill-77042
Stick to following Machina around instead of trying to policing everyone. Acting like RC97 doesn't help your cause
lolASUHATER! wrote:247 sports averages all recruiting service rankings and ratings. 4 stars. That is the average accepted rating. Scout is the outlier. So no, I wasn't wrong at all.MrBug708 wrote:You said he wasn't a 5 star, which was obviously wrong. I know his rankings, but I've been using BRO since forever and the lead west coast analyst for scout is basically why this board exists, so I used scout.ASUHATER! wrote:http://247sports.com/Player/Jalen-Hill-77042
Stick to following Machina around instead of trying to policing everyone. Acting like RC97 doesn't help your cause
Literally all I did was post a link to 247. If you disagree with their methods and only want to use scout, then so be it. Take your whining to 247 sports. I just posted a link that contradicts your link because it takes into account all information..not just some. ShrugMrBug708 wrote:lolASUHATER! wrote:247 sports averages all recruiting service rankings and ratings. 4 stars. That is the average accepted rating. Scout is the outlier. So no, I wasn't wrong at all.MrBug708 wrote:You said he wasn't a 5 star, which was obviously wrong. I know his rankings, but I've been using BRO since forever and the lead west coast analyst for scout is basically why this board exists, so I used scout.ASUHATER! wrote:http://247sports.com/Player/Jalen-Hill-77042
Stick to following Machina around instead of trying to policing everyone. Acting like RC97 doesn't help your cause
Never change
That Miller is a witch on the recruiting trail?97cats wrote:it just never ends
Does ucla land Cody Riley and Jaylen Hands?97cats wrote:it just never ends
It's fun to watch you puff out your chest about your once proud program and hang recruiting championship banners in your own mind.enfuego wrote:It's fun to watch UA and UCLA fans argue over KU's scraps
This post makes no sense at all. It's like he doesn't realize Arizona has had 5 straight top 5 classes. We sure do only get recruiting scraps alright!enfuego wrote:It's fun to watch UA and UCLA fans argue over KU's scraps
Carlton Bragg.azcat49 wrote:Can hardly remember the last recruiting battle we lost to asschaps?
Try again on Bragg!enfuego wrote:Carlton Bragg.azcat49 wrote:Can hardly remember the last recruiting battle we lost to asschaps?
Looks like Rivals moved Lonzo Ball up to #5 in the 2016 class. Looks like Alford is killing it when it comes to PAC 16 recruiting.
Be sure to let us know when Alford has a single recruiting class ranked ahead of one of Miller's. Hasn't happened yet, and won't.enfuego wrote:Carlton Bragg.azcat49 wrote:Can hardly remember the last recruiting battle we lost to asschaps?
Looks like Rivals moved Lonzo Ball up to #5 in the 2016 class. Looks like Alford is killing it when it comes to PAC 16 recruiting.
KU is in no way inferior to UCLA, but I get your point.dirtbags wrote:so sad to see ku's inferiority complex with ucla rear its head. as if enfuego's constant hang-wringing over UofA wasn't bad enough...
He's in the lead for 2016.Beachcat97 wrote:Be sure to let us know when Alford has a single recruiting class ranked ahead of one of Miller's. Hasn't happened yet, and won't.enfuego wrote:Carlton Bragg.azcat49 wrote:Can hardly remember the last recruiting battle we lost to asschaps?
Looks like Rivals moved Lonzo Ball up to #5 in the 2016 class. Looks like Alford is killing it when it comes to PAC 16 recruiting.
If we only land Jackson, Leaf it's a better classenfuego wrote:He's in the lead for 2016.Beachcat97 wrote:Be sure to let us know when Alford has a single recruiting class ranked ahead of one of Miller's. Hasn't happened yet, and won't.enfuego wrote:Carlton Bragg.azcat49 wrote:Can hardly remember the last recruiting battle we lost to asschaps?
Looks like Rivals moved Lonzo Ball up to #5 in the 2016 class. Looks like Alford is killing it when it comes to PAC 16 recruiting.
MrBug708 wrote:http://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/steve- ... ags%20=srm[sport%20%E2%80%93%20ncaab%2Ccontent%20-%20text-based]
Bryce is coming for you guys. Top 50 player in all of college
YessirASUHATER! wrote:...Alford?