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Coaching Searches 2015
Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
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On a side note has there been an Myles Turner sighting this year. I feel like I have not heard a word about him all year. Ivan Rabb needs to take note of what happens when you stay home for the shity team. People forget about you!the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
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You left off the coach with the highest ceiling in college basketball - Tony Bennett.
And Archie Miller probably runs an inferior offensive system we know so much about.
And Archie Miller probably runs an inferior offensive system we know so much about.
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I just assumed Bennett already coaches in the ACC for a team on the rise, and just signed a 7-year extension.UAEebs86 wrote:You left off the coach with the highest ceiling in college basketball - Tony Bennett.
And Archie Miller probably runs an inferior offensive system we know so much about.
As for Turner, he doesn't really play a lot. He has all the skills, but Barnes' rotations are as maddening as his offense (which I think is just streetball).
Either way, he is dead man walking. Texas will owe him a $1.7M buyout, but he gone.
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Just a little joke dill. We have a poster here who loves him some Tony Bennett, and hates Sean Miller's offensive system.the real dill wrote:I just assumed Bennett already coaches in the ACC for a team on the rise, and just signed a 7-year extension.UAEebs86 wrote:You left off the coach with the highest ceiling in college basketball - Tony Bennett.
And Archie Miller probably runs an inferior offensive system we know so much about.
We are the people our parents warned us about.
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I do not think there is a chance Jay Wright leaves Philadelphia, and I would not want any piece of Gregg Marshall.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
The other 3 I think make a solid target list; could not go wrong with any of them.
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Honestly, Marshall may be Texas' best bet as a realistic hire (even though I share Harvey's opinion of him), he'd certainly be a change of pace. Shaka would likely be the best hire, although he turned down UCLA, so I don't see him taking the Texas gig if offered. Jay Wright isn't going anywhere, I doubt Kryst leaves Utah for a college job, and Miller is EST all the way.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
I'd also look at Tad Boyle, Ben Jacobson, and Josh Pastner.
While we're here, can you explain Barnes' love affair with Javon Felix and Jonathan Holmes?
But in my book, you gotta get to White Castle before the weirdos show up!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
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Mere peanuts for Texas. Are you sure he's finally gone? Wonder if we will ever start up a series with them like we have in the past if Barnes is gonzo?the real dill wrote:I just assumed Bennett already coaches in the ACC for a team on the rise, and just signed a 7-year extension.UAEebs86 wrote:You left off the coach with the highest ceiling in college basketball - Tony Bennett.
And Archie Miller probably runs an inferior offensive system we know so much about.
As for Turner, he doesn't really play a lot. He has all the skills, but Barnes' rotations are as maddening as his offense (which I think is just streetball).
Either way, he is dead man walking. Texas will owe him a $1.7M buyout, but he gone.
Why is Miller "EST all the way."? He's been an assistant in the state of AZ twice now.
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And he left Arizona quickly both times, to take jobs in Ohio. His family never became fond of Arizona.CBCat wrote:Mere peanuts for Texas. Are you sure he's finally gone? Wonder if we will ever start up a series with them like we have in the past if Barnes is gonzo?the real dill wrote:I just assumed Bennett already coaches in the ACC for a team on the rise, and just signed a 7-year extension.UAEebs86 wrote:You left off the coach with the highest ceiling in college basketball - Tony Bennett.
And Archie Miller probably runs an inferior offensive system we know so much about.
As for Turner, he doesn't really play a lot. He has all the skills, but Barnes' rotations are as maddening as his offense (which I think is just streetball).
Either way, he is dead man walking. Texas will owe him a $1.7M buyout, but he gone.
Why is Miller "EST all the way."? He's been an assistant in the state of AZ twice now.
But in my book, you gotta get to White Castle before the weirdos show up!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
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The only 2 guys on the team that can hit jump shots outside of 15 feet? I don't know what happened to Holmes. I thought he was playing himself into a late first early second round pick early in the season, but he has fallen apart. Felix is the only guy who can knock down threes, but he's a midget who struggles with tall guards and is a joke on D.Reydituto wrote:Honestly, Marshall may be Texas' best bet as a realistic hire (even though I share Harvey's opinion of him), he'd certainly be a change of pace. Shaka would likely be the best hire, although he turned down UCLA, so I don't see him taking the Texas gig if offered. Jay Wright isn't going anywhere, I doubt Kryst leaves Utah for a college job, and Miller is EST all the way.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
I'd also look at Tad Boyle, Ben Jacobson, and Josh Pastner.
While we're here, can you explain Barnes' love affair with Javon Felix and Jonathan Holmes?
It's time for a change. I can't name one player in the last decade that left Texas as a better offensive player than when they arrived.
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Indiana is on the prowl for Sean Miller.
Although, most of them don't realize he already turned them down long time ago
Archie would be interesting there. High upside, low bar set by Crean & Co. That's a really good opportunity (unlike UCLA).
Although, most of them don't realize he already turned them down long time ago
Archie would be interesting there. High upside, low bar set by Crean & Co. That's a really good opportunity (unlike UCLA).
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Someone mentioned earlier that Shaka turned down UCLA, so they didn't expect that Shaka would take the Texas job if offered. I wonder if the reality is the Texas job right now is a better job than the UCLA job under Guerrero. For me it will be real interesting to see who grabs that UT job.Bosy Billups wrote:Archie would be interesting there. High upside, low bar set by Crean & Co. That's a really good opportunity (unlike UCLA).
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From my perspective without knowing any details, Smart should make the move to the big stage or else risk becoming Dixon-like.
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Myles Turner can hit 15' jumpers. That guy should have become a college star, instead he's almost an after-thought that NBA lottery teams are still drooling over.the real dill wrote:
The only 2 guys on the team that can hit jump shots outside of 15 feet? I don't know what happened to Holmes. I thought he was playing himself into a late first early second round pick early in the season, but he has fallen apart. Felix is the only guy who can knock down threes, but he's a midget who struggles with tall guards and is a joke on D.
It's time for a change. I can't name one player in the last decade that left Texas as a better offensive player than when they arrived.
I hate watching Felix play. Total gunner, couldn't guard my grandma, terrible body language, and I'd imagine some of his teammates hate playing with him.
Holmes is a head case, but yeah, his season has fallen off the ledge. I just think he should be coming off the bench at this point.
That was me.SCCats wrote:Someone mentioned earlier that Shaka turned down UCLA, so they didn't expect that Shaka would take the Texas job if offered. I wonder if the reality is the Texas job right now is a better job than the UCLA job under Guerrero. For me it will be real interesting to see who grabs that UT job.Bosy Billups wrote:Archie would be interesting there. High upside, low bar set by Crean & Co. That's a really good opportunity (unlike UCLA).
From a low-pressure/high-paying perspective, you may be right about Texas. From a prestige, recruiting, higher ceiling perspective, it's still UCLA.
Also, Indiana can add themselves to the NC States and Marylands of the world, and go F themselves. Their wish list should look like this:
Brad Stevens
...
That's it. I think Indiana makes the NCAAs though, and this talk of Crean going away becomes moot.
But in my book, you gotta get to White Castle before the weirdos show up!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
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Given the seasons each coach's team is having, I think UT BB fans (if there are any) would be less than underwhelmed with either Boyle or Pastner.Reydituto wrote:Honestly, Marshall may be Texas' best bet as a realistic hire (even though I share Harvey's opinion of him), he'd certainly be a change of pace. Shaka would likely be the best hire, although he turned down UCLA, so I don't see him taking the Texas gig if offered. Jay Wright isn't going anywhere, I doubt Kryst leaves Utah for a college job, and Miller is EST all the way.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
I'd also look at Tad Boyle, Ben Jacobson, and Josh Pastner.
While we're here, can you explain Barnes' love affair with Javon Felix and Jonathan Holmes?
Either one of those hires, and moreso Pastner, would be reminiscent of Sarkisian getting hired by USC. He did an okay job - but many in Huskyland were thrilled to see him go; his performance certainly did not seem to warrant a huge promotion.
That will be an interesting coaching search to watch...
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Right now I feel like Pastner is unhireable at a major D1 program.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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UCLA will one day swing in the other direction, but not yet, not even close. IMO, the program is locked in the anger phase, headed into bargaining.Reydituto wrote:Myles Turner can hit 15' jumpers. That guy should have become a college star, instead he's almost an after-thought that NBA lottery teams are still drooling over.the real dill wrote:
The only 2 guys on the team that can hit jump shots outside of 15 feet? I don't know what happened to Holmes. I thought he was playing himself into a late first early second round pick early in the season, but he has fallen apart. Felix is the only guy who can knock down threes, but he's a midget who struggles with tall guards and is a joke on D.
It's time for a change. I can't name one player in the last decade that left Texas as a better offensive player than when they arrived.
I hate watching Felix play. Total gunner, couldn't guard my grandma, terrible body language, and I'd imagine some of his teammates hate playing with him.
Holmes is a head case, but yeah, his season has fallen off the ledge. I just think he should be coming off the bench at this point.
That was me.SCCats wrote:Someone mentioned earlier that Shaka turned down UCLA, so they didn't expect that Shaka would take the Texas job if offered. I wonder if the reality is the Texas job right now is a better job than the UCLA job under Guerrero. For me it will be real interesting to see who grabs that UT job.Bosy Billups wrote:Archie would be interesting there. High upside, low bar set by Crean & Co. That's a really good opportunity (unlike UCLA).
From a low-pressure/high-paying perspective, you may be right about Texas. From a prestige, recruiting, higher ceiling perspective, it's still UCLA.
Also, Indiana can add themselves to the NC States and Marylands of the world, and go F themselves. Their wish list should look like this:
Brad Stevens
...
That's it. I think Indiana makes the NCAAs though, and this talk of Crean going away becomes moot.
Stage 1 - DENIAL: We'll fire Howland and get a better coach. No way could we do worse, we're UCLA, come on down Stevens, or Shaka, Yea bitches!
Stage 2 - ANGER: Uh, Steve F'n Alford is all we could get? And we needed an enormous buyout of $10mm to land him? WHAT THE F! FIRE EVERYONE!
Stage 3 - BARGAINING: Okay, what if Alford accepts a lesser buyout and walks a way? Please? What will it take? PLEASE!!!? What do you want man??
Stage 4 - DEPRESSION: Our glory days are over...we're dead. Alford is here for at least 5 more years, and by then, who cares. I am sad. It's over.
Stage 5 - ACCEPTANCE: It is what it is, we had a great run, and who cares about basketball, we have football! I don't give a damn anymore.
When UCLA hits stage 5, it's apathy, and the program has so little downside and so much upside, that job will be huge for the coach who can see it. They can bring the prestige back and have little downside because anything is better than Alford. There likely will be a new AD, and the Howland firing will be a distant memory so it won't be tarnished within the coaching fraternity.
But after Howland's firing, the job was a mirage, and the big dogs saw it clearly. Sadly for Alford, he fell for it...
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Texas would be smart to go back that large truck of cash and get Archie before some of the ACC schools start calling.
Looking at the list of upcoming coaches it just makes me feel that much luckier to have Miller as the coach of Arizona. It just seems like their is a drop off in quality coaches right now.
Looking at the list of upcoming coaches it just makes me feel that much luckier to have Miller as the coach of Arizona. It just seems like their is a drop off in quality coaches right now.
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What power conference jobs will even be open soon? Fsu? Georgia tech?
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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UCLAASUHATER! wrote:What power conference jobs will even be open soon? Fsu? Georgia tech?
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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HehChicat wrote:UCLAASUHATER! wrote:What power conference jobs will even be open soon? Fsu? Georgia tech?
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I've heard that it is basically a done deal that Shaka will replace Roy at UNC at some point.
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I agree with all of that, my point is though that on the whole, with the recency bias of their current seasons removed, both should be considered at least semi-decent hires. Not the most exciting hires though, to be sure.Harvey Specter wrote:Given the seasons each coach's team is having, I think UT BB fans (if there are any) would be less than underwhelmed with either Boyle or Pastner.Reydituto wrote:Honestly, Marshall may be Texas' best bet as a realistic hire (even though I share Harvey's opinion of him), he'd certainly be a change of pace. Shaka would likely be the best hire, although he turned down UCLA, so I don't see him taking the Texas gig if offered. Jay Wright isn't going anywhere, I doubt Kryst leaves Utah for a college job, and Miller is EST all the way.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
I'd also look at Tad Boyle, Ben Jacobson, and Josh Pastner.
While we're here, can you explain Barnes' love affair with Javon Felix and Jonathan Holmes?
Either one of those hires, and moreso Pastner, would be reminiscent of Sarkisian getting hired by USC. He did an okay job - but many in Huskyland were thrilled to see him go; his performance certainly did not seem to warrant a huge promotion.
That will be an interesting coaching search to watch...
I don't, not with his Texas (and now Memphis) recruiting connections. This has been a tough season as far as personnel, injuries, distractions, but overall I think he's done a decent job at Memphis, their expectations are just so high as a residue of the Calipari era and prior Final Fours in the 70's and 80's. Although another couple of relatively mediocre seasons like this one (17-12 [9-7]) and he's more likely to be looking for work instead of being sought out for bigger jobs.Chicat wrote:Right now I feel like Pastner is unhireable at a major D1 program.
I just want to say that this was a fantastic post. Well done sir.Bosy Billups wrote:UCLA will one day swing in the other direction, but not yet, not even close. IMO, the program is locked in the anger phase, headed into bargaining.
Stage 1 - DENIAL: We'll fire Howland and get a better coach. No way could we do worse, we're UCLA, come on down Stevens, or Shaka, Yea bitches!
Stage 2 - ANGER: Uh, Steve F'n Alford is all we could get? And we needed an enormous buyout of $10mm to land him? WHAT THE F! FIRE EVERYONE!
Stage 3 - BARGAINING: Okay, what if Alford accepts a lesser buyout and walks a way? Please? What will it take? PLEASE!!!? What do you want man??
Stage 4 - DEPRESSION: Our glory days are over...we're dead. Alford is here for at least 5 more years, and by then, who cares. I am sad. It's over.
Stage 5 - ACCEPTANCE: It is what it is, we had a great run, and who cares about basketball, we have football! I don't give a damn anymore.
When UCLA hits stage 5, it's apathy, and the program has so little downside and so much upside, that job will be huge for the coach who can see it. They can bring the prestige back and have little downside because anything is better than Alford. There likely will be a new AD, and the Howland firing will be a distant memory so it won't be tarnished within the coaching fraternity.
But after Howland's firing, the job was a mirage, and the big dogs saw it clearly. Sadly for Alford, he fell for it...
I do think the cycle speeds up as soon as Alford is gone, as I still believe the UCLA tradition has drawing power, and the right coach will succeed there.
I still don't think Archie's next move is westward, even if they back up the Brinks trucks.The Goat wrote:Texas would be smart to go back that large truck of cash and get Archie before some of the ACC schools start calling.
Looking at the list of upcoming coaches it just makes me feel that much luckier to have Miller as the coach of Arizona. It just seems like their is a drop off in quality coaches right now.
I do agree that the field for coaching vacancies is relatively thin this year, and it would take a very large domino to fall to change that.
But in my book, you gotta get to White Castle before the weirdos show up!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
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I'm not sure the Pastner family would get a clean slate with the Patterson regime, but they weren't welome around the 40 acres for a long time. I'm sure there are still a lot of people in Belmont that would be very resistant to doing business with them.Reydituto wrote:I agree with all of that, my point is though that on the whole, with the recency bias of their current seasons removed, both should be considered at least semi-decent hires. Not the most exciting hires though, to be sure.Harvey Specter wrote:Given the seasons each coach's team is having, I think UT BB fans (if there are any) would be less than underwhelmed with either Boyle or Pastner.Reydituto wrote:Honestly, Marshall may be Texas' best bet as a realistic hire (even though I share Harvey's opinion of him), he'd certainly be a change of pace. Shaka would likely be the best hire, although he turned down UCLA, so I don't see him taking the Texas gig if offered. Jay Wright isn't going anywhere, I doubt Kryst leaves Utah for a college job, and Miller is EST all the way.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
I'd also look at Tad Boyle, Ben Jacobson, and Josh Pastner.
While we're here, can you explain Barnes' love affair with Javon Felix and Jonathan Holmes?
Either one of those hires, and moreso Pastner, would be reminiscent of Sarkisian getting hired by USC. He did an okay job - but many in Huskyland were thrilled to see him go; his performance certainly did not seem to warrant a huge promotion.
That will be an interesting coaching search to watch...
I don't, not with his Texas (and now Memphis) recruiting connections. This has been a tough season as far as personnel, injuries, distractions, but overall I think he's done a decent job at Memphis, their expectations are just so high as a residue of the Calipari era and prior Final Fours in the 70's and 80's. Although another couple of relatively mediocre seasons like this one (17-12 [9-7]) and he's more likely to be looking for work instead of being sought out for bigger jobs.Chicat wrote:Right now I feel like Pastner is unhireable at a major D1 program.
I just want to say that this was a fantastic post. Well done sir.Bosy Billups wrote:UCLA will one day swing in the other direction, but not yet, not even close. IMO, the program is locked in the anger phase, headed into bargaining.
Stage 1 - DENIAL: We'll fire Howland and get a better coach. No way could we do worse, we're UCLA, come on down Stevens, or Shaka, Yea bitches!
Stage 2 - ANGER: Uh, Steve F'n Alford is all we could get? And we needed an enormous buyout of $10mm to land him? WHAT THE F! FIRE EVERYONE!
Stage 3 - BARGAINING: Okay, what if Alford accepts a lesser buyout and walks a way? Please? What will it take? PLEASE!!!? What do you want man??
Stage 4 - DEPRESSION: Our glory days are over...we're dead. Alford is here for at least 5 more years, and by then, who cares. I am sad. It's over.
Stage 5 - ACCEPTANCE: It is what it is, we had a great run, and who cares about basketball, we have football! I don't give a damn anymore.
When UCLA hits stage 5, it's apathy, and the program has so little downside and so much upside, that job will be huge for the coach who can see it. They can bring the prestige back and have little downside because anything is better than Alford. There likely will be a new AD, and the Howland firing will be a distant memory so it won't be tarnished within the coaching fraternity.
But after Howland's firing, the job was a mirage, and the big dogs saw it clearly. Sadly for Alford, he fell for it...
I do think the cycle speeds up as soon as Alford is gone, as I still believe the UCLA tradition has drawing power, and the right coach will succeed there.
I still don't think Archie's next move is westward, even if they back up the Brinks trucks.The Goat wrote:Texas would be smart to go back that large truck of cash and get Archie before some of the ACC schools start calling.
Looking at the list of upcoming coaches it just makes me feel that much luckier to have Miller as the coach of Arizona. It just seems like their is a drop off in quality coaches right now.
I do agree that the field for coaching vacancies is relatively thin this year, and it would take a very large domino to fall to change that.
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Archie received promotions each time he left the state of Arizona, it isn't like he took the Ohio State and Dayton jobs solely because Morgan hated the desert. Arizona is weird to everyone the first few years and usually after that you are sucked in. I think Sean and Amy went through that adjustment period but would be hard pressed to leave now.
Texas would be absolutely nuts to pass on Archie and I'd think Sean and Calipari would both tell him to take that job. It would certainly be a better landing spot than NCSU or any other ACC job not named Duke/UNC.
The problem at Texas is that Steve Patterson is a complete fucktard who has managed to piss off boosters left and right in short order. I'm not entirely sure he cares about basketball and could can easily see him retaining Barnes. Why they hired that ASU dipshit is beyond me.
Pastner isn't happening.
Texas would be absolutely nuts to pass on Archie and I'd think Sean and Calipari would both tell him to take that job. It would certainly be a better landing spot than NCSU or any other ACC job not named Duke/UNC.
The problem at Texas is that Steve Patterson is a complete fucktard who has managed to piss off boosters left and right in short order. I'm not entirely sure he cares about basketball and could can easily see him retaining Barnes. Why they hired that ASU dipshit is beyond me.
Pastner isn't happening.
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A smart AD at a place like Texas will realize that with certain things in place that program can recruit itself. So the question they should be asking themselves is, "Can this guy coach?" I would say with Pastner the jury is still out but they're leaning towards execution.Reydituto wrote:I don't, not with his Texas (and now Memphis) recruiting connections. This has been a tough season as far as personnel, injuries, distractions, but overall I think he's done a decent job at Memphis, their expectations are just so high as a residue of the Calipari era and prior Final Fours in the 70's and 80's. Although another couple of relatively mediocre seasons like this one (17-12 [9-7]) and he's more likely to be looking for work instead of being sought out for bigger jobs.Chicat wrote:Right now I feel like Pastner is unhireable at a major D1 program.
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Well said.the real dill wrote:I'm not sure the Pastner family would get a clean slate with the Patterson regime, but they weren't welome around the 40 acres for a long time. I'm sure there are still a lot of people in Belmont that would be very resistant to doing business with them.
Yeah, there's that to be sure. Without knowing all of that "inside baseball", on the surface, doesn't Pastner seem like a good fit at UT? 37 years old, wins 72% of his games, 2 regular season conference titles and 3 conference tournament titles in his 6th year, always in the post-season (4 NCAA bids, 1 NIT, then whatever happens this year). He's a very good recruiter as well, and obviously knows the state. Would seem to tick a lot of the boxes off.
I would agree with Chicat that he may not be the best "coach" per se, and maybe that alone makes him a bad fit at UT considering that I don't think Barnes is a good "coach" either.
Maybe Buzz Peterson is in play still, not like Virginia Tech (what a strange move that was) holds any advantages over UT aside from confernece affiliation (which in their case I think is a negative).
I think you are underestimating the allure of staying in the East to that particular family unit. I think Sean & Amy took to Tucson better than his sibling and his in-laws.ZONACAT wrote:Archie received promotions each time he left the state of Arizona, it isn't like he took the Ohio State and Dayton jobs solely because Morgan hated the desert. Arizona is weird to everyone the first few years and usually after that you are sucked in. I think Sean and Amy went through that adjustment period but would be hard pressed to leave now.
Texas would be absolutely nuts to pass on Archie and I'd think Sean and Calipari would both tell him to take that job. It would certainly be a better landing spot than NCSU or any other ACC job not named Duke/UNC.
The problem at Texas is that Steve Patterson is a complete fucktard who has managed to piss off boosters left and right in short order. I'm not entirely sure he cares about basketball and could can easily see him retaining Barnes. Why they hired that ASU dipshit is beyond me.
Pastner isn't happening.
I agree with just about everything else you said, except that I'm not convinced Archie's inner circle would advocate for that UT job like Cal did for UA. Patterson was a fucktard at ASU, which is why I thought that hiring was awful at the time.
I know Pastner isn't happening at UT, but I thought the discussion was worthy.
Sure. I'm not convinced he's a really good "Xs & Os" coach. But he's still only 37, and he's won a lot of games already. Forget the Texas gig for a moment, I don't see how he isn't a good coaching candidate for the right major conference job. Not a Top 10 program mind you, but a Top 25-30 program - even as it can be argued he's already at a Top 30 program with Memphis. This year has also been his worst year, and his team is still 17-12 with a chance at an NIT berth if they don't win the AAC tourney.Chicat wrote:A smart AD at a place like Texas will realize that with certain things in place that program can recruit itself. So the question they should be asking themselves is, "Can this guy coach?" I would say with Pastner the jury is still out but they're leaning towards execution.
If I were him, I wouldn't leave Memphis unless the right job opened up, and would stay as long as they would have me. It's a sweet gig. But I do think he'd do well at programs like LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Oklahoma St, Oklahoma, Missouri, Illinois, Tennessee and that ilk.
But in my book, you gotta get to White Castle before the weirdos show up!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
Tonight he gets Happy-Go-Jackie on the big white guy like a donkey eating a waffle!
Sweet Sassy Molassey, get out the checkbook and pay Grandma for the rubdown!
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I have a hard time believing that Archie and Morgan would be adverse to living in Austin. That is a very, very short list. I am curious where Archie ends up, he will be offered jobs every spring and has already turned down Wake.
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Crean got his public vote of confidence today. I bet they wait one more year, where his buyout is reduced by 5 more years, and makes it easier to make a run after Stevens
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Just is insane that Indiana fans are ok with going to the tournament two maybe 3 times in 7 years
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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No one on this list will even consider the Texas job.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
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http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/64621444/azcat34 wrote:No one on this list will even consider the Texas job.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
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the real dill wrote:http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/64621444/azcat34 wrote:No one on this list will even consider the Texas job.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
Really Dill? UCLA 3 spots ahead of Arizona?
Little dated: 25. UNLV Runnin' Rebels. Having Tark still attending the games
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2013 was a lifetime ago.
Texas should try to woo Mark Gottfried.
Texas should try to woo Mark Gottfried.
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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For the record, I think Texas is closer to 15 than 7, but unlimited resources, a new arena is being built, second to none weight and practice facility, and a fertile recruiting base is nothing to blink at. I don't think Texas will try to money whip a candidate, but $3.5 to $4M would be no problem with the BOR. It's not like I'm suggesting Cal, Self, or big Miller.Merkin wrote:the real dill wrote:http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/64621444/azcat34 wrote:No one on this list will even consider the Texas job.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
Really Dill? UCLA 3 spots ahead of Arizona?
Little dated: 25. UNLV Runnin' Rebels. Having Tark still attending the games
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Texas shouldn't have any trouble getting whoever the hell they want.
Unlimited money and resources, excellent academics, incredible sports tradition, access to recruits, phenomenal weather and an awesome city to live in, and besides Kansas, not too much to compete with in conference.
The sky is the limit with Texas. Rick Barnes was a below average coach. The right guy in this position would own the region for a very long time.
EDIT: And as bad as Texas has been for the past decade... They still are one of the most profitable basketball programs in the country. Not far behind Arizona. Imagine what they would do with the right coach.
Unlimited money and resources, excellent academics, incredible sports tradition, access to recruits, phenomenal weather and an awesome city to live in, and besides Kansas, not too much to compete with in conference.
The sky is the limit with Texas. Rick Barnes was a below average coach. The right guy in this position would own the region for a very long time.
EDIT: And as bad as Texas has been for the past decade... They still are one of the most profitable basketball programs in the country. Not far behind Arizona. Imagine what they would do with the right coach.
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Howland wanted to leave UCLA for DePaul??
Of the 12 coaches, Rush picked the one whose fans have the deepest passion, the longest memories, the greatest lung capacity and … did I mention deep passion?
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So in 2010, just two years removed from back to back to back final fours and conference titles...Howland and DePaul had mutual interest?
Imagine Miller talking to Mississippi state or Florida state about their basketball jobs right now.
Imagine Miller talking to Mississippi state or Florida state about their basketball jobs right now.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Texas has resources, but basketball guys don't like to be the afterthought to football.the real dill wrote:http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/64621444/azcat34 wrote:No one on this list will even consider the Texas job.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
Shaka is a pipe dream, waiting for LVille/UF/perhaps UNC.
Wright is beloved at Nova, turned down tons of great jobs -- no chance he punts it all for Texas.
Larry K could potentially listen I guess, but Utah has actually had a decent basketball past and now that they are in the Pac-12 they are on pretty stable ground. Don't think Texas is the job that pulls him away.
Archie no way, will be able to go pretty much anywhere after what he's done at Dayton. Don't see him at a football-first school.
Gregg Marshall is tough to figure, he could take the jump with a lot of his team leaving after this year. I would say out of this list this is by far Texas' best shot. Could be time for him to take the jump.
Overall though it is very hard to pry coaches away anymore, I don't think anyone on this list is Texas' next coach and wouldn't even surprise me if Barnes is back. Texas is pretty apathetic to basketball, so I don't see them urgent to replace Barnes.
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Texas could easily get almost anyone they want...azcat34 wrote:Texas has resources, but basketball guys don't like to be the afterthought to football.the real dill wrote:http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/64621444/azcat34 wrote:No one on this list will even consider the Texas job.the real dill wrote:Who replaces Barnes?
My early wish list:
Shaka Smart
Gregg Marshall
Jay Wright
Larry Krystkowiak
Archie Miller
Shaka is a pipe dream, waiting for LVille/UF/perhaps UNC.
Wright is beloved at Nova, turned down tons of great jobs -- no chance he punts it all for Texas.
Larry K could potentially listen I guess, but Utah has actually had a decent basketball past and now that they are in the Pac-12 they are on pretty stable ground. Don't think Texas is the job that pulls him away.
Archie no way, will be able to go pretty much anywhere after what he's done at Dayton. Don't see him at a football-first school.
Gregg Marshall is tough to figure, he could take the jump with a lot of his team leaving after this year. I would say out of this list this is by far Texas' best shot. Could be time for him to take the jump.
Overall though it is very hard to pry coaches away anymore, I don't think anyone on this list is Texas' next coach and wouldn't even surprise me if Barnes is back. Texas is pretty apathetic to basketball, so I don't see them urgent to replace Barnes.
There's no expectations there, tons of money and resources, and it's in one of the best cities in the country.
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Could doesn't mean will. They won't get anyone they want.
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
i'll just go with fuck asu.
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They could easily double the salary of any of the five guys Dill mentioned.ASUHATER! wrote:Could doesn't mean will. They won't get anyone they want.
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Could . . . but I highly doubt they will. It's just not that important to them from a revenue standpoint.
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He was exploring it when things were headed south for him at UCLA.Chicat wrote: Howland wanted to leave UCLA for DePaul??
But since he's going to settle for UNLV now, lol @ Ben Howland
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It makes some sense since he was coming off a losing season, but less sense with a top-10 recruiting class coming in, and even less sense when you consider that he was GOING TO LEAVE UCLA FOR DEPAUL!Longhorned wrote:He was exploring it when things were headed south for him at UCLA.Chicat wrote: Howland wanted to leave UCLA for DePaul??
But since he's going to settle for UNLV now, lol @ Ben Howland
If that isn't an indictment of the culture surrounding UCLA basketball for years now, I don't know what is...
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You would think the same about UCLA.Salty wrote:
Texas could easily get almost anyone they want...
There's no expectations there, tons of money and resources, and it's in one of the best cities in the country.