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SF threw a bomb late to Sanders who was open that would have put the game away.

Jimmy G just overthrew it. Nothing conservative there.
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PieceOfMeat wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Andy Reid is a perfect example for the Sean Miller detractors to pump the breaks. Not a Chief’s fan but how could you not be happy for the guy.
that comparison would work better if miller had 4 final four appearances and a national championship game loss by this point in his career.
That comparison would also work better if Andy Reid coached in a sport where he had to pretty much reset his roster every god damn year.
Or if andy reid only signed players who didnt fit his system and were only going to stay one year..... ;)

^that's a joke people, don't go nuts
Maybe the fact that they are all free agents allows them to leave......
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PieceOfMeat wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Andy Reid is a perfect example for the Sean Miller detractors to pump the breaks. Not a Chief’s fan but how could you not be happy for the guy.
that comparison would work better if miller had 4 final four appearances and a national championship game loss by this point in his career.
That's a good juxtaposition. Can't see any similarity between Miller and Reid except they're both fat.
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of note for reference:

there are 32 NFL Football Franchises

there are 347 Division 1 Men's Basketball Programs
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97cats wrote:of note for reference:

there are 32 NFL Football Franchises

there are 347 Division 1 Men's Basketball Programs
'85 Bears
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I've been patiently waiting to update these dates!
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As someone who grew up in Michigan, and went to school at the U of A, I wonder if I will ever see either of these?:

1. Detroit Lions in the Super Bowl
2. Arizona Wildcats in the Rose Bowl

Not even looking to a win, just an appearance!

Now that I am in my 60's, not counting on either.
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Merkin wrote:As someone who grew up in Michigan, and went to school at the U of A, I wonder if I will ever see either of these?:

1. Detroit Lions in the Super Bowl
2. Arizona Wildcats in the Rose Bowl

Not even looking to a win, just an appearance!

Now that I am in my 60's, not counting on either.
Amazing, Merk. I was born in Detroit, but my folks moved to L.A. before I was a year old. I'm a fellow long-suffering Lions fan. I'd say Lions getting to the SB is likely to happen sooner than AZ to a RB.
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I grew up north of Lansing and now live in the UP.
Grandparents lived in Tucson in the winters.
I got to become a packer fan by living up here.
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U.P. Zona Fan wrote:I grew up north of Lansing and now live in the UP.
Grandparents lived in Tucson in the winters.
I got to become a packer fan by living up here.
People in the lower peninsula always considered those in the UP hardy folk.
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Merkin wrote:
U.P. Zona Fan wrote:I grew up north of Lansing and now live in the UP.
Grandparents lived in Tucson in the winters.
I got to become a packer fan by living up here.
People in the lower peninsula always considered those in the UP hardy folk.
Hardy is appropriate. Haven't UPers evolved gills to filter out the summer bugs, and snowshoe feet to manage the winter?
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Captain Obvious wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Andy Reid is a perfect example for the Sean Miller detractors to pump the breaks. Not a Chief’s fan but how could you not be happy for the guy.
that comparison would work better if miller had 4 final four appearances and a national championship game loss by this point in his career.
That's a good juxtaposition. Can't see any similarity between Miller and Reid except they're both fat.
I'm sure you are both fit, trim and smart yet have been able to hide all three effectively. :roll: :lol:
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TheCat wrote:
Captain Obvious wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Andy Reid is a perfect example for the Sean Miller detractors to pump the breaks. Not a Chief’s fan but how could you not be happy for the guy.
that comparison would work better if miller had 4 final four appearances and a national championship game loss by this point in his career.
That's a good juxtaposition. Can't see any similarity between Miller and Reid except they're both fat.
I'm sure you are both fit, trim and smart yet have been able to hide all three effectively. :roll: :lol:
That's a good job, yet again, showing you don't read.
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97cats wrote:+2 with six of its last ten at the Mckale Center
the Lute scoreboard. I like it
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400
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97cats wrote:400
Congrats Coach! Im glad hes a Wildcat.
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97cats wrote:400

THIS.

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Miller gets blamed for the losses but last night is a perfect example of the credit due for a win. Miller has a spotlight on him while trying to stretch every extended minute from an inexperienced and exhausted point guard, without whom everything on the floor falls apart. Miller goes from dealing with a young team starting to ease up in practice from its recent success, to easing up and executing poorly down the stretch of a game it didn't put away.

"Whose fault is that?"

I don't know, but there's Miller sweating through every poor defensive possession giving up 60% shooting in the second half, and every one of those innumerable missed free throws.

Who gets credit for the win? And in a game I can't even bear to watch?

This guy, 4 times a hundred:

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Congrats, Coach!
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Longhorned wrote:Miller gets blamed for the losses but last night is a perfect example of the credit due for a win. Miller has a spotlight on him while trying to stretch every extended minute from an inexperienced and exhausted point guard, without whom everything on the floor falls apart. Miller goes from dealing with a young team starting to ease up in practice from its recent success, to easing up and executing poorly down the stretch of a game it didn't put away.

"Whose fault is that?"

I don't know, but there's Miller sweating through every poor defensive possession giving up 60% shooting in the second half, and every one of those innumerable missed free throws.

Who gets credit for the win? And in a game I can't even bear to watch?

This guy, 4 times a hundred:

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This.

When you look at the box score you gotta wonder how the cats pulled it off, it seems they were doing everything they could to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

USC shooting %50
UA shooting %45

We only got 4 more rebounds and 1 more assist...HOWEVER:

We did have 9 less fouls (which is like 33%) and 6 less turnovers (50%) than they did...

So not fouling and taking care of the ball, which was the lesson from about 2 weeks ago that Miller was harping on...this in spite of PAC 12 refs calling charges on Nico that were clearly flops by USC...

This win is clearly in the Miller column and most people who want him gone don't give a rats ass, but here we are...he's doing everything he can to put these guys in a position to go as far as they can and win against really good teams...and mark my words USC is a contender they have some really skilled players and experience, they're gonna cause some noise in the tourney.
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Miller would still be starting weird shorts guy if not for an unfortunate injury, so dont go overboad, fanboys. Miller still is a micromanager who winds his teams tight in the biggest games.

Ill credit Miller for something: finally realizing that high level players want to play in transition more and play less weave-n-heave miller half court offense.

“We’re better in transition”
You dont say? Lol
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We really need to reconfigure the board to display IP addresses of all posters. It would tend to clear up socks/double posters and sort out a lot of crap on the board.
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dmjcat wrote:We really need to reconfigure the board to display IP addresses of all posters. It would tend to clear up socks/double posters and sort out a lot of crap on the board.
In all seriousness, send me or UADevil a PM if you have a concern about posters having multiple accounts. Let us know who they are and we can take action if there is a problem.
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RiseAndFire wrote:Miller would still be starting weird shorts guy if not for an unfortunate injury, so dont go overboad, fanboys. Miller still is a micromanager who winds his teams tight in the biggest games.

Ill credit Miller for something: finally realizing that high level players want to play in transition more and play less weave-n-heave miller half court offense.

“We’re better in transition”
You dont say? Lol
You're the worst type of fan. In fact, I'd argue you aren't an Arizona fan but just an idiot troll. Or maybe just an idiot. Anyway, your argument regarding Jeter is just the type of bullshit, hindsight crap of a typically ignorant fan.

You do understand that Stone Gettings was out an entire month because of a facial fracture? That negated any attempt by Miller to leverage better production from Jeter. (I'm sorry, but Christian Koloko, while showing promise, also has huge holes to his game). So yes, Jeter was playing more than his production justified. After missing a month of action, it naturally has taken Gettings some time to get acclimated. Jeter, while injury prone, has been healthy enough to play. And Miller finally has the leverage to go with the guys that give him the best opportunity to win. You fail to recognize that not all players are created equal. Some shoot it better, rebound it better, defend it better, etc... Miller has to pick which skill set according to game situation, opponent, etc... And sometimes some players are given the opportunity to acquit themselves on defense (Hazzard, Baker) and when they aren't getting the job done the coach has to go to a player (Smith) who defends well but is a liability in other areas. If you're paying attention, Miller is making some great adjustments. These aren't perfect players. Everyone has some flaws. And sometimes the opponent has good players too.
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Okay! Okay! I'm dovecanyoncat's sock. Can you deal with that?
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97cats wrote:400
400! Nice milestone for Miller and I'm truly happy for him. I still remember Lute's 500th win. What an ending!
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I did it faster than 24 or so guys ever. What people don't understand is that his winning % his also VERY High and higher than Lute's was. I think he's schedule needs to improve a bit but so far this year we have played the #1 and #2 teams.

Rise and Fire is just a trolling douche.
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Longhorned wrote:Okay! Okay! I'm dovecanyoncat's sock. Can you deal with that?
only if you can tell me where dove canyon is
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baycat93 wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Okay! Okay! I'm dovecanyoncat's sock. Can you deal with that?
only if you can tell me where dove canyon is
It's that mythical place where all lost socks end up.....(It's akin the car interior's blackhole between the seat and the center console.).....except for LH's sock, no matter how many times I lose it it just keeps turning up.
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Dove Canyon is in Orange county California
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Dove Canyon is my stripper name.
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84Cat wrote:Dove Canyon is in Orange county California
I'm sure there are many. But for the record, so we can all go looking for LH's sock (it won't be there) my Dove Canyon drains south out of the Tortolitas.
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84Cat wrote:Dove Canyon is in Orange county California
Nope. It's in far NW Tucson and is where the Ritz Carlton resort is
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Alieberman wrote:Dove Canyon is my stripper name.
Mine is Ari Lieberman.

It’s a panty-dropper.
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Longhorned wrote:Okay! Okay! I'm dovecanyoncat's sock. Can you deal with that?
NO, I'M dovecanyoncat's sock.
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Dove Canyon is the name of my Right Said Fred cover band
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Will the real Dovecanyon Sock, Please Stan’s up?


I’m guessing Merkin may be the only one elderly enough to get that reference
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Postmaster wrote:Will the real Dovecanyon Sock, Please Stan’s up?


I’m guessing Merkin may be the only one elderly enough to get that reference
I'm willing to bet Merkin and I have the same birth years. I'd go two or three bucks easy.
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I graduated in 84 obviously. I used to watch to tell the truth occasionally so I got the reference
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Does anybody remember the first year of Laugh-In? Didn't think so.
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dovecanyoncat wrote:Does anybody remember the first year of Laugh-In? Didn't think so.

Used to watch it with my dad. First season I was only 4 though.
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I want my MTV!
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dovecanyoncat wrote:Does anybody remember the first year of Laugh-In? Didn't think so.
Sock it to me - Richard Nixon

Might not have been the first year.

Goldie Hawn what a cutie!
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Merkin wrote:
dovecanyoncat wrote:Does anybody remember the first year of Laugh-In? Didn't think so.
Sock it to me - Richard Nixon

Might not have been the first year.

Goldie Hawn what a cutie!

"Very interesting"
Artie passed not to long ago.

IIR it was our first color TV: pulsing strange, garish, wondrous and splashy as a drunken cocktail dress. Beatles cartoons. And then next year the goddamn Jets beat the best team in pro football. No one weighed more than Bubba then, and now every OLineman on Alabama does.
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Great weave-n-heave offense tonight featuring the most unclutch - and untouchable player going ofer . Add in the same predictable 1-dimensional defense since 2010 and you get mini Marley carving it up like butter

Sign that man to another extension says zonagrad! LOL
Heeke and Robbins better be prepared to pull that string after 1st round loss. Sick of this garbage
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RiseAndFire wrote:Great weave-n-heave offense tonight featuring the most unclutch - and untouchable player going ofer . Add in the same predictable 1-dimensional defense since 2010 and you get mini Marley carving it up like butter

Sign that man to another extension says zonagrad! LOL
Heeke and Robbins better be prepared to pull that string after 1st round loss. Sick of this garbage
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Getting his players ready for the NCAAs
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eoe wrote:
TatetheGreat wrote:
CalStateTempe wrote:What’s the rumor someone dropped in the i game thread last night about nico going Italy after the season?
I meant he could end up there if it doesn't work in the NBA. He's probably a career backup at best. He has good vision but not elite quickness or explosiveness, and his jumper is clunky and doesn't go in enough. Not to mention defense. I'm pretty certain he's OAD regardless since the draft is quite weak.
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Mannion's true shooting percentage is 56.23% and is that high despite being in an offense that is limiting to him (as most any college offense would be)

He will only improve with age and increased spacing at the next level. He's a great example of a player with game tailor made for the NBA vs. college. If you watch and think otherwise, your confirmation bias is showing

It’s a weak draft so if he’s 1R he should probably bolt. But I’m not sure how good his O game will translate to the L. He should do ok as he will put stress on D w PnR but his jumper is clunky and slow and streaky, his passing is good sometimes but sometimes he’s a TO machine, and he’s going to get bodied up a lot and he doesn’t handle it well.

One thing i do know, however, is he will get absolutely abused on D in the L. Like worse than Trae Young and he’s nowhere near the instant offense Trae is. If i were a GM i wouldn’t even consider him til bottom of 1st round. I’d take either pg from Tobacco Road before him and a few others i think. Honestly all 3 of our frosh run the risk of washing out of the nba if they leave after year. They all have to improve tremendously if they want to stick. But again, this draft is historically weak. Like Stromile Swift going 2nd weak, so they should all probably leave if they get 1R guarantees.
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Beachcat97 wrote:
Merkin wrote:As someone who grew up in Michigan, and went to school at the U of A, I wonder if I will ever see either of these?:

1. Detroit Lions in the Super Bowl
2. Arizona Wildcats in the Rose Bowl

Not even looking to a win, just an appearance!

Now that I am in my 60's, not counting on either.
Amazing, Merk. I was born in Detroit, but my folks moved to L.A. before I was a year old. I'm a fellow long-suffering Lions fan. I'd say Lions getting to the SB is likely to happen sooner than AZ to a RB.

I’m also a Lions fan. It’s terrible. I just want a 2nd playoff win in my lifetime and I’ll be happy tbh.
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Miller already said Nico’s OAD, so we can probably let go of any hope he’ll play another year of college ball. This is part of why Akinjo chose AZ.

As for Miller, my main gripe over the last few seasons is that the team doesn’t seem to improve over the course of the season. Maybe individual players show growth, but the team as a whole continues to struggle in the same ways they did back in December.

Anyway, not sure if his job is realistically in jeopardy (I’m guessing it isn’t), but it’s going to be a long summer.
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