Bear Down Wildcats

splitsecond wrote: If RichRod does leave, it's because he has decided he can't recruit here or is too lazy to figure out how to beat out other Pac schools in recruiting. If that's the case, then that means he can't do the job he was hired to do. People are bringing up this bullshit yet again about football not coming first, when it is abundantly clear that Greg Byrne knows the value of football and make it first rate here, if not most important.

cordera89 wrote:

Merkin wrote:

UAdevil wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

CalStateTempe wrote:RR to Castell before the 'SC game: "we're going to VT so try not to make the 3-3-5 look like garbage tonight, m'kay?"

Castell: "Gotcha Rich, will do"

That bullshit.

That was a joke. Lighten up man.

I don't think Cordera89's first language is English. Not the first time a joke went over his head.

Merkin just shoot your ahead ok if you really want to go their, I don't care if it was a joke or not. It BS to make fun our coaches. I mean how funny would it been if Casteel and Kir would of said we don't like to recruit in Arizona? Do you want paint that as a joke.

ztonyg wrote:Rich Rod is doing NOTHING to put out these flames.

The best thing, I believe, at this point for the this season and the future would be for Rich Rod to either announce he's going (and name an interim coach for the rest of the season) or for him to announce he's staying.

pc in NM wrote:It seems to me that the only reasonable questions that RichRod is likely to be asking are:

1. What is the best career step for me as a football coach?

2. What will be best for me and my family?

And, I think that staying at Arizona is a debatable prospect on each of these questions.

I hope he stays. But, a decision to move to any of those other jobs wouldn't be too difficult to understand....

Merkin wrote:The first denial.

Newportcat wrote:I hate the fact our program typically sucks but unlike you DC I recognize that if you do not recruit talented players constantly you typically are not going to be good constantly no matter the coaching.

I used to be called Johnny optimist but after being a fan long enough of Arizona football you realize that it is a hard job, tough to recruit too, and bad things typically happen to us because we never recruit anywhere close to what we recruit at for other sports at U of A.

I am incredibly optimistic about Arizona baseball because we have a history of winning, great facilities, and most importantly we can recruit great players. Our new coach brought in a Top 20 recruiting class his first year here. Think how amazing that is and thats with like 4-5 guys declaring for the draft.

I am just realistic I guess and I do find it interesting/funny when fans like you think differently because the hard evidence seems to me so overwhelming in my favor of being a half glass empty type fan.

Just me

Catstatic wrote:There is something about the sport of football that produces incredible optimism each year. Then the games start and reality sets in. I know the golden ring for everyone at Arizona is reaching the Rose Bowl. If the College Football Playoffs had started this year and not last year, we make the Rose Bowl last year! It seems like even when we win, we lose out on the Rose Bowl at Arizona. I have made peace with that. Law of averages says we will make it some year. Be great if it happens in my lifetime.

This year's injuries is what puts an asterisk on the entire season. No team could have survived the injuries we have seen this year. People mention it in passing, but the numbers are truly staggering. I don't see any other way that RR could play it, because to talk about it too much gives your players a sense of hopelessness. It is what it is, and I am very proud of the way the Cats played at USC.

We need a good coach who keeps his passion and stays. I know RR felt he had something to prove after being fired at Michigan, but that motivation does not last. If he stays I believe he will have to address the defensive issues. I also think he will bring long-term success and get us to the Rose Bowl. But it ain't easy. One thing that is patently clear: He despises losing. That is a good thing in a football coach.

Go Cats!!

Gimino wrote:Here is that 1993 starters list on defense....

dc4azcats wrote:

Newportcat wrote:I hate the fact our program typically sucks but unlike you DC I recognize that if you do not recruit talented players constantly you typically are not going to be good constantly no matter the coaching.

I used to be called Johnny optimist but after being a fan long enough of Arizona football you realize that it is a hard job, tough to recruit too, and bad things typically happen to us because we never recruit anywhere close to what we recruit at for other sports at U of A.

I am incredibly optimistic about Arizona baseball because we have a history of winning, great facilities, and most importantly we can recruit great players. Our new coach brought in a Top 20 recruiting class his first year here. Think how amazing that is and thats with like 4-5 guys declaring for the draft.

I am just realistic I guess and I do find it interesting/funny when fans like you think differently because the hard evidence seems to me so overwhelming in my favor of being a half glass empty type fan.

Just me

So now we're comparing baseball to football? Baseball, much like Basketball allows coaches to go out and watch kids play games all day at different tournaments all over the country and all of those tournaments don't coincide with your own season. So the ability to evaluate with your eyes and see first hand is something that football coaches don't get the benefit of. It's apples and oranges but by all means please compare the sports as if everything is the same. In both basketball and Baseball, coaches can go sit in the bleachers at one location in a lot of cases and watch a plethora of players compete against each other. They can spend a whole weekend watching every top prospect in the State, region and even the country depending on the tournament. Where can you do that in football? It's one game on a Friday night and in some cases it might just be ONE player that night.

Funny how nobody has said what would've happened if Bell, Polk and Sprotte had all been injured in '98 which was deep into Tomey's tenure at Arizona but 4 years into RR's tenure and it's because we don't recruit talented players? Got it.

Merkin wrote:Hansen weighs in...

http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank

Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?

A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:

1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”

2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”

3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.

4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.

5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.

6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.

7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.

Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:

1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.

Sid wrote:

Merkin wrote:Hansen weighs in...

http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank

Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?

A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:

1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”

2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”

3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.

4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.

5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.

6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.

7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.

Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:

1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.

Let me help him out.
3. Rich Rod is a fierce competitor and knows deep down he can compete for a natty at the UofA.
4. He has one of the best AD's in the land and that AD gave him a 2nd chance to get back into coaching. Rich Rod feels he owes Greg and will do everything he can to right this ship & start competing for championships.
5. You're a freaking tool Hansen!

Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.

cpt wrote:So glad we tore up the best natural turf field in the country for this guy.

cpt wrote:So glad we tore up the best natural turf field in the country for this guy.

PHXCATS wrote:No matter what it seems like RR is going east in the next few years. The real question is who is the best replacement that will come to UA for the right price and when will he be able to move. Lots of movement to take place this winter, but will the next year or two be better?

splitsecond wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:No matter what it seems like RR is going east in the next few years. The real question is who is the best replacement that will come to UA for the right price and when will he be able to move. Lots of movement to take place this winter, but will the next year or two be better?

No matter what huh?

Merkin wrote:RR should have Casteel be Hansen's new tennis buddy.

Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.

I agree 100%. Just hope that finally realizes that gimmicky and obsolete defenses don't last. Look how long Rich Ellerson tried to push the double eagle flex since it's heyday in Desert Swarm. Once OCs figure out how to beat a certain defense it's over. Same with offenses too.

RR is 1-7 vs. LA, 1-2 vs. ASU, and in his past life was 0-3 vs. tOSU and 0-3 vs. MSU.


also from Hansen:

Dear Mr. Football: What does Arizona have in common with Ernest Hemingway’s classic book “The Sun Also Rises”?


A. One of the most-quoted lines in Hemingway’s book is this:

“How did you go bankrupt?”

“Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”

That should be the working theme for Arizona’s 2015 football season. The Wildcats thought they made a significant deposit by winning at Nevada. But since that game, the Wolf Pack lost to 1-8 Wyoming and 2-6 UNLV, two of the worst teams in college football.

That opening victory over UTSA? The Roadrunners are 1-7.

The UA’s September checks bounced.

azgreg wrote:Hater has spoken everybody. Move along now.

ASUHATER! wrote:Jesus people it's grass. Most good programs don't have it anymore. It's grass...move on.

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Jesus people it's grass. Most good programs don't have it anymore. It's grass...move on.

Notable programs using grass surfaces: Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Florida, Florida State, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Georgia, Tennessee, TCU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, USC, UCLA,

Notable programs using field turf: Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oregon, Washington.

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:Jesus people it's grass. Most good programs don't have it anymore. It's grass...move on.

Notable programs using grass surfaces: Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Florida, Florida State, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Georgia, Tennessee, TCU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, USC, UCLA,

Notable programs using field turf: Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Oregon, Washington.

Sid wrote:

Merkin wrote:Hansen weighs in...

http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank

Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?

A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:

1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”

2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”

3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.

4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.

5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.

6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.

7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.

Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:

1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.

Let me help him out.
3. Rich Rod is a fierce competitor and knows deep down he can compete for a natty at the UofA.
4. He has one of the best AD's in the land and that AD gave him a 2nd chance to get back into coaching. Rich Rod feels he owes Greg and will do everything he can to right this ship & start competing for championships.
5. You're a freaking tool Hansen!

Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.

Sid wrote:

Merkin wrote:RR should have Casteel be Hansen's new tennis buddy.

Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.

I agree 100%. Just hope that finally realizes that gimmicky and obsolete defenses don't last. Look how long Rich Ellerson tried to push the double eagle flex since it's heyday in Desert Swarm. Once OCs figure out how to beat a certain defense it's over. Same with offenses too.

RR is 1-7 vs. LA, 1-2 vs. ASU, and in his past life was 0-3 vs. tOSU and 0-3 vs. MSU.


also from Hansen:

Dear Mr. Football: What does Arizona have in common with Ernest Hemingway’s classic book “The Sun Also Rises”?


A. One of the most-quoted lines in Hemingway’s book is this:

“How did you go bankrupt?”

“Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”

That should be the working theme for Arizona’s 2015 football season. The Wildcats thought they made a significant deposit by winning at Nevada. But since that game, the Wolf Pack lost to 1-8 Wyoming and 2-6 UNLV, two of the worst teams in college football.

That opening victory over UTSA? The Roadrunners are 1-7.

The UA’s September checks bounced.

You know what bounced? Anu's freaking head between (2) ruin defensive players. The entire world knows this past weekend was the 1st game that he's been right, Who cares about our non-conf games & whom they've played since? Hansen can go suck a dick!

Has he written anything positive post the sc game? Any mention of de Beer starting on the OLine? Oh, and how about that stud making a one-handed tackle while being on the ground no less & the kid running the rock that got stoned was just a 5* recruit out of HS to boot, no biggie......

After we beat Utah I hope to God Rich Rod ignores Hansen in the presser.

cordera89 wrote:

Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.

Chi wasn't a second ago you couldn't decide if you want RR to stay or go.

Chicat wrote:

cordera89 wrote:

Chicat wrote:I really really hope RichRod stays. I just don't think we're going to do better, at least on the offensive side of the ball.

Chi wasn't a second ago you couldn't decide if you want RR to stay or go.

I don't remember wavering on whether I want him to stay or go.

cordera89 wrote:Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.

1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.

Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank

Do yawl agree with this.

ramcat wrote:

cordera89 wrote:Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.

1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.

Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank

Do yawl agree with this.

Absolutely not. 3, has some merit but 1and 2, no. Assuming V Tech is where he were to go, Nat. Championship will not be easier out of coastal ACC division. It's practically the minor leagues compared to Pac 12 south.
, he will not get appreciably better classes to Blacksburg, VA.

I want him to stay and finish the job too. Does he really want the answer to his question, "why not AZ", be cause he was a quitter?! Not to mention, that leaving now would could hardly be looked at as being, "Hard Edge". Quitting instead of finishing.

Fraud Graham, would be overtaken by Rich Fraudriguez.

Hoping this all BS!! Please!!

ramcat wrote:

cordera89 wrote:Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.

1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.

Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank

Do yawl agree with this.

Absolutely not. 3, has some merit but 1and 2, no. Assuming V Tech is where he were to go, Nat. Championship will not be easier out of coastal ACC division. It's practically the minor leagues compared to Pac 12 south.
, he will not get appreciably better classes to Blacksburg, VA.

I want him to stay and finish the job too. Does he really want the answer to his question, "why not AZ", be cause he was a quitter?! Not to mention, that leaving now would could hardly be looked at as being, "Hard Edge". Quitting instead of finishing.

Fraud Graham, would be overtaken by Rich Fraudriguez.

Hoping this all BS!! Please!!

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

ramcat wrote:

cordera89 wrote:Well another dumb article about more reason of why RR will leave Arizona.

1. He won't win a championship in Tucson
2. More fertile recruiting ground
3. Fewer night games.

Here the article: http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-blog ... a-wildcats" target="_blank

Do yawl agree with this.

Absolutely not. 3, has some merit but 1and 2, no. Assuming V Tech is where he were to go, Nat. Championship will not be easier out of coastal ACC division. It's practically the minor leagues compared to Pac 12 south.
, he will not get appreciably better classes to Blacksburg, VA.

I want him to stay and finish the job too. Does he really want the answer to his question, "why not AZ", be cause he was a quitter?! Not to mention, that leaving now would could hardly be looked at as being, "Hard Edge". Quitting instead of finishing.

Fraud Graham, would be overtaken by Rich Fraudriguez.

Hoping this all BS!! Please!!

Winning a NC would be much easier in the ACC. You go undefeated in the ACC, which is much easier to do than the PAC 12, you are getting invited to the playoff. Also, last I checked it is the ACC that produces the second most NFL talent to the SEC. So he would have a rich talent bed in an easier conference.

Merkin wrote:Hansen weighs in...

http://tucson.com/sports/columnists/han ... 43313.html" target="_blank

Dear Mr. Football: Are the odds really 7-to-2 that Rich Rodriguez leaves to become Virginia Tech’s coach?

A: Seven reasons RichRod might become the Hokies’ next coach:

1. It’s only 238 miles from RichRod’s home turf, Morgantown, West Virginia, to Blacksburg, Virginia. If you get a chance to go “home,” you usually go, even if it’s called “Gobbler Country.”

2. Sixty-nine players on Tech’s roster are from Virginia. As RichRod likes to say about recruiting in distant locales, “you don’t have to fly over a lot of good schools to get there.”

3. You don’t have to play or recruit against USC and UCLA every year. Tech’s opponents in the ACC’s ridiculously inviting Coastal Division are Duke, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Miami. That’s five basketball schools and a football school that hasn’t been good for a decade.

4. It’s not a tough act to follow. Outgoing coach Frank Beamer lost his touch about the moment RichRod was hired at Arizona. Tech’s last three bowl games have been the Military Bowl, Russell Athletic Bowl and Sun Bowl.

5. You don’t have to clean up the developing mess at Arizona; the Wildcats are almost sure to be picked last in the Pac-12 South next year.

6. You don’t have to wonder why so many seats in your stadium are empty. The Hokies drew 60,118 against Furman this year in 65,632-seat Lane Stadium and 63,257 against Duke.

7. Rather than buy a summer retreat in the mountains of Arizona or Colorado, RichRod bought one near the Georgia-South Carolina border.

Two reasons RichRod might stay in Tucson:

1, 2. His daughter is a sophomore cheerleader at the UA and his son is a junior quarterback at Catalina Foothills.