Conference Realignment

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:18 am

ASUHATER! wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:25 am Rumor that the Big 10 is reaching out to Oregon, UCLA, USC, Stanford, Kansas and TCU to join and make a 20 team league

Lol TCU?

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:20 am

Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:08 am Stanford isn’t going anywhere without Cal

You would think any conference would want Stanford + Cal just due to the academics. Maybe outside of the SEC anyway.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:57 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:20 am
Chicat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:08 am Stanford isn’t going anywhere without Cal
You would think any conference would want Stanford + Cal just due to the academics. Maybe outside of the SEC anyway.

Yeah, I’ll go out on a limb and say Stanford and Ol Miss will never be in the same conference.

And speaking of the SEC, I’m actually surprised they aren’t looking to shed some members with UT and OU coming on board. Does Mississippi State really bring all that much to the table besides home games where you can’t hear the announcers over the cowbells?

TheCatInTheHat · Post by **TheCatInTheHat** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:08 pm

Lots of rumors and speculation right now, but regardless of whose opinion is quoted, that's all it is at the moment. As far as Schulz talking to Wilner, my grain of salt suggestion is to change the names to Bobbie Robbins brainstorming with Greg Hansen and consider how that would be received by most readers. At this point, it sounds like one thing to come out of this latest iteration of college football's evolution is a possible arrangement with the Pac-12 and Big Ten for non-conference scheduling, whether home-and-home, or games in domed NFL stadia. I can't see elevating more MWC teams, or taking cast-offs from what Bill Walton has always called tank towns, but we'll see.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:38 pm

No truck stops.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:46 pm

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:29 am

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:46 pm

I know what's in this for the B1G and Pac12, but the ACC is a bit puzzling. For the B1G and the PAC the whole purpose is they want a big cash payout from FOX (or anybody else not named ESPN) in the next few years and FOX & Co. would be mighty mighty hesitant to pony up oodles of money for a product whose postseason would be 100% aired by another network. So the B1G and PAC want to ensure there's a postseason seat at the table for at least one other network. Maybe the ACC is ultimately afraid of being poached by the SEC in the future, so aligning with the PAC/B1G would give them some protection in that regard as they'd be one big voting block against the SEC?

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:28 pm

Or perhaps it is an attempt to prepare for the collapse of the NCAA?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:37 am

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:38 am

My guess is it will be a semi merging of the 3 conferences where they still keep their own conferences and divisions but there's some kind of revenue sharing and some kind of guaranteed out of conference scheduling where every team has two non-conference games against the other conferences every year. Maybe jointly bid on TV deals when they next come up

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:53 am

Number one agreement from this alliance should be to not schedule any games with the SEC until they start playing 9 conference games a year.

Just saying...

... I know, I know

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:07 am

#1 issue (in my humble opinion) is the expanded College Football Playoff. No Pac-12, B1G, or ACC school should sign on to the idea until those conferences can make sure that there aren’t a bunch of SEC sycophants on the committee. While certain people may want to see 7 SEC teams and 5 “others” in the playoff, the other conferences have to make sure there is equal representation.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:08 am

The AAC needs to add those remaining B12 schools ASAP.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:41 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:41 pm

UofAlum05 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:08 am The AAC needs to add those remaining B12 schools ASAP.

Or the other way around.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:18 pm

Can’t wait to play tOSU and Clemson…

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:20 pm

EastCoastCat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:18 pm Can’t wait to play tOSU and Clemson…

odds of that happening are pretty low actually since that doesn't bring the tv money eyeballs for advertisers. Most likely we'll be getting ooc matchups with Rutgers/Indiana/Wake Forest/Boston College

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:32 pm

It was a joke…

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:14 am

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:46 am

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:14 am

“Competition?? Oh no. That would be bad for… uh… the sport…”

- The SEC & ESPN

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:32 am

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:38 am

AZ vs North Carolina please

gronk4heisman · Post by **gronk4heisman** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:43 am

A mid season basketball tournament between the conferences would be amazing, split the 40 or some odd teams into three fields in Vegas, Chicago and NY. Sign me up!

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:24 pm

This could be awesome for AZ basketball. AZ will get great matchups

Football... we'll get the shit teams but who cares

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:37 pm

Those Lute era beat downs by UNC are still fresh in my mind. Miller canceled the series and said he wanted to reschedule once the UA became competitive again, which obviously never was resumed.

Don't think this team will be ready to take on the elites yet and the ACC is full of them.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:09 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:37 pm Those Lute era beat downs by UNC are still fresh in my mind. Miller canceled the series and said he wanted to reschedule once the UA became competitive again, which obviously never was resumed.

Don't think this team will be ready to take on the elites yet and the ACC is full of them.

Baylor finally getting Karma for murder and rape cover ups?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:15 pm

Why would the PAC want either KSU or ntOSU?

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:16 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:15 pm Why would the PAC want either KSU or ntOSU?

I'm sure the LA & SF schools are chomping at the bit to get a piece of that, checks notes, Manhattan, KS & Stillwater, OK TV Markets.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:18 pm

Manhattan TV market!

Wait, I'm being told it's Manhattan, Kansas.

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:22 pm

UAEebs86 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:18 pm Manhattan TV market!

Wait, I'm being told it's Manhattan, Kansas.

The Manhattan Beach TV Market would be more desirable than Manhattan, Kansas.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:25 pm

My team had to do a media plan recently for Manhattan and Salina Kansas. No one knew those places actually existed. When I mentioned that Kansas State was in Manhattan one girl said, “Wait, there’s another college in Kansas besides KU?”

I’d rather add UNLV and Fresno State if we’re just scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

scumdevils86 · Post by **scumdevils86** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:50 pm

Don't forget that it is pronounced "Suh-line-uh" not "Suh-lean-ah"!

I have deep Kansas and Missouri roots on both sides of my family

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:57 pm

That's hilarious Chi. One of the 1st places my parents lived after getting married was in Salina. Not much going on there for sure. Not a whole lot more going on in Manhattan either except for KSU. My cousin was the athletic director at KSU for a small time and stayed on for many years in the AD. Would be a lot like going to WSU as far as travel. Not sure what they would contribute to the PAC12.

I have deep Kansas & Nebraska roots so I know the area well & my in-laws are from Missouri

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:28 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:15 pm Why would the PAC want either KSU or ntOSU?

According to this "pundit", it's because they are tier 1 research institutions.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:41 pm

Well they are Tier 130 media markets. Not to mention that they are two time zones away from California, Oregon, Washington, and Arizona (half the year).

If this actually happens we’ll know that Kliavkoff’s background in entertainment doesn’t mean fuck-all.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:08 pm

I thought Kansas was the accredited university snd K State was not?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:12 pm

I know UNLV and Nevada brings the conference next to nothing but this hole in the PAC-12 map drives me fucking crazy.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:23 pm

Along with only 3 states touching the Pacific, unlike the old PAC-8 days when they all did.

During the heydays of UNLV basketball, they were a Tier 4 school and never an option. Looking now, they are ranked 258th.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/unlv-2569

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:33 pm

azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:12 pm I know UNLV and Nevada brings the conference next to nothing but this hole in the PAC-12 map drives me fucking crazy.

It brings us the Las Vegas TV market, which is top-40 and growing.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:51 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:33 pm It brings us the Las Vegas TV market, which is top-40 and growing.

What about Nevada Reno? Maybe San Diego St would make a travel partner for UNLV.

VegasCatFan · Post by **VegasCatFan** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:53 pm

Chicat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:33 pm
azgreg wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:12 pm I know UNLV and Nevada brings the conference next to nothing but this hole in the PAC-12 map drives me fucking crazy.

It brings us the Las Vegas TV market, which is top-40 and growing.

Personally, I’d love to see UNLV in the PAC. All their sports teams suck pretty bad right now but the market is pretty big. And as an academic institution they are pretty bad if I was able to get a degree from them.

And if UNLV could get in, why not San Diego St? Another poor academic institution but in a big market.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:22 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:55 pm

So the B-ACC-PAC?

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:58 pm

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:01 pm

MountainCat · Post by **MountainCat** » Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:53 pm

The Big PACC

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:04 pm

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:01 pm

Thank Jeebus.

KSU and ntOSU can continue to rot in the ash heap of the Big12.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:48 pm

If you make two adds maybe UNLV and Houston. Houston is a tier one or one of those AAU schools academically and then add UNLV. Two decent TV markets. The PAC already controls the San Diego market place so adding them doesn’t really add anything

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:48 pm

Does this mean no more FCS games?

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