Bear Down Wildcats

ND gagging a little bit in their game, but there's no way they completely choke.

F$U is going to completely roll ND next week.

that didnt look like roughing the snapper to me. guess the refs have some cash on ND

Magic of the Irish makes homer calls at Autzen look fair.

Seriously the amount of pull refs give the Irish in South Bend is in another level.

PieceOfMeat wrote:I really wouldn't mind if ND choked at home

I would, along with several other posters.

azgreg wrote: OSUCat - (Old Dominion, California, Florida, Arizona, TCU, Ole Miss) Florida St
UAEebs86 - (E Carolina, Rutgers, Notre Dame, N Carolina St, TCU, Marshall) Arizona
CatnapTom - (Purdue, Arizona St, Oregon, N Carolina St, TCU) Notre Dame
Merkin - (N Carolina St, Arizona St, Baylor, Penn St, TCU, Marshall) Notre Dame
carcassdragger - (Arizona, Arizona St, Ole Miss, Washington, TCU, Marshall) Florida St
NYCat - (Akron, Louisiana-Monroe, Marshall, N Carolina St, TCU, Baylor) Notre Dame
dc4azcats - (Utah, California, Mississippi St, Washington, TCU, Marshall) Notre Dame

Miss St. just beat 3 top top teams in a row.

They should be the unanimous #1 team.

They are for real.

Alieberman wrote:Miss St. just beat 3 top top teams in a row.

They should be the unanimous #1 team.

They are for real.

Agree. That team is for real.

i go out to run an errand, and tcu is up huge, I come back, and they lost?

lmfao

Merkin wrote:

PieceOfMeat wrote:I really wouldn't mind if ND choked at home

I would, along with several other posters.

lol well you're still safe!

CalStateTempe wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Miss St. just beat 3 top top teams in a row.

They should be the unanimous #1 team.

They are for real.

Agree. That team is for real.

Before last week msu had never been in the top 5 of the ap poll and only ever spent 9 weeks in the top 10(3 of which were in 1940 and 1965)

I guess I am just waiting for Arkansas to really screw this up.

Alabama made a lot of silly mistakes. Better teams will take advantage of that, then ESPN can promote all they want, but they won't be going anywhere.

Ole Miss is rolling 21-0 early. The state of Mississippi is going to be hopping tonight.

Alieberman wrote:Miss St. just beat 3 top top teams in a row.

They should be the unanimous #1 team.

They are for real.

Maybe so, but were they really "top top teams" or maybe a function of the preseason SEC ranking nonsense? I do agree that MSU is top 5 this year though.

waysouthcat wrote:

Alieberman wrote:Miss St. just beat 3 top top teams in a row.

They should be the unanimous #1 team.

They are for real.

Maybe so, but were they really "top top teams" or maybe a function of the preseason SEC ranking nonsense? I do agree that MSU is top 5 this year though.

Yes, two of those teams could have three losses tomorrow.

TAMU's best win was against a now un-ranked 3-3 South Carolina.

LSU's best win was against a now un-ranked Wisconsin.





If Florida holds on, LSU drops to 4-3 AND Florida will likely be ranked... Because, SEC

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Merkin wrote:Ball State "Poo Dollar" prank: http://deadspin.com/ball-state-football ... socialflow

Thanks for the reminder not to put money in my mouth. The tiny cocaine buzz is just not worth it.

buh bye baylor and oklahoma.


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gah I wish we had beaten usc. such a wasted opportunity

PieceOfMeat wrote:buh bye baylor and oklahoma.


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gah I wish we had beaten usc. such a wasted opportunity

Typical Arizona.

Baylor #4??????? Didn't look that good against RR's old team.

"Ranked" A&M losing to Alabama 52-0 in the 3rd quarter. They should go up in the rankings after this for having to play such a good team on the road.

Lets go IRISH!

So sick, done, and over FSU and Jamais.

I thought you were supposed to schedule a team you can beat for homecoming?

Missou 42, Florida 7 with 11 min still left in the 4th. Where's the puke/you're fired emoticon?

EDIT-Wow this is an amazing box score. Jeff Driskel 7/19, 50 yards 2 picks before he's finally benched. Through 3.5 quarters 36 rushes for 72 yards for Florida? Real nice.

But that isn't even close to the most amazing thing. Through 3.5 quarters Missou has 20 yards passing and 101 yards rushing (and 11 penalties for 74 yards for good measure). Not so amazing if you're getting crushed by 35; fairly amazing when you're up by 35 at Florida.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=400548362

What a horseshoe*t flag on ND.

That was a block, not a hold. horseshit.

CalStateTempe wrote:What a horseshoe*t flag on ND.

That was a block, not a hold. horseshit.

You can't block until the pass is caught.

Yea thought that was an easy call for the ref and I was hoping they both could lose

Seemed obvious to me. It's either holding or PI. The receiver was pretty blatant about it. You can't let that shit slide if you're a ref.

....and with ND going down.....I again lament our inability to beat usc last week.

damn you arizona football for raising my hopes and then dashing them!

I thought WRs could block, even before a ball is caught.

Salty wrote:I thought WRs could block, even before a ball is caught.

Only if the ball is thrown behind the line of scrimmage.

Yeah if we had beaten usc we might be in the top 5 this week

Chicat wrote:Seemed obvious to me. It's either holding or PI. The receiver was pretty blatant about it. You can't let that shit slide if you're a ref.

When I saw it live, I agreed. I've watched it like 10 times now, and the DB actually engages the WR and holds onto him for the whole play. Watch the video below. It sure likes like the DB grabs him and never lets go.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11726052

I hadn't watched any replays until just now, but I see what you're saying. What you can't see from that angle is what is going on with the WR's right hand when the DB realizes where the pass is going and tries to disengage from him. That's where I thought the hold was. The DB looked like he was trying to disengage but was being held onto.

Good call on offense, looks like they would have scored anyway.

From that angle it doesn't look like he's running a route. Just blocking.

Chicat wrote:From that angle it doesn't look like he's running a route. Just blocking.

In your previous post you mentioned his right hand....from this angle you can see his right hand is tucked inside while the DB is bear hugging him around both shoulders. How is this not defensive holding? I agree he seems to be content moving forward....probably because it is a designed pass to the outside and the DB is trying to tackle him.

Ummmmmmm, Lou?

the real dill wrote:

Chicat wrote:From that angle it doesn't look like he's running a route. Just blocking.

In your previous post you mentioned his right hand....from this angle you can see his right hand is tucked inside while the DB is bear hugging him around both shoulders. How is this not defensive holding? I agree he seems to be content moving forward....probably because it is a designed pass to the outside and the DB is trying to tackle him.

The only thing I can guess is that since they are within the five yards of the line of scrimmage where DBs can make contact with receivers, the contact on the defensive side is legal. Although I would say that the DB does wrap up.

Tough call there. Probably not one I would have made. I can't tell who is getting the advantage of the contact except for the result of the play. And maybe that's what the ref was looking at. The guy is so wide open that you almost convince yourself it was the result of an illegal pick or block.

Chicat wrote:

the real dill wrote:

Chicat wrote:From that angle it doesn't look like he's running a route. Just blocking.

In your previous post you mentioned his right hand....from this angle you can see his right hand is tucked inside while the DB is bear hugging him around both shoulders. How is this not defensive holding? I agree he seems to be content moving forward....probably because it is a designed pass to the outside and the DB is trying to tackle him.

The only thing I can guess is that since they are within the five yards of the line of scrimmage where DBs can make contact with receivers, the contact on the defensive side is legal. Although I would say that the DB does wrap up.

Tough call there. Probably not one I would have made. I can't tell who is getting the advantage of the contact except for the result of the play. And maybe that's what the ref was looking at. The guy is so wide open that you almost convince yourself it was the result of an illegal pick or block.

No doubt. Obviously the ref doesn't have the luxury of looking at screen caps and youtube slow motion 10 times. When I watched it live I said out loud "that's a pick, pass interference."

the real dill wrote:No doubt. Obviously the ref doesn't have the luxury of looking at screen caps and youtube slow motion 10 times. When I watched it live I said out loud "that's a pick, pass interference."

Me too. Saw the play live plus one replay and it looked like the right call. Watching it again and again, now I'm not sure. I can definitely see why the ref would throw the flag. And I don't think it's some kind of blatant screw job like all of the ND fans around here are saying. They would like a Watergate-style investigation of who paid off the ref.

Shit, Chi, I just remembered where you live. It must be turrible right now dealing with the whiny Irish fans.

CalStateTempe wrote:Shit, Chi, I just remembered where you live. It must be turrible right now dealing with the whiny Irish fans.

It was worse before this weekend.

Watching live I thought it was the right call.

Now that I have seen in again and again, I think it should have been a no call (although I get why it was called).

To me looking at it again, #8 for FSU for sure holds #20 NDU the entire time. Now the tricky part. It looks like #7 NDU is blocking #3 FSU, but it appears that #3 FSU engages first and grabs first.

Teams are 147-2 over the last 10 years when allowing less than 120 yards of offense.

Both losses are by Muschamp at UF.

(See :20 to :30 for the stat)

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... -plays-out

good lord. a kickoff return td, punt return td, fumble return td, and a int return td.

good job gators!

I think its safe to say that you can stick a fork in Will Muschamp. Dan Mullen will be roaming the UF sidelines next year. I don't think MSU can match Florida's pay package.

I don't know how Boise St fans can watch game after game on this blue turf. Damn.