Bear Down Wildcats

dc4azcats wrote:

Gladiator Cat wrote:When it comes to filling the stadium on a consistent basis, most rational and reasonable people know the score and have lived up close and personal the lengthy history of a very average football product over the course of decades. It’s just the way it has always been and odd's favor that the lukewarm commitment to getting capacity crowd butts in the seats each weekend in Tucson will continue.

Even life long hardcore fans on this site who by all accounts are great people who love the UofA have told everyone they are hit and miss during home games. That’s just the way it is and shall continue to be, its called life and choices. There are other things in life that take president at the end of a long work-week and are far more important than college football. I know that sounds crazy but some folks do try to find balance in life. I'm actually quite stunned that the obviousness of having multiple enjoyable alternatives to partake in that evolves around family and friends are ridiculed to the extent that it is. The veracity and nastiness of those calling out people for simply having a different view and a different set of priorities on any given game day throughout the year is astonishing in its arrogance. The alienation factor by some folks is disturbing to say the least.

As for Rich Rod, for him to change the landscape in Arizona football a drastic dynamic would have to occur and it will boil down to the most basic element of sports played anywhere...............wins and losses! RR is never going to consistently fill the stadium unless and until he wins 9-11 games a year for a number of back to back years.

This has never been a rabid fanatical, fill the stadium fan base and I don't suspect it ever will be. There will be a hit and miss increases and decreases year in and year out. It is entertaining to see the discussion and even participate in it, but it’s mainly circle jerk exercise in the big scheme of things because it involves understanding the passions and apathy dynamics in play.

In closing and throwing my two cents in on RR leaving the UofA. The Arizona job has always been a transition job and that factor did not stop when RR was hired. The job and longevity factor has improved but, many of the old issues are still present and play a role. The Dick Tomey types who would have stayed here for 40 years if allowed are the exception.

Simply put, unless insane money and executive level perks above those present today were to be thrown at Rich Rod and his staff, there is no reasonable expectation that if a school like Florida were to actually offer the HCing job to RR where he could or would say no.

I don't expect it to happen, but if a Florida job offer was made, RR and the family would have moving vans rolling down I-10 so fast your head would spin and I don't even think that is a reach. But all of this banter is a mute point for the most part, because it’s very unlikely he will ever be offered a job like Florida without numerous PAC12 championships and with an appearance or two in the national college play-offs under his belt.

I'm sorry, but I must have missed the posts of those who said anything other than "The team always lets me down so I either don't go or I only go to 3 or 4 games (if that)." Or the always popular "when we start scheduling better OOC games is when I'll start going to games." Maybe you can post the ones that say I can't because my kid has a (name the sport) game? That's certainly understandable. Thursday or Friday night game? Understandable as well. If you have kids and it's a school night and or worked all day? More than understandable. Again, I must have missed those posts.

That being said. Do you really think it's to much to ask a fan to make a 6 to 8 week commitment over the course of a football season? Not all the games are in a row so it shouldn't make it that difficult? At the most you get 2 home games in a row usually and on the rare occasion you might get 3, but there will usually be a bye week in there. So for all of the things somebody might do over the course of 12 to 14 weeks you're saying that it's to much to ask for a fan to schedule 6 to 7 game days in that time frame? I wonder how all of the other universities are able to do it? Utah will be sold out for our game and fans there have a pro team to consider when choosing how to spend their disposable income.

Other than that you really made some great excuses as to why fans can't go to 6 to 7 games over 14 week period.

UAdevil wrote:

dc4azcats wrote:

Gladiator Cat wrote:When it comes to filling the stadium on a consistent basis, most rational and reasonable people know the score and have lived up close and personal the lengthy history of a very average football product over the course of decades. It’s just the way it has always been and odd's favor that the lukewarm commitment to getting capacity crowd butts in the seats each weekend in Tucson will continue.

Even life long hardcore fans on this site who by all accounts are great people who love the UofA have told everyone they are hit and miss during home games. That’s just the way it is and shall continue to be, its called life and choices. There are other things in life that take president at the end of a long work-week and are far more important than college football. I know that sounds crazy but some folks do try to find balance in life. I'm actually quite stunned that the obviousness of having multiple enjoyable alternatives to partake in that evolves around family and friends are ridiculed to the extent that it is. The veracity and nastiness of those calling out people for simply having a different view and a different set of priorities on any given game day throughout the year is astonishing in its arrogance. The alienation factor by some folks is disturbing to say the least.

As for Rich Rod, for him to change the landscape in Arizona football a drastic dynamic would have to occur and it will boil down to the most basic element of sports played anywhere...............wins and losses! RR is never going to consistently fill the stadium unless and until he wins 9-11 games a year for a number of back to back years.

This has never been a rabid fanatical, fill the stadium fan base and I don't suspect it ever will be. There will be a hit and miss increases and decreases year in and year out. It is entertaining to see the discussion and even participate in it, but it’s mainly circle jerk exercise in the big scheme of things because it involves understanding the passions and apathy dynamics in play.

In closing and throwing my two cents in on RR leaving the UofA. The Arizona job has always been a transition job and that factor did not stop when RR was hired. The job and longevity factor has improved but, many of the old issues are still present and play a role. The Dick Tomey types who would have stayed here for 40 years if allowed are the exception.

Simply put, unless insane money and executive level perks above those present today were to be thrown at Rich Rod and his staff, there is no reasonable expectation that if a school like Florida were to actually offer the HCing job to RR where he could or would say no.

I don't expect it to happen, but if a Florida job offer was made, RR and the family would have moving vans rolling down I-10 so fast your head would spin and I don't even think that is a reach. But all of this banter is a mute point for the most part, because it’s very unlikely he will ever be offered a job like Florida without numerous PAC12 championships and with an appearance or two in the national college play-offs under his belt.

I'm sorry, but I must have missed the posts of those who said anything other than "The team always lets me down so I either don't go or I only go to 3 or 4 games (if that)." Or the always popular "when we start scheduling better OOC games is when I'll start going to games." Maybe you can post the ones that say I can't because my kid has a (name the sport) game? That's certainly understandable. Thursday or Friday night game? Understandable as well. If you have kids and it's a school night and or worked all day? More than understandable. Again, I must have missed those posts.

That being said. Do you really think it's to much to ask a fan to make a 6 to 8 week commitment over the course of a football season? Not all the games are in a row so it shouldn't make it that difficult? At the most you get 2 home games in a row usually and on the rare occasion you might get 3, but there will usually be a bye week in there. So for all of the things somebody might do over the course of 12 to 14 weeks you're saying that it's to much to ask for a fan to schedule 6 to 7 game days in that time frame? I wonder how all of the other universities are able to do it? Utah will be sold out for our game and fans there have a pro team to consider when choosing how to spend their disposable income.

Other than that you really made some great excuses as to why fans can't go to 6 to 7 games over 14 week period.

Not everyone in Tucson lives and breathes UA football like you obviously do. If they did we need a much bigger stadium.

CatsbyAZ wrote:What makes no sense is why Mullin isn't under consideration. With a historically lesser-SEC program he is fielding a winning product in the most difficult division to succeed. Mullin would kill it in the SEC East.

Chicat wrote:At the Bears game yesterday I talked with at least six different people about the UA/UDub game. Most actually watched the game or at least the end. All credited Arizona's toughness at least in part for the win.

The reason I mention this is because in years past no one even knew if Arizona played nor did they care if we won or lost. Thank you RichRod for making my team relevant in the national college football landscape.

Merkin wrote:If RR beats Utah, and whatever crappy bowl game the UA gets to, but loses to ASU he won't be on the top of anyone's list.

0-3 vs tOSU, 0-3 vs MSU, then 0-3 vs ASU is not going to cut it with any team that has a competitive rival.

DkuruptCAT wrote:

Chicat wrote:At the Bears game yesterday I talked with at least six different people about the UA/UDub game. Most actually watched the game or at least the end. All credited Arizona's toughness at least in part for the win.

The reason I mention this is because in years past no one even knew if Arizona played nor did they care if we won or lost. Thank you RichRod for making my team relevant in the national college football landscape.

On a plane from KC to Vegas last night, I was decked out in full AZ gear and a random guy asks me if I saw the game the night before. I say "of course" and the guy goes on to tell me what a good game it was and how impressed he was with the AZ D and "That Scooby guy".... We are relevant....

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:....a shot to get additional $175k - $350k finishing season ranked, getting 9 wins+ and CGPA

ASUHATER! wrote:Season ending ranking isn't totally sewn up. If we lose big in the next two games we might not be, but win just one more and we're probably top 20 to finish for sure.

CalStateTempe wrote:ASUHATER! our resident brake pumper.

PieceOfMeat wrote:

RazorsEdgeAZ wrote:....a shot to get additional $175k - $350k finishing season ranked, getting 9 wins+ and CGPA

Well, there's the 9 wins, and the season ending ranking sewn up What's the CGPA?

Catintheheat wrote:Curious what Michigan fans are thinking?

Katzenfreund wrote:

PieceOfMeat wrote:
probably something like this:

That might as well be Larry Scott.

Catstatic wrote:To reiterate: Thank you, Michigan!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

Go Cats!!

TuiTouchdown wrote:Pac12 Coach of the Year. For sure.

azgreg wrote:

Merkin wrote:

azgreg wrote:

All true, but in all fairness it's only been since 2006 when all teams could play 12 regular season games and there are a shitload of bowl games now unlike the old days. Nearly every bowl eligible team gets an invite.

When I was growing up there were only handfuls. In 1970 there was 11.

Now there are 38.

PieceOfMeat wrote:

Merkin wrote:

azgreg wrote:

All true, but in all fairness it's only been since 2006 when all teams could play 12 regular season games and there are a shitload of bowl games now unlike the old days. Nearly every bowl eligible team gets an invite.

When I was growing up there were only handfuls. In 1970 there was 11.

Now there are 38.

That's a fair point, but it's still an impressive state for RR in his first 3 years.

Chicat wrote:

PieceOfMeat wrote:

Merkin wrote:

azgreg wrote:

All true, but in all fairness it's only been since 2006 when all teams could play 12 regular season games and there are a shitload of bowl games now unlike the old days. Nearly every bowl eligible team gets an invite.

When I was growing up there were only handfuls. In 1970 there was 11.

Now there are 38.

That's a fair point, but it's still an impressive state for RR in his first 3 years.

All you can ask is that a new coach win as many games as the situation and talent allow. Rich Rod has gone well above and beyond that.

Catintheheat wrote:
Mike Stoops would have been competitive in the same situation but always found ways to lose.