Bear Down Wildcats

Allow me a few moments and I’ll explain how rumors not only get started, but take flight.

Unfounded rumors, that is. If you’re an elder, you might even pass this on to your kids in hopes they’ll tread carefully in this barrage era of social media.

Now, if you’re a WVU fan with your ear to the ground or, more correctly, your eyes to the Internet, you probably have seen the latest rumor involving the possible ouster of Mountaineer Dana Holgorsen.

Evan Massey, a Fox Sports contributor and writer at Campus Sports Net, recently quoted a report that read, “Major donors in WV have ‘escorted’ WVU AD [Shane] Lyons to Arizona on private jets twice since WVU entered the death stretch of losses in October. They are already quietly raising the money to pay out Holgorsen’s contract and [Rich] Rodriguez’s buyout in [Arizona]. The only catch is [Virginia Tech] AD Whit Babcock, who is a long time [Rich Rodriguez] confidant. Either way, looks like RR is back east in ’16.”

It pains me to even address such a “report,” but I shall because of the aforementioned social-media crazed world in which we live.

“I’m not sure where this stuff started,” Lyons told the Gazette-Mail. “No, there’s nothing to it. Nothing.”

Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.

ASUHATER! wrote:

Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.

Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Merkin wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.

Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Has now snowed out here in the 30 years I have been living in coastal CA. Tucson gets snow about once every 4 years? I recall a couple of years, one where it snowed in Tucson on Easter, and another time Tucson had the only white Christmas in the ConUS.

However, it does cool down rapidly at night here, unlike Arizona, so for night games AZ still rules.

ASUHATER! wrote:

Merkin wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.

Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Has now snowed out here in the 30 years I have been living in coastal CA. Tucson gets snow about once every 4 years? I recall a couple of years, one where it snowed in Tucson on Easter, and another time Tucson had the only white Christmas in the ConUS.

However, it does cool down rapidly at night here, unlike Arizona, so for night games AZ still rules.

? It cools down very rapidly at night in Arizona. Almost more than anywhere else. And it's actually snowed like 3-4 times in the last 8 years here in town. There was one 4 day stretch in February like 4 years ago where it was between 15-35 degrees every day.

Harvey Specter wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

Merkin wrote:

ASUHATER! wrote:

Newportcat wrote:This article was in Arch Rivals but interesting on Rich Rod

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/10/27/ric ... usc-miami/" target="_blank

Why do people still believe we have great year round weather for football. Orange County has great year round weather for football, Tucson does not. Between May and October, the weather sucks to play or practice football in. Starting from now until May its great but the rest of the year seems miserable to put pads on and practice or play in.

Yup. And doesn't affect football really but in the winter it often gets colder here than in Orange county. Oftentimes lows in the 25-35 degree range and the like.

Has now snowed out here in the 30 years I have been living in coastal CA. Tucson gets snow about once every 4 years? I recall a couple of years, one where it snowed in Tucson on Easter, and another time Tucson had the only white Christmas in the ConUS.

However, it does cool down rapidly at night here, unlike Arizona, so for night games AZ still rules.

? It cools down very rapidly at night in Arizona. Almost more than anywhere else. And it's actually snowed like 3-4 times in the last 8 years here in town. There was one 4 day stretch in February like 4 years ago where it was between 15-35 degrees every day.

You must try really hard to make as many erroneous statements as you do; it is truly a gift.

I assume you have never lived anywhere else? I have lived a handful of places where the temperature can get to 100 (or close) in the summer but the temperatures drops like a rock when the sun goes down.... To the point where you turn off the AC, open the windows, and cool your house down.

Here? Most people never open their windows for 6+ months of the year.

WVU Unhappy with Direction of Football Program
Posted on October 30, 2015 by thedudeofwv
According to sources close to the program WVU president E. Gordon Gee is unhappy with the direction of the Mountaineer program and will instruct Athletic Director Shane Lyons to terminate Dana Holgorsen’s contract at the end of the current season should the Mountaineers not win at least 8 games.

WVU 3-4 (0-4) has five games remaining including road contests with Kansas State and Kansas and home games with Texas Tech, Texas and Iowa State plus a possible bowl game.

Holgorsen’s buyout ($8 Million) will not be an issue.

WVU will conduct a national search for a experienced and proven football coach should a change be necessary.

Although no candidates were mentioned by name Rich Rodriguez has supporters among WVU’s most generous boosters and on the Board of Governors. Rodriquez has privately expressed interest in returning to WVU but has not been contacted.

Another candidate who may be given serious consideration is former Ohio State coach and current Youngstown State University president Jim Tressel.

Tressel has a NCAA “Show Cause” order in effect until December 2016 meaning that he would be suspended for the first five games of his initial season. WVU would also be banned from a bowl game that same year.

The same source cited Gee’s close personal relationship with Tressel and the possibility of appearing before the NCAA infraction committee to have the penalties reduced or nullified as reasons why Tressel would be a viable candidate.

ASUHATER! wrote:

Harvey Specter wrote:
Here? Most people never open their windows for 6+ months of the year.

nowhere near the ocean is your statement correct. Basic science.

Merkin wrote:

Salty wrote:

Merkin wrote:

If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

Salty wrote:

Merkin wrote:

If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

Harvey Specter wrote:

Salty wrote:

Merkin wrote:

If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

I hope RR does not leave, and would be disappointed if he left. I would not, however, be crushed.

And if he expresses interest in another coaching job as a way to leverage a raise, then I will expect Byrne to play a game of chicken. We are 17-17 in conference play, and very unlikely to finish >0.500 in conference play over the past 4 years.

Can we do better? Quite possibly not... But we're paying enough now for what we are getting.

Salty wrote:

Merkin wrote:

If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

Salty wrote:

Merkin wrote:

If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

Merkin wrote:

Salty wrote:

Merkin wrote:

If RR wants to move on, let him. I have faith that our AD would hire an exceptional coach.

If there's interest from other schools I would hope that Byrne wouldn't budge on RR's salary.

I don't want to see RR get fired, but I wouldn't be upset if he decided to leave.

PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

Bad comparison is a bad one.

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

Bad comparison is a bad one.

PHXCATS wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

Bad comparison is a bad one.

How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

Bad comparison is a bad one.

How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.

Can you explain how it's a good comparison in English please?

PHXCATS wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

Bad comparison is a bad one.

How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.

Can you explain how it's a good comparison in English please?

Already did. Both coaches showed promise but saw their flaws as well. So should we have let Miller go to Maryland at the time since he was a messy burger away for leaving and got more power and a raise out of it.

If you want RR gone, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, just make sure you understand everything that goes with it.

I am frustrated as well. Mostly by the poor coaching and lack of effort yesterday. But since I don't see a good established coach coming here and coordinators are such a crapshoot with most not working (Stoops Muschamp etc are really good ones that come to mind) I don't want a change at this time.

PHXCATS wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:Should we also have let Miller go after two years?

Thank God for messy burgers.

Bad comparison is a bad one.

How so. You could see flaws but promise with Miller then as you can with Rich Rod today.

Can you explain how it's a good comparison in English please?

Already did. Both coaches showed promise but saw their flaws as well. So should we have let Miller go to Maryland at the time since he was a messy burger away for leaving and got more power and a raise out of it.

If you want RR gone, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it, just make sure you understand everything that goes with it.

I am frustrated as well. Mostly by the poor coaching and lack of effort yesterday. But since I don't see a good established coach coming here and coordinators are such a crapshoot with most not working (Stoops Muschamp etc are really good ones that come to mind) I don't want a change at this time.

PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

PHXCATS wrote:I will take 3 bowls a pac12 south title and a NY6 bowl in three years vs and elite 8 one regular season title and two missed ncaa tournaments. But to each their own. Now what Miller has done the next three has been outstanding, just gotta break through a little more now.

ChooChooCat wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:I will take 3 bowls a pac12 south title and a NY6 bowl in three years vs and elite 8 one regular season title and two missed ncaa tournaments. But to each their own. Now what Miller has done the next three has been outstanding, just gotta break through a little more now.

Once again one was left with Nic Wise and the other Ka'Deem Carey. You're lacking context to say the least.

PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

Harvey Specter wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

I respect your opinion, but this is a ridiculous comparison. Apples and oranges to the extreme.

FB: First 2 seasons 4-5 in PAC, finishing 8th and T7th

BB: First 2 seasons 10-8 (4th) and 16-5 (1st)

Forget about NIT; A lower-level bowl game with a losing conference record is closer to a CBI tournament berth than an NCAA one, and that is being generous.

PHXCATS wrote:

Harvey Specter wrote:

PHXCATS wrote:RR made the post season in his first three seasons. Miller only once (donot count the NIT performance). NY6 bowl is at least sweet 16 if not elite 8.

True about recruiting though

I respect your opinion, but this is a ridiculous comparison. Apples and oranges to the extreme.

FB: First 2 seasons 4-5 in PAC, finishing 8th and T7th

BB: First 2 seasons 10-8 (4th) and 16-5 (1st)

Forget about NIT; A lower-level bowl game with a losing conference record is closer to a CBI tournament berth than an NCAA one, and that is being generous.

UA fifth year before Miller arrived in conference. UA eleventh year before RR arrived in conference.

The article in question was written with the best of intentions. The goal of any author is to improve readership. The problem with this scenario, is something doesn't quite add up. Too many unnamed sources are a bad thing, and with this piece it seems like bar chatter. Speculation is easy, facts are not. The quote from the article that left me pulling my hair out, was this:

"Multiple sources have indicated to me that Whit Babcock has already approached current Arizona head coach Rich Rodriguez about replacing Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech. While I was not told directly the two had met there was a strong indication that there had been a personal meeting in the not-so-distant past."

Who are these sources? If you aren't told directly, then it's hearsay. I will offer only this: I will believe it when I see it. Follow me @roybhatfield

azgreg wrote:I have no idea who this guy is.