Bear Down Wildcats

Don't know if this was posted on here, but I heard the radio here in PHX chirping a bit about this...Hansen had an article in his column this past Sunday:

Moments before Arizona kicker Casey Skowron missed a 36-yard field goal that would’ve beaten USC 29-28 last week, new Arizona State baseball coach Tracy Smith tweeted “Miss it.”

And when the kick sailed wide right, Smith tweeted a thumbs-up icon.

That’s juvenile and unprofessional. I was dumbfounded.

Can you imagine Andy Lopez, or any Arizona head coach, similarly, making social media comments about a Sun Devil athlete or athletic event?

Ever?

Greg Byrne and his UA predecessors, Jim Livengood and Cedric Dempsey, would’ve a) croaked and b) forced the coach to make a public apology.



The UA-ASU rivalry is cookin’, among the most deeply-rooted in college sports. But when a 48-year-old head coach joins the chorus of Twitter knotheads, it’s nothing but embarrassing.

I saw that but I don't think it's a big deal. I think in this instance he's just acting as a ASU fan and taking solace in the failure of his rival.

azgreg wrote:I saw that but I don't think it's a big deal. I think in this instance he's just acting as a ASU fan and taking solace in the failure of his rival.

Employees of an athletic department should be nothing but polite, gracious, and positive on social media. They are representing their university with every tweet and post.

If they want to openly root against a rival they should do so anonymously. Make an account on a fan site like this one and have at it.

Classless behavior from ASSU is standard behavior. Fans or coaches - scum

Chicat wrote:

azgreg wrote:I saw that but I don't think it's a big deal. I think in this instance he's just acting as a ASU fan and taking solace in the failure of his rival.

Employees of an athletic department should be nothing but polite, gracious, and positive on social media. They are representing their university with every tweet and post.

If they want to openly root against a rival they should do so anonymously. Make an account on a fan site like this one and have at it.

I get what you're saying, I just don't think it's that big as deal. Of the fail from STD St this is much to do about nothing.

Chicat wrote:

azgreg wrote:I saw that but I don't think it's a big deal. I think in this instance he's just acting as a ASU fan and taking solace in the failure of his rival.

Employees of an athletic department should be nothing but polite, gracious, and positive on social media. They are representing their university with every tweet and post.

If they want to openly root against a rival they should do so anonymously. Make an account on a fan site like this one and have at it.

Isn't Matt Dudek an employee of the athletic department here?

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

Chicat wrote:

azgreg wrote:I saw that but I don't think it's a big deal. I think in this instance he's just acting as a ASU fan and taking solace in the failure of his rival.

Employees of an athletic department should be nothing but polite, gracious, and positive on social media. They are representing their university with every tweet and post.

If they want to openly root against a rival they should do so anonymously. Make an account on a fan site like this one and have at it.

Isn't Matt Dudek an employee of the athletic department here?

That crossed my mind and I think Matty is up to doing the same thing.

It's different with Matt

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

Chicat wrote:

azgreg wrote:I saw that but I don't think it's a big deal. I think in this instance he's just acting as a ASU fan and taking solace in the failure of his rival.

Employees of an athletic department should be nothing but polite, gracious, and positive on social media. They are representing their university with every tweet and post.

If they want to openly root against a rival they should do so anonymously. Make an account on a fan site like this one and have at it.

Isn't Matt Dudek an employee of the athletic department here?

Has Matt openly rooted against ASU? If so, I haven't seen it. From what I've seen, Matt's Twitter is all about Arizona.

Don't think anything similar.

https://twitter.com/AZ_Matty_D

Although ice cream tacos are a little irrelevant to UA sports.

ScummyD, I went back four weeks and couldn't find anything in Matt's Twitter that I thought misrepresented UA in any way, shape, or form. Everything I saw was positive. I'm guessing though you have a different opinion?

Chicat wrote:ScummyD, I went back four weeks and couldn't find anything in Matt's Twitter that I thought misrepresented UA in any way, shape, or form. Everything I saw was positive. I'm guessing though you have a different opinion?

I remember seeing something from him the night ASU lost to UCLA, something about UA being the only undefeated team left in Arizona. He also had some clever meme's right after the Oregon game, mocking some of their slogans and playing off the loss. I guess I still don't see how the tweet in question was a big deal.

There is a difference in being anti ASU or anti UA and posting something about a specific player failing. If the dumb ASU baseball coach tweeted "I hope UA loses" it would have been no big deal. When he tweets about a student missing a FG (which he received death threats after) he shows that he is an idiot.

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

Chicat wrote:ScummyD, I went back four weeks and couldn't find anything in Matt's Twitter that I thought misrepresented UA in any way, shape, or form. Everything I saw was positive. I'm guessing though you have a different opinion?

I remember seeing something from him the night ASU lost to UCLA, something about UA being the only undefeated team left in Arizona. He also had some clever meme's right after the Oregon game, mocking some of their slogans and playing off the loss. I guess I still don't see how the tweet in question was a big deal.

ODogg answered this very well. There's a big difference between being for your school and hoping a student athlete fails. I didn't see anything from Matt that even approached that. Your false equivalence is false.

Olsondogg wrote:There is a difference in being anti ASU or anti UA and posting something about a specific player failing. If the dumb ASU baseball coach tweeted "I hope UA loses" it would have been no big deal. When he tweets about a student missing a FG (which he received death threats after) he shows that he is an idiot.

I can see this angle. However, I take his tweet as being against Arizona in general and not against Casey in particular.

azgreg wrote:

Olsondogg wrote:There is a difference in being anti ASU or anti UA and posting something about a specific player failing. If the dumb ASU baseball coach tweeted "I hope UA loses" it would have been no big deal. When he tweets about a student missing a FG (which he received death threats after) he shows that he is an idiot.

I can see this angle. However, I take his tweet as being against Arizona in general and not against Casey in particular.

Point is: he's the head coach of a team in a power conference and shouldn't...well...you know what, I'm glad he coaches where he coaches and represents what he represents.

I'm also glad our coaches don't tweet similarly.

Chicat wrote:

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

Chicat wrote:ScummyD, I went back four weeks and couldn't find anything in Matt's Twitter that I thought misrepresented UA in any way, shape, or form. Everything I saw was positive. I'm guessing though you have a different opinion?

I remember seeing something from him the night ASU lost to UCLA, something about UA being the only undefeated team left in Arizona. He also had some clever meme's right after the Oregon game, mocking some of their slogans and playing off the loss. I guess I still don't see how the tweet in question was a big deal.

ODogg answered this very well. There's a big difference between being for your school and hoping a student athlete fails. I didn't see anything from Matt that even approached that. Your false equivalence is false.

It is my understanding he tweeted something along the lines of "miss it". Had he tweeted "block it", would that be ok?

Some of you are implying this "behavior" is unacceptable for a member of a D1 athletic department. If roles were reversed, I doubt a single one of you would have a problem with a UA coach doing the same. In fact, you would probably rally around the hypothetical coach. I, for one, would appreciate a little more fire from the UA coaches in regards to ASU.

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

Chicat wrote:

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:

Chicat wrote:ScummyD, I went back four weeks and couldn't find anything in Matt's Twitter that I thought misrepresented UA in any way, shape, or form. Everything I saw was positive. I'm guessing though you have a different opinion?

I remember seeing something from him the night ASU lost to UCLA, something about UA being the only undefeated team left in Arizona. He also had some clever meme's right after the Oregon game, mocking some of their slogans and playing off the loss. I guess I still don't see how the tweet in question was a big deal.

ODogg answered this very well. There's a big difference between being for your school and hoping a student athlete fails. I didn't see anything from Matt that even approached that. Your false equivalence is false.

It is my understanding he tweeted something along the lines of "miss it". Had he tweeted "block it", would that be ok?

Some of you are implying this "behavior" is unacceptable for a member of a D1 athletic department. If roles were reversed, I doubt a single one of you would have a problem with a UA coach doing the same. In fact, you would probably rally around the hypothetical coach. I, for one, would appreciate a little more fire from the UA coaches in regards to ASU.

I'd have an issue with our coaches doing similarly, obviously. They don't do it. It's called being classy.

Their AD addressed it on radio yesterday in PHX. I like that he doesn't answer the question that he asks himself:

"I'm aware of it," Anderson said. "Do I condone it? Tracy is one who is rooting for his fellow coach. And certainly the thought that if Arizona loses a game, now we're closer to them was on his mind.

"I think that if he had to do it over again, he might be a little more sensitive to the fact that some people are way oversensitive. Particularly, if you're in a coach's position, you have to be cautious about that. We've talked about it and I think he will be more cautious about his tweeting moving forward."

http://arizonasports.com/44/1776529/Ari ... ball-tweet

Scummy Dick Douglas wrote:Some of you are implying this "behavior" is unacceptable for a member of a D1 athletic department. If roles were reversed, I doubt a single one of you would have a problem with a UA coach doing the same. In fact, you would probably rally around the hypothetical coach. I, for one, would appreciate a little more fire from the UA coaches in regards to ASU.

I want our athletic department social media to be all about Arizona. A little trash talk in good fun during rivalry week is one thing. Rooting for other programs to lose is different.

Guessing what I would do or how I would feel in a hypothetical situation is not your strong suit. If Mike Candrea was tweeting "miss it" during an ASU kick, I'd think it was kind of shitty. And if ASU fans wanted to call him on it, I wouldn't "rally around" him. I'd hope that Byrne would talk to him and let him know that rooting for other Arizona sports is great, but to keep it positive always.

Am I missing something with ASU? Why are people all over there nuts? People really think they are going THUMP Utah. I just don't see it!