Game 9, at Washington (2015)

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:51 pm

And down 39 we are STILL backing our DB's 10 yards off the ball.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:52 pm

RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit

Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:52 pm

dmjcat wrote:And down 39 we are STILL backing our DB's 10 yards off the ball.

Like i said before, you wanna give up 10 yards a play or a td every play?

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:54 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good.

Yeah the banged up defense was a good excuse before but it just doesn't hold the same water anymore.

As for ND, I hate that they get the special treatment being an independent. Teams in our conference shouldn't get screwed over just because they get to be the special snowflake of a P5 team without having to be in any of the 5 major conferences.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:54 pm

The schedule and no bye hurt.

But let's man up and stop using that as an excuse. We had an exceptionally favorable schedule last year.

carolinacat · Post by **carolinacat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:55 pm

Season is over. We need to hit rock bottom and for players and coaches to evaluate themselves. Stop the stupid off season promotional videos. I know you need to promote the program and sell tickets, but don't drive around in Ferraris when your team plays like it needs training wheels.
Nobody's job (coaches or players) should be safe right now.

Before ASU's magical Rose Bowl year in '96, Bruce Snyder was forced to fire many assistants. At the time it wasn't popular but nobody regretted the move a few months later.

Byrne and Arizona need to decide if they're going to be serious about football or not. We've had 3.5 seasons of RR and he's done a pretty decent job. But in all those years our defense has been dreadful. Everyone complains about wanting "entertaining football." I'd take competitive football right now. We've lost three games this season where we've had our asses handed to us. And another beat down is a week away.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:55 pm

Newportcat wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:So RR is now mackovic, stoops, and Sark all rolled into one?
No rich Rod is just rich Rod

And our program is still the same program it always typically has been....exciting here and there but on average poor to mediocre

This is what happens when you recruit #okg's

RR need to change his approach on Recruiting, Defense, Playing calling on offense.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:57 pm

Cant even chase a QB.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:57 pm

Note to Arizona defenders: If Lindquist is in he is going to run it.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:58 pm

The really scary thing about this game is that UW is MUCH younger than we are. They are playing a ton of freshman/sophomores. I shudder to think what they will do to us in the next few years.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:58 pm

49 unanswered point by Washington. Statement!

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:59 pm

At least it's nice that asu sucks too.

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:59 pm

dmjcat wrote:The really scary thing about this game is that UW is MUCH younger than we are. They are playing a ton of freshman/sophomores. I shudder to think what they will do to us in the next few years.

Good news dmj! We play them next year, but then we skip them the two years after.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:59 pm

cordera89 wrote:
Newportcat wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:So RR is now mackovic, stoops, and Sark all rolled into one?
No rich Rod is just rich Rod

And our program is still the same program it always typically has been....exciting here and there but on average poor to mediocre

This is what happens when you recruit #okg's
RR need to change his approach on Recruiting, Defense, Playing calling on offense.

This is what happens if you wait too long to make changes. The list of needed changes gets too long.

And I'm afraid that all the new facilities in the world aren't going to help this current staff get that.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:59 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.

I hate the bye week excuse. Supposing next week would be the Cats' bye week? Doesn't explain the blow outs prior to the bye week.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:00 pm

Salty wrote:At least it's nice that asu sucks too.

Yea but ASU didn't score 3 point in their lose to Oregon did they.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:01 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Newportcat wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:So RR is now mackovic, stoops, and Sark all rolled into one?
No rich Rod is just rich Rod

And our program is still the same program it always typically has been....exciting here and there but on average poor to mediocre

This is what happens when you recruit #okg's
RR need to change his approach on Recruiting, Defense, Playing calling on offense.
This is what happens if you wait too long to make changes. The list of needed changes gets too long.

And I'm afraid that all the new facilities in the world aren't going to help this current staff get that.

The facilities were supposed to answer the recruiting challenges.

And then Byrne hires a guy who traditionally doesn't recruit highly rated players.

Oy vey...

Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:01 pm

Merkin wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.
I hate the bye week excuse. Supposing next week would be the Cats' bye week? Doesn't explain the blow outs prior to the bye week.

Merk Its not the bye week thing................its the recruiting class from four years ago. Didn't you get the memo.

RiseAndFire · Post by **RiseAndFire** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:02 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.

who's blaming the loss on anything - can you read? your illiteracy is out of this world though

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:02 pm

catgrad97 wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Newportcat wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:So RR is now mackovic, stoops, and Sark all rolled into one?
No rich Rod is just rich Rod

And our program is still the same program it always typically has been....exciting here and there but on average poor to mediocre

This is what happens when you recruit #okg's
RR need to change his approach on Recruiting, Defense, Playing calling on offense.
This is what happens if you wait too long to make changes. The list of needed changes gets too long.

And I'm afraid that all the new facilities in the world aren't going to help this current staff get that.

That why he has an Offseason to make all those changes.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:02 pm

cordera89 wrote:
Salty wrote:At least it's nice that asu sucks too.

Yea but ASU didn't score 3 point in their lose to Oregon did they.

asu still sucks.

We probably suck more. But they suck too.

TheGreatCatsby · Post by **TheGreatCatsby** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:02 pm

The Okg thing isn't cutting it...

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:03 pm

Merkin wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.
I hate the bye week excuse. Supposing next week would be the Cats' bye week? Doesn't explain the blow outs prior to the bye week.

I don't hate it, every other p12 school gets one except Rado and that was their choice. Bye weeks help teams recuperate and rebalance during the season. No bye week means just one game to the next with no rest in between. Add the lovely game times we're getting coming up and its just a recipe for injury and bad feelings all around.

Yeah i know theres nothing we can do about it, and bitching doesn't help, but it's still a stupid system.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:04 pm

TheGreatCatsby wrote:The Okg thing isn't cutting it...

It WOULD cut it if we had OKG's mixed in with some highly rated guys.

But we've got OKG's mixed in with Big Sky talent.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:06 pm

Salty wrote:
TheGreatCatsby wrote:The Okg thing isn't cutting it...
It WOULD cut it if we had OKG's mixed in with some highly rated guys.

But we've got OKG's mixed in with Big Sky talent.

Bingo!

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:06 pm

Merkin wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.
I hate the bye week excuse. Supposing next week would be the Cats' bye week? Doesn't explain the blow outs prior to the bye week.

Frankly, I find most of the excuses for not being competitive as a D-1 or NFL program to be selling snake oil.

Remember when people thought Mark Mangino was an up-and-coming football coach? Charlie Weis?

Not to pick on the fatties, but they were terribly dishonest and just in it for the cushy contract, and even though it finally caught up to them, they still have no money worries most of us have.

It's systematic BS, and if you're not obsessed with winning football games, you can step back and see that.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:06 pm

Salty wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Newportcat wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:So RR is now mackovic, stoops, and Sark all rolled into one?
No rich Rod is just rich Rod

And our program is still the same program it always typically has been....exciting here and there but on average poor to mediocre

This is what happens when you recruit #okg's
RR need to change his approach on Recruiting, Defense, Playing calling on offense.
This is what happens if you wait too long to make changes. The list of needed changes gets too long.

And I'm afraid that all the new facilities in the world aren't going to help this current staff get that.
The facilities were supposed to answer the recruiting challenges.

And then Byrne hires a guy who traditionally doesn't recruit highly rated players.

Oy vey...

Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

Byrne hired RR for what he did at WVU not Michigan.
If the Facilities were the answer to our recruiting based then how come not a dozen 4 star and 5 star consider of playing for Arizona or In state player not choosing Arizona.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:07 pm

Fishclamps wrote:
Merkin wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.
I hate the bye week excuse. Supposing next week would be the Cats' bye week? Doesn't explain the blow outs prior to the bye week.
I don't hate it, every other p12 school gets one except Rado and that was their choice. Bye weeks help teams recuperate and rebalance during the season. No bye week means just one game to the next with no rest in between. Add the lovely game times we're getting coming up and its just a recipe for injury and bad feelings all around.

Yeah i know theres nothing we can do about it, and bitching doesn't help, but it's still a stupid system.

We had three byes weeks at the begin of the season

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:07 pm

TheGreatCatsby wrote:The Okg thing isn't cutting it...

You better hope DC4AZCATS doesn't read that

On a related note our complete lack of team speed, especially on defense, was seriously exposed tonight.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:08 pm

RR with some very poor 4th down choices

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:08 pm

cordera89 wrote:
Byrne hired RR for what he did at WVU not Michigan.
If the Facilities were the answer to our recruiting based then how come not a dozen 4 star and 5 star consider of playing for Arizona or In state player not choosing Arizona.

RR recruited two and three star guys at WVU. That's what he does.

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:09 pm

Usually RR looks furious at something on the sidelines, winning or not. He's always disappointed with how things turn out because hes a perfectionist like that with how he wants his scheme to go. But tonight, he just looks like he's packed it in. Haven't seem him look like that before.

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:09 pm

Salty wrote:
Fishclamps wrote:
Merkin wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.
I hate the bye week excuse. Supposing next week would be the Cats' bye week? Doesn't explain the blow outs prior to the bye week.
I don't hate it, every other p12 school gets one except Rado and that was their choice. Bye weeks help teams recuperate and rebalance during the season. No bye week means just one game to the next with no rest in between. Add the lovely game times we're getting coming up and its just a recipe for injury and bad feelings all around.

Yeah i know theres nothing we can do about it, and bitching doesn't help, but it's still a stupid system.
We had three byes weeks at the begin of the season

Games are still games, and they still need to be played. Cupcakes or not, they were not bye weeks.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:11 pm

It will be interesting to see if Byrne has the balls to do what is obviously necessary in the off-season.

It won't matter if we lose the next 3 games 70-0, RRod won't dump his drinking buddies.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:11 pm

Fishclamps wrote:Usually RR looks furious at something on the sidelines, winning or not. He's always disappointed with how things turn out because hes a perfectionist like that with how he wants his scheme to go. But tonight, he just looks like he's packed it in. Haven't seem him look like that before.

That's what bugs me. It's like the team came into this game prepared to lose.

And now insult to injury crediting Petersen with the OKG.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:11 pm

What? Washington recruits OKGs?

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:15 pm

Salty wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Byrne hired RR for what he did at WVU not Michigan.
If the Facilities were the answer to our recruiting based then how come not a dozen 4 star and 5 star consider of playing for Arizona or In state player not choosing Arizona.
RR recruited two and three star guys at WVU. That's what he does.

WVU wasn't powerhouse teams that attracted a dozen of 4star and 5star but he did brought in a few of those during his time.
Arizona isn't a powerhouse.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:15 pm

Merkin wrote:What? Washington recruits OKGs?

Petersen uses the same "OKG" phrase, has since his time at Boise.

Although, he also does get some highly rated players.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:15 pm

Merkin wrote:What? Washington recruits OKGs?

Yes its been well known for two years now that Perterson has the OKG mentality.

Since he is winning he gets to use it today.

Salty · Post by **Salty** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:16 pm

cordera89 wrote:
Salty wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Byrne hired RR for what he did at WVU not Michigan.
If the Facilities were the answer to our recruiting based then how come not a dozen 4 star and 5 star consider of playing for Arizona or In state player not choosing Arizona.
RR recruited two and three star guys at WVU. That's what he does.
WVU wasn't powerhouse teams that attracted a dozen of 4star and 5star but he did brought in a few of those during his time.
Arizona isn't a powerhouse.

Arizona has considerably better facilities than WVU did.

Our recruiting classes are structured very similarly. Look them up.

Gladiator Cat · Post by **Gladiator Cat** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:17 pm

Salty wrote:
Merkin wrote:What? Washington recruits OKGs?
Petersen uses the same "OKG" phrase, has since his time at Boise.

Although, he also does get some highly rated players.

And has won big big games at BS.

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:06 am

Merkin wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:
RiseAndFire wrote:defense sure is banged up - gee wouldn't it be nice to have a bye week between games LIKE EVERY FREAKING TEAM IN THR NATION?!!!

EFF YOU PAC 12 and your Stanford USC Notre Dame bullshit
Sorry, but it takes some otherworldly naivete to blame a loss this bad on injuries and no bye week.

RichRod is a good salesman, but not that good. The fight has gone out of our defense, top to bottom.
I hate the bye week excuse. Supposing next week would be the Cats' bye week? Doesn't explain the blow outs prior to the bye week.

^^^ This. EXACTLY.

I am so sick of reading about this; if we had be next week, does anyone really believe it would improve our chances at winning any of the last 3 games?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:11 am

Salty wrote:
TheGreatCatsby wrote:The Okg thing isn't cutting it...
It WOULD cut it if we had OKG's mixed in with some highly rated guys.

But we've got OKG's mixed in with Big Sky talent.

Umm... It seems like we recruit a number of guys with Big Sky talent. And a number of Big Sky players that are not OKG's.

All schools lose a lot of players to transfers, suspensions, etc.; I am not sure we have a big advantage over the competition with our "OKG strategy" in that regard.

As mentioned above - for a strategy that supposedly stresses speed over size (and the supposed reason why we have so many low-rated recruits... "Burner speed at tweener size" - this team seems to lack speed all over the field on both sides of the ball.

What we lack in speed we make up for in lack of size.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:34 am

Salty wrote:
cordera89 wrote:
Salty wrote:At least it's nice that asu sucks too.

Yea but ASU didn't score 3 point in their lose to Oregon did they.
asu still sucks.

We probably suck more. But they suck too.

Ok because they way I look at it is ASU isn't struggle to stop a weak ass offense like UW.
If ASU suck in your opinion because they lost to Oregon in OT and put up 720 yard of total offense and their defense had just make one stop.
Overall Their the much better team than we are.

cordera89 · Post by **cordera89** » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:43 am

Harvey Specter wrote:
Salty wrote:
TheGreatCatsby wrote:The Okg thing isn't cutting it...
It WOULD cut it if we had OKG's mixed in with some highly rated guys.

But we've got OKG's mixed in with Big Sky talent.
Umm... It seems like we recruit a number of guys with Big Sky talent. And a number of Big Sky players that are not OKG's.

All schools lose a lot of players to transfers, suspensions, etc.; I am not sure we have a big advantage over the competition with our "OKG strategy" in that regard.

As mentioned above - for a strategy that supposedly stresses speed over size (and the supposed reason why we have so many low-rated recruits... "Burner speed at tweener size" - this team seems to lack speed all over the field on both sides of the ball.

What we lack in speed we make up for in lack of size.

But how is RR going to convince better quality player to complete at Arizona when UCLA and USC Hold the entire state of CAL in their back pocket. Even worst In state kids don't even want to stay or play for Arizona.

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