(M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

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Men's Game 5: SOUTH DAKOTA STATE (4-2) at #14/14 ARIZONA (4-0)
Date: Thursday, Nov. 21
Time: 7:06 p.m. (MST)
Location: Tucson, Ariz. - McKale Center (14,644)
TV: Pac-12 Networks (Sutton & Muehlebach)
Radio: Arizona IMG Sports Network (Jeffries & Hansen), 1290 AM 107.5 FM

Game Notes: https://arizonawildcats.com/documents/2 ... aState.pdf" target="_blank
Game Article: https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2019/1 ... state.aspx" target="_blank
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Cats opened as a 23 point favorite against a pretty decent perennial conference leader. They have won their conference 6 times in the last 8 years I think.

That line might be to much to give. Thinking the under of 146 makes more sense given both teams defensive emphasis. First half line is AZ -13.5. Should be a fun game to watch
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Line took a SHARP turn. All the way up to -24.5. Me thinks the nation like these cats. Might be another cover but still like the under. Cats are the darling of college bball
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azcat49 wrote:Line took a SHARP turn. All the way up to -24.5. Me thinks the nation like these cats. Might be another cover but still like the under. Cats are the darling of college bball
4-0 ATS... betting community waking up placing the line 2.5 pts above the KenPom projected spread.
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This year is the first time in a long time I look forward to UA basketball games, even days in advance. It's more fun to follow the UA when they are elite. Looking back at rosters I don't see any roster that goes as deep as this team.

87-88 - Elliott, Kerr, Tolbert, Cook, McMillan, Lofton, Buechler, and Mason.

00-01 - Gardner, Arenas, Woods, Wright, Jefferson, Walton, Edgerson, Wessel, and Frazier.

02-03 - Gardner, Stoudamire, Walton, Frye, Anderson, Iguodala, Adams, Fox (Bynum left after 1st semester)

12-13 - McConnell, Johnson, Ashley, Hollis-Jefferson, Gordon, Tark, York

Then look at this year.

Mannion, Green, Nnaji, Jeter, Smith, Doutrive, Baker, Hazzard, Lee, Gettings
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SDS sure isn't intimidated.
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Merkin wrote:SDS sure isn't intimidated.
They came to play. You can tell they are well coached.
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Ugh, slow start
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What a pass by Green - bummer he didn't get the assist for that one.

I like our play so far but it seems clear that we're itching for a real fight. We'll get some of that next week.
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4 TOs already
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Catintheheat wrote:This year is the first time in a long time I look forward to UA basketball games, even days in advance. It's more fun to follow the UA when they are elite. Looking back at rosters I don't see any roster that goes as deep as this team.

87-88 - Elliott, Kerr, Tolbert, Cook, McMillan, Lofton, Buechler, and Mason.

00-01 - Gardner, Arenas, Woods, Wright, Jefferson, Walton, Edgerson, Wessel, and Frazier.

02-03 - Gardner, Stoudamire, Walton, Frye, Anderson, Iguodala, Adams, Fox (Bynum left after 1st semester)

12-13 - McConnell, Johnson, Ashley, Hollis-Jefferson, Gordon, Tark, York

Then look at this year.

Mannion, Green, Nnaji, Jeter, Smith, Doutrive, Baker, Hazzard, Lee, Gettings
You missed a certain year with a future Nat'l player of the year with a 19 year NBA career coming off the bench
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UAEebs86 wrote:That’s traveling
I said the same thing to my wife.
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We're currently not a good rebounding team, but so far this season we have a good team FG% that might contribute to that but still not a good board team.
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84Cat wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:This year is the first time in a long time I look forward to UA basketball games, even days in advance. It's more fun to follow the UA when they are elite. Looking back at rosters I don't see any roster that goes as deep as this team.

87-88 - Elliott, Kerr, Tolbert, Cook, McMillan, Lofton, Buechler, and Mason.

00-01 - Gardner, Arenas, Woods, Wright, Jefferson, Walton, Edgerson, Wessel, and Frazier.

02-03 - Gardner, Stoudamire, Walton, Frye, Anderson, Iguodala, Adams, Fox (Bynum left after 1st semester)

12-13 - McConnell, Johnson, Ashley, Hollis-Jefferson, Gordon, Tark, York

Then look at this year.

Mannion, Green, Nnaji, Jeter, Smith, Doutrive, Baker, Hazzard, Lee, Gettings
You missed a certain year with a future Nat'l player of the year with a 19 year NBA career coming off the bench
Also the Aaron Gordon year, my favorite of the Miller era.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
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84Cat wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:This year is the first time in a long time I look forward to UA basketball games, even days in advance. It's more fun to follow the UA when they are elite. Looking back at rosters I don't see any roster that goes as deep as this team.

87-88 - Elliott, Kerr, Tolbert, Cook, McMillan, Lofton, Buechler, and Mason.

00-01 - Gardner, Arenas, Woods, Wright, Jefferson, Walton, Edgerson, Wessel, and Frazier.

02-03 - Gardner, Stoudamire, Walton, Frye, Anderson, Iguodala, Adams, Fox (Bynum left after 1st semester)

12-13 - McConnell, Johnson, Ashley, Hollis-Jefferson, Gordon, Tark, York

Then look at this year.

Mannion, Green, Nnaji, Jeter, Smith, Doutrive, Baker, Hazzard, Lee, Gettings
You missed a certain year with a future Nat'l player of the year with a 19 year NBA career coming off the bench
I thought of them. Terry, Edgerson, Harris, Lee off the bench. But that was it. Harris couldn't shoot FT. I consider that team as a team that peaked the right time. But they finished 5th in the conference and I didn't think they were one of the best rosters. They were resilient though. They won a lot of close games in the tourney.
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Can Baker stop jacking 3s?
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CSM sweating early. Gonna lose 5 lbs. tonight.
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Quit chucking!
azcat49 wrote:Line took a SHARP turn. All the way up to -24.5. Me thinks the nation like these cats. Might be another cover but still like the under. Cats are the darling of college bball

Wonder what they think now?
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Ok this is one we need to get back into
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This is a really good test. Let's see how resilient the Cats are.
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RondaeShimmy wrote:We're currently not a good rebounding team, but so far this season we have a good team FG% that might contribute to that but still not a good board team.
Same thing happening with Louisville - shooting too well that their rebounding % is lower than they're used to.
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Hi Nico
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They're #212 in Kenpom
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wtf is this start
down 14-24 halfway through the first half?!
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Catintheheat wrote:This is a really good test. Let's see how resilient the Cats are.
This doesn't feel like a test at all. SDSU is terrible.
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I like this SDSU team. No easy buckets tonight
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84Cat wrote:I like this SDSU team. No easy buckets tonight
I agree. They are playing inspired.
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Key v Nico
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Is it me, or does it seem that many times the Cats start a run, and the fans get into the game, right before a TV timeout.
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I hate that fucking van camping commercial.

I liked the one last year when the guy bought a van online.
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Catintheheat wrote:Is it me, or does it seem that many times the Cats start a run, and the fans get into the game, right before a TV timeout.
Ah, the old Phil Jackson observation that basketball should have no time outs and no commercials.
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That was obviously a 2. Why is this taking so long?
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Well I guess this is money well spent, giving us a game.
Arizona State might have the most surprisingly anemic history in men's basketball of any program that you might think is better than it is.
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DS is not playing his role. Bring in Baker or Hazzard.
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how did we lose a point?
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Dylan Smith, I swear to God...
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Miller hasn’t called a timeout
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CalStateTempe wrote:how did we lose a point?
Nico's three was a two
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CalStateTempe wrote:how did we lose a point?
Mannion stepped on the line when he shot a three.
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Dylan Smith is like Dion Waiters in that he thinks he's the best player on the court
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The Cats are being outplayed so far tonight. Perhaps the accolades has gone to their heads and they have lost the edge.
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Soo we gonna lose to South Dakota St?
i was going to put the ua/asu records here...but i forgot what they were.

i'll just go with fuck asu.
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Challenge Nico. DO IT
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Wish we had a big who could shoot a three

Forgot about Gettings, maybe that's the problem
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Some say Josh Green is a better NBA prospect than Nnaji.
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Merkin wrote:I hate that fucking van camping commercial.

I liked the one last year when the guy bought a van online.
Is it the same people?
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This is awful. We have low energy and when the energy turns up, we do something dumb.
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they scouted us well, which means what it always means, they will be competitive.
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