(M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:46 pm

Zeke has not even attempted a shot tonight. Got to get him the ball.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:46 pm

It was cold today

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:47 pm

I think josh would play like 36 MPG if we only played competitive games

also the jackrabbits are daring him to shoot the 3pter

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:47 pm

Our work on the glass in the 2h will like night and day.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:48 pm

#35 on SDSU is too big for any of the wings and too mobile for anybody the bigs on this team.

I feel like Arizona will struggle against player's like that, the Dillon Brooks types.

Unfortunately we don't have anyone taller than 6'5 who can play in the wing defensively.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:50 pm

More pts in the paint please

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:51 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:#35 on SDSU is too big for any of the wings and too mobile for anybody the bigs on this team.

I feel like Arizona will struggle against player's like that, the Dillon Brooks types.

Unfortunately we don't have anyone taller than 6'5 who can play in the wing defensively.

Josh green needs to be the guy that handles that duty

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:52 pm

Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:52 pm

Well that was a boring half.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:53 pm

Depth and big men who can take their time to get efficient post buckets - it's going to save us from time to time.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:53 pm

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:54 pm

TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.

Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:55 pm

Outrebounded by 5 with 12 turnovers. We're both lethargic and sloppy.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:55 pm

TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.

Your basketball knowledge dwarfs mine and most of us—so I’m sure you’re right. But in the end they scored 32 points. And shot better than they will moving forward. It’s not about our defense. It’s what we are doing to ourselves (and they are doing to us) on offense.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 pm

Well, we could play zone and put in Koloko but that won't happen

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 pm

TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.

Sigh, I'd like to argue but you're right.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 pm

Frybry02 wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:#35 on SDSU is too big for any of the wings and too mobile for anybody the bigs on this team.

I feel like Arizona will struggle against player's like that, the Dillon Brooks types.

Unfortunately we don't have anyone taller than 6'5 who can play in the wing defensively.
Josh green needs to be the guy that handles that duty

They're using this #35 guy who is like 6'7 in the post so Arizona can't do that.

Ira Lee should be the one, guy is killing Nnaji and Jeter attacking. He's too fast for them.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot

Yep, South Dakota State's coach is really good. I'm surprised he hasn't found a better job.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:57 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Outrebounded by 5 with 12 turnovers. We're both lethargic and sloppy.

It’s a bold strategy Cotton.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:58 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:
Frybry02 wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:#35 on SDSU is too big for any of the wings and too mobile for anybody the bigs on this team.

I feel like Arizona will struggle against player's like that, the Dillon Brooks types.

Unfortunately we don't have anyone taller than 6'5 who can play in the wing defensively.
Josh green needs to be the guy that handles that duty
They're using this #35 guy who is like 6'7 in the post so Arizona can't do that.

Ira Lee should be the one, guy is killing Nnaji and Jeter attacking. He's too fast for them.

Except IRA would foul out in 5min. Refs love calling him on shit they let other people play through

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:58 pm

TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.

“We were down 2 at the half but it might as well have been 40.”

Now we’re down 3. Don’t tell PJC!

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:59 pm

Catintheheat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot
Yep, South Dakota State's coach is really good. I'm surprised he hasn't found a better job.

It’s his first year there. Or that’s what I thought I heard.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:59 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot

Noir or grigio?

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:59 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot
Yep, South Dakota State's coach is really good. I'm surprised he hasn't found a better job.
It’s his first year there. Or that’s what I thought I heard.

That makes sense. If he keeps coaching like this he won't be there for long.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:02 pm

We have 3 assists and 12 TOs. Got no rhythm yet.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:03 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Your basketball knowledge dwarfs mine and most of us—so I’m sure you’re right. But in the end they scored 32 points. And shot better than they will moving forward. It’s not about our defense. It’s what we are doing to ourselves (and they are doing to us) on offense.

Its a bit of both, because things could be much worse. While we have 12 TOs, they have 13 of their own. Not worried, because I think well break through on offense (in the paint, drives, post ups, offensive rebounds) and the D will come around. Here is my full take:

Pretty obvious they watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble. They are also competing and active on defense. Controlling the paint with numbers and bodies.

Meanwhile, defense on the ball has just been sloppy. Some unnecessary switches, splits on hedges, beat off the dribble, stupid fouls, giving up offensive rebounds, not hustling to get back into defensive position after the initial action.

This half looks like a bunch of young/new guys in the program. Lets see what adjustments Miller makes at the half. Thinking we see less trapping those side ball screens, playing a bit more straight Miller packline to keep guys in position.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:03 pm

ByJoveByJingle wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot
Yep, South Dakota State's coach is really good. I'm surprised he hasn't found a better job.
It’s his first year there. Or that’s what I thought I heard.

Yep, first year as HC. He was the assistant coach for the 3 years prior

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:06 pm

Beat in every aspect of this game so far

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:08 pm

Postmaster wrote:
Merkin wrote:I hate that fucking van camping commercial.

I liked the one last year when the guy bought a van online.
Is it the same people?

I don't think so. This guy is such a wimp and really unlikable.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:09 pm

TucsonClip wrote:
ByJoveByJingle wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Your basketball knowledge dwarfs mine and most of us—so I’m sure you’re right. But in the end they scored 32 points. And shot better than they will moving forward. It’s not about our defense. It’s what we are doing to ourselves (and they are doing to us) on offense.
Its a bit of both, because things could be much worse. While we have 12 TOs, they have 13 of their own. Not worried, because I think well break through on offense (in the paint, drives, post ups, offensive rebounds) and the D will come around. Here is my full take:

Pretty obvious they watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble. They are also competing and active on defense. Controlling the paint with numbers and bodies.

Meanwhile, defense on the ball has just been sloppy. Some unnecessary switches, splits on hedges, beat off the dribble, stupid fouls, giving up offensive rebounds, not hustling to get back into defensive position after the initial action.

This half looks like a bunch of young/new guys in the program. Lets see what adjustments Miller makes at the half. Thinking we see less trapping those side ball screens, playing a bit more straight Miller packline to keep guys in position.

Yeah those offensive rebounds are killing us, too. Thanks as always for your knowledgeable insight!

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:10 pm

Double foul for nnaji 3rd. Fuck outta here refs

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:11 pm

TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.

every competent team has done the same thing to us for the last 5 years

slip pnr, empty side pnPop to a wide open 3 (they have one this game from that), split the pnr, quick short roll to hit the backside corner 3pt, stop that back screen for the big from the corner pass, etc

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:13 pm

Zeke mad.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:13 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
every competent team has done the same thing to us for the last 5 years

slip pnr, empty side pnPop to a wide open 3 (they have one this game from that), split the pnr, quick short roll to hit the backside corner 3pt, stop that back screen for the big from the corner pass, etc

Did we lose to every competent team in the last 5 years? That would suck if we did.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:13 pm

You can see the Cats are playing with a little more energy. It's amazing how much energy and effort are a difference maker.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:15 pm

Get to the fucking rim. No more settling.

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:15 pm

DS doesn't need to be the playmaker.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:16 pm

Dylan Smith steps out of bound.... some things never change!

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:17 pm

Dylan Smith and Carmelo Anthony: where ball movement goes to die.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:17 pm

I need Smith to never put the ball on the floor

billk78 · Post by **billk78** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:22 pm

Smith and Doutrive just playing completely out of control. Driving into 3 guys or chucking up bad shots. Wheres Hazzard?

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:24 pm

This is more like it.

dovecanyoncat · Post by **dovecanyoncat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm

Fuck Yeah! Baker!!!

Post by **UAdevil** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm

Nice little run.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm

There is nothing Dylan Smith does better than J Baker.

It's so frustrating.

Postmaster · Post by **Postmaster** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm

More dunks, that’s my coaching suggestion

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm

AZCatGirl wrote:This is more like it.

Liking this lineup

FreeSpiritCat · Post by **FreeSpiritCat** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm

AZCatGirl wrote:This is more like it.

The Cats are going to learn a lot from this game. Mainly who to put on the floor against a team like this.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm

billk78 wrote:Smith and Doutrive just playing completely out of control. Driving into 3 guys or chucking up bad shots. Wheres Hazzard?

Doutrive has been disappointing. Not that I don’t see any hope or way forward, but based on reports I expected better from him. This just feels like a continuation of last year—flashes of brilliance and a lot of frustration.

U.P. Zona Fan · Post by **U.P. Zona Fan** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:26 pm

Good thing I switched chairs, gonna burn that other one.

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