(M) Game Battle 4 Atlantis: Arizona v. Oklahoma

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:31 am

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Thursday, November 28
3:00 PM MT
ESPN
Arizona -4.5
Arizona versus Oklahoma Odds

Arizona is a 4,5 point favorite over Oklahoma per FanDuel. Taking Oklahoma and the points is minus 102 and Arizona and laying the points is minus 120. Arizona is minus 205 and Oklahoma is plus 168. The over/under is 153.5. The over is minus 115 and the under is minus 105.

Arizona versus Oklahoma All-Time Series

Oklahoma has won five of the previous seven games versus Arizona. The Sooners have won the previous three games at neutral sites versus Arizona. All three of those games were in the NCAA Tournament.

Arizona versus Oklahoma TV

Arizona and Oklahoma will tipoff at 3:00 PM Mountain Standard Time on ESPN with Dave O'Brien calling play-by-play and Jimmy Dykes as the analyst.

Looking ahead

The Arizona-Oklahoma loser will play on Friday at 1:00 PM MST in the Battle 4 Atlantis third-place game on ESPN. The winner will play in the Championship Game at 3:30 PM MST on Friday.

Fishclamps · Post by **Fishclamps** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:53 pm

I will have my stream up, but won't be here in case anything happens

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:09 pm

Thanks Fish! Can't imagine ESPN switching this game over.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:45 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:09 pm Thanks Fish! Can't imagine ESPN switching this game over.

College football starts at 5:30 Tucson time. Hopefully our game is done by then or I'm sure they will switch us again.

LuteIsGod · Post by **LuteIsGod** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:39 pm

So many fucking 3s early in the shot clock…..get to the basket

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:42 pm

Have to put the ball in the hole

g32knights · Post by **g32knights** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:43 pm

No made shots from a starter….

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:45 pm

ADO is our best scoring option

g32knights · Post by **g32knights** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:50 pm

This team is awful offensively.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:50 pm

OU is dressing us

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:51 pm

g32knights wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:50 pm This team is awful offensively.

Yep. It may be a long year.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:51 pm

2-16 FGs, with OU playing some killer defense.

Love 0-4, 0-2.

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:53 pm

You think CTL is getting the message to prioritize athleticism and size? These Gonzaga style multi year projects are killing us.

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:56 pm

I guess this is the Delly tournament!

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:57 pm

RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:53 pm You think CTL is getting the message to prioritize athleticism and size? These Gonzaga style multi year projects are killing us.

The Gonzaga style multi-year projects (Euros) don't require much NIL.......thats the world we live in now.

I still don't think most posters on this board have figured that out yet.

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:00 pm

There's plenty of guys who don't need NIL dollars to compete and play for a winning program. And this problem was here before pay for play became an thing.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:03 pm

RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:00 pm There's plenty of guys who don't need NIL dollars to compete and play for a winning program. And this problem was here before pay for play became an thing.

Are you posting from Fantasy Island????????

The top players are getting paid major $$$$$$$$$$$. This is no longer an amateur sport.

A college prorgram is going to get what they pay for. Period.

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:06 pm

Do you pay attention? Which places more focus on scouting and development. Plenty of guys underperforming at lesser programs like Pelle.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:11 pm

RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:06 pm Do you pay attention? Which places more focus on scouting and development. Plenty of guys underperforming at lesser programs like Pelle.

Yes, I pay attention, unlike you.

The best players are going to the schools with the most NIL. The SEC has turned into a powerhouse in college basketball
due in a large part to all of that football loot they have.

Or maybe you think that all of those players entering the portal each year are doing so for purely altruistic reasons??

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:15 pm

Hence the word scouting. Gonzaga made their reputation from finding guys that are under the radar. Did you read anything I said?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:19 pm

29% shooting and 18% from 3. We should be down a lot more. Getting out rebounded by 5

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:22 pm

RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:15 pm Hence the word scouting. Gonzaga made their reputation from finding guys that are under the radar. Did you read anything I said?

That was BEFORE NIL.........and Lloyd was one of the primary recruiters at Gonzaga.

Its a different world now.

pc in NM · Post by **pc in NM** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:26 pm

I'm with big family gathering, so can't participate much

My 1st half observations:

Watched IU earlier, and saw Ballo playing. So far, none of our three bigs are a good replacement.

ADO is the best shooter and entry passer on the team - I think he's showing more improvement at this time of year than anyone else on the team. Starting backcourt FG 2/12, ADO 3/6...

I'm getting depressed watching that starting backcourt repeatedly miss open shots.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:26 pm

dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:03 pm
RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:00 pm There's plenty of guys who don't need NIL dollars to compete and play for a winning program. And this problem was here before pay for play became an thing.
Are you posting from Fantasy Island????????

The top players are getting paid major $$$$$$$$$$$. This is no longer an amateur sport.

A college prorgram is going to get what they pay for. Period.

The Players Era Festival, anchored by Houston, Alabama and Rutgers, plans to give $1 million in NIL payouts to every participating team. Naw NIL mean nothing

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:33 pm

dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:22 pm
RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:15 pm Hence the word scouting. Gonzaga made their reputation from finding guys that are under the radar. Did you read anything I said?
That was BEFORE NIL.........and Lloyd was one of the primary recruiters at Gonzaga.

Its a different world now.

Totally missing the point. Of course NIL matters, never said it didnt. But to get the guys we need, we have to be better at finding athletic guys who we can coach up. And put NIL towards the marquee guys. But if you want to put words in my mouth, go ahead.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:40 pm

RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:33 pm
dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:22 pm
RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:15 pm Hence the word scouting. Gonzaga made their reputation from finding guys that are under the radar. Did you read anything I said?
That was BEFORE NIL.........and Lloyd was one of the primary recruiters at Gonzaga.

Its a different world now.
Totally missing the point. Of course NIL matters, never said it didnt. But to get the guys we need, we have to be better at finding athletic guys who we can coach up. And put NIL towards the marquee guys. But if you want to put words in my mouth, go ahead.

Yes, you did say it didn't........."There's plenty of guys who don't need NIL dollars to compete and play for a winning program".

And all of those athletic guys you mention are going to the schools (primarily SEC/B1G) with the big $$$$NIL$$$$

RawleArenas · Post by **RawleArenas** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:45 pm

That's not saying it doesn't matter. Geeze, are you being intentionally thick? Wasting my time.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:48 pm

We need to stop these stupid techicals

LuteIsGod · Post by **LuteIsGod** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:50 pm

84Cat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:48 pm We need to stop these stupid techicals

Is that KJ’s 2nd of the year?

Djcat · Post by **Djcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:51 pm

Not the time for stupid T. Literally getting momentum going and kills it with a stupid finger point.

Djcat · Post by **Djcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:52 pm

This team is not poised, can’t shoot, can’t really defend. It’s not a tourney team right now

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:01 pm

And get within 3, then stop playing defense. Those were some wide open 3s.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:02 pm

ADO didn't get back on that 3 point play

g32knights · Post by **g32knights** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:03 pm

Give up wide open threes, can’t rebound, jog back on defense.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:05 pm

OU with 14 offensive boards. 11-25 3s.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:16 pm

We are super mid. Going to be a long season. I’m just hoping to make the tourney, the rest is gravy from there.

Abrahamarvel · Post by **Abrahamarvel** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:16 pm

Gonna be a looong year

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:18 pm

3 point shooting and rebounds

Game Stats

Oklahoma UA
24-54 (44.4%) Field Goals 26-58 (44.8%)
16-17 (94.1%) Free Throws12-15 (80%)
12-28 (42.9%) Three Pointers 5-15 (33.3%)
30 Total Rebounds 25
17 Assists 12

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:28 pm

Love is who he is.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:33 pm

3-3 will drop the Cats out of the top 25 and deservedly so.

Just not a good mix of players.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:36 pm

So undisciplined. Lloyd just struggles with using his bench to teach guys hard lessons. You can’t just tell them you love them and hope that changes behavior.

This team as it is right now, won’t make the tournament. Probably will come back from Atlantis 3-4

Still haven’t beat a +.500 power 4/5 team since Oregon last year

LuteIsGod · Post by **LuteIsGod** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:44 pm

azcat49 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:36 pm So undisciplined. Lloyd just struggles with using his bench to teach guys hard lessons. You can’t just tell them you love them and hope that changes behavior.

This team as it is right now, won’t make the tournament. Probably will come back from Atlantis 3-4

Still haven’t beat a +.500 power 4/5 team since Oregon last year

Lute used to have the assistants lay into the players. I remember that fact fondly because we had excellent student seats behind the basket closest to our bench in ‘98.

LuteIsGod · Post by **LuteIsGod** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:46 pm

We attacked the basket pretty well towards the end of the game. The poor decisions to shoot exclusively 3s during the first 5 minutes put us into a hole that really hurt us down the stretch.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:46 pm

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:33 pm 3-3 will drop the Cats out of the top 25 and deservedly so.

Just not a good mix of players.

I think its more of a case of not very good players as opposed to the "Mix"

The Fears kid from Oklahoma has NBA written all over him.......I can't say that for any of the UA perimeter players.

The better team won today, its hard to get too upset about it.

TheCat · Post by **TheCat** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:13 pm

dmjcat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:11 pm
RawleArenas wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:06 pm Do you pay attention? Which places more focus on scouting and development. Plenty of guys underperforming at lesser programs like Pelle.
Yes, I pay attention, unlike you.

The best players are going to the schools with the most NIL. The SEC has turned into a powerhouse in college basketball
due in a large part to all of that football loot they have.

Or maybe you think that all of those players entering the portal each year are doing so for purely altruistic reasons??

Yes and the love of the game and tradition got Rutgers two of the top players in the land and ASU got a top 2 center this year because of great player development. ASU center is really good if you want to be more depressed.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:00 pm

azcat49 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:36 pm Lloyd just struggles with using his bench to teach guys hard lessons.

Not going to change either. UA will live or die by Love.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Nov 29, 2024 5:06 am

Merkin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:00 pm
azcat49 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:36 pm Lloyd just struggles with using his bench to teach guys hard lessons.
Not going to change either. UA will live or die by Love.

Cats need to hit more shots.
26% 3pt not going to get it.

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