Pac-12 Tournament Game 2, vs. Oregon (2015-2016)

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PieceOfMeat wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:So you're ok with billk78 saying the same thing I am but ny comment is bullshit?

Just the opposite, in fact. There's no way anyone could say otherwise. Quit turning on fans and let's start challenging this team to stop doggin' it on the floor.
well obviously you're wrong, since I did say otherwise.

Thing 1 can be true.

Thing 2 can be true.

Thing 1 being true can have no bearing on thing 2 being true.

There's no way anyone could say otherwise.

AZ playing like it's playing isn't winning this game, quite obviously, but that has no bearing on the craptastic officiating and being able to point out just how craptastic it is.
The officiating has had zero impact on this deficit. None.

It is flat-out irresponsible to try and justify that.

No, POM, it is you who are wrong in this case.
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legallykenny wrote:
pokinmik wrote:Our guys keep driving to the hole with this weak ass layups without ever pump faking or putting a move on. Oregon keeps swatting them and it fueled their run. Just lazy all around for us pretty much.
This team is really not athletic so they can't finish or even create enough contact to get the foul call.
It doesnt matter how athletic you are, if your a guard and drive by your man and there are two 6'9 guys in the paint, your shit gets sent into the second row. If you get the ball on the low block and take your sweet ass time putting it in the hoop, and bend over and make yourself 6'3 and do half ass pump fakes and wait 2 seconds so a second defender can get on u, and then try to go up with it, your shit gets sent into the second row.
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billk78 wrote:
legallykenny wrote:I hope this year has been a learning experience for Sean. No more relying on transfers and you have to have a PG in college basketball.

Don't think I'm going to really miss anyone from this team except for Zeus.
That's a bit harsh. Oregon is a horrible matchup for us. By getting grad transfers and turning Kadeem into a somewhat reasonable PG, Miller had this team win a lot more games than they should have, especially considering all the injuries.
Point is that he shouldn't have gotten himself into the position of needing these transfers and running out s makeshift garbage PG. If a guy lasts three or four years at another school and still needs more college ball, he's not good enough.
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rgdeuce wrote:Refs have been bad, but we are doing a good enough job of embarrassing ourselves to where u cant even be mad about it. If our guys dont want to get up for a big game like this, and embarrass themselves in the process, I just rather they take their jerseys off and get on the bus.

THIS TEAM JUST DOES NOT GET IT. They never will.
rgdeuce, they may not get it, but in truth this years team ceiling is just not very high. Ore has as good of a coaching staff as us, but they have an even better team from top to bottom than we do. Just too much speed and athleticism.

This really isn't that big of a surprise to me, except the blow out part.
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catgrad97 wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:So you're ok with billk78 saying the same thing I am but ny comment is bullshit?

Just the opposite, in fact. There's no way anyone could say otherwise. Quit turning on fans and let's start challenging this team to stop doggin' it on the floor.
well obviously you're wrong, since I did say otherwise.

Thing 1 can be true.

Thing 2 can be true.

Thing 1 being true can have no bearing on thing 2 being true.

There's no way anyone could say otherwise.

AZ playing like it's playing isn't winning this game, quite obviously, but that has no bearing on the craptastic officiating and being able to point out just how craptastic it is.
The officiating has had zero impact on this deficit. None.

It is flat-out irresponsible to try and justify that.

No, POM, it is you who are wrong in this case.
except i'm not, you're the one with the incorrect premise. I've never claimed the officiating is the reason we're losing. you seem to think I am. I'm not. I'm simply pointing out that it's bullshit to ask fans not to call out horrific officiating when they see it, regardless of whether or not the team is playing well or playing like crap.

horrible officiating should always be called out. always.
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Gladiator Cat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Refs have been bad, but we are doing a good enough job of embarrassing ourselves to where u cant even be mad about it. If our guys dont want to get up for a big game like this, and embarrass themselves in the process, I just rather they take their jerseys off and get on the bus.

THIS TEAM JUST DOES NOT GET IT. They never will.
rgdeuce, they may not get it, but in truth this years team ceiling is just not very high. Ore has as good of a coaching staff as us, but they have an even better team from top to bottom than we do. Just too much speed and athleticism.

This really isn't that big of a surprise to me, except the blow out part.
All of our losses except for one is a product of our own doing. The ceiling talk is bullshit. A better way to look at it is this team does not have the superior talent to sleepwalk through games and win.
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Trier!
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what a move by 'zo
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Oh for fucks sake. . .
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Cue Merkin's fat lady image....
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rgdeuce wrote:
Gladiator Cat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Refs have been bad, but we are doing a good enough job of embarrassing ourselves to where u cant even be mad about it. If our guys dont want to get up for a big game like this, and embarrass themselves in the process, I just rather they take their jerseys off and get on the bus.

THIS TEAM JUST DOES NOT GET IT. They never will.
rgdeuce, they may not get it, but in truth this years team ceiling is just not very high. Ore has as good of a coaching staff as us, but they have an even better team from top to bottom than we do. Just too much speed and athleticism.

This really isn't that big of a surprise to me, except the blow out part.
All of our losses except for one is a product of our own doing. The ceiling talk is bullshit
+1.

Desire determines your ceiling. And nobody's stepping it up in March for this team.

Blaming others besides the players for this loss is such complete and utter BS it is ludicrous. No, this team has not put in the requisite effort justify blaming the refs.
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legallykenny wrote:
billk78 wrote:
legallykenny wrote:I hope this year has been a learning experience for Sean. No more relying on transfers and you have to have a PG in college basketball.

Don't think I'm going to really miss anyone from this team except for Zeus.
That's a bit harsh. Oregon is a horrible matchup for us. By getting grad transfers and turning Kadeem into a somewhat reasonable PG, Miller had this team win a lot more games than they should have, especially considering all the injuries.
Point is that he shouldn't have gotten himself into the position of needing these transfers and running out s makeshift garbage PG. If a guy lasts three or four years at another school and still needs more college ball, he's not good enough.
So true. We need the influx of talent next year in worst way. Best shot at winning a title is to have a dual threat, solid at minimum pg and a stable of athletic scoring and defending studs on the wing.
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question for ryan on the bench - is this another game where he sulks and we lose, or will he pull it together and gut out a W?
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wow, what a great couple of whistles in a row.
we totally breathed too hard on oregon
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catgrad97 wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:
Gladiator Cat wrote:
rgdeuce wrote:Refs have been bad, but we are doing a good enough job of embarrassing ourselves to where u cant even be mad about it. If our guys dont want to get up for a big game like this, and embarrass themselves in the process, I just rather they take their jerseys off and get on the bus.

THIS TEAM JUST DOES NOT GET IT. They never will.
rgdeuce, they may not get it, but in truth this years team ceiling is just not very high. Ore has as good of a coaching staff as us, but they have an even better team from top to bottom than we do. Just too much speed and athleticism.

This really isn't that big of a surprise to me, except the blow out part.
All of our losses except for one is a product of our own doing. The ceiling talk is bullshit
+1.

Desire determines your ceiling. And nobody's stepping it up in March for this team.

Blaming others besides the players for this loss is such complete and utter BS it is ludicrous. No, this team has not put in the requisite effort justify blaming the refs.

Floor. Desire is the floor. I can desire all I want. . .but I was never gonna start for FC Barcelona. Not that. . .talented.
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Chance!
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Damn I'm really loving Chance. Imagine what he'll be like as a senior.
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comanche. good things.
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Chance is blooming
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3 on Trier.
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OK, Ristic can go to Europe anytime. I'm ready for Comanche.
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More Chance, less Ristic!

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Trier should have 6 fouls by now, the refs should stop giving him preferential treatment
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Tarc BOOM!
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york :(
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And that's how you dunk Gabe.
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Absolute blow-by for Benjamin.

Need quicker guards.
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3 on The Bouch
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Thank God for Trier.
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dusan and ryan back on the floor. big test.
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Trier. . .boink . . .made.
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3 on Tech Guy.
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The guys are fighting. Yes! Keep fighting!
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Jesus Ryan
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off the court Ristic. Not Arizona good.

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Yes, Ristic needs to sit for the rest of the game.
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Clueless on the Boucher back-cut.

Activity and awareness on one end of the floor is a formula for first-round failure.
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dirtbags wrote:dusan and ryan back on the floor. big test.
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AZCatGirl wrote:Yes, Ristic needs to sit for the rest of the game.
Rest of the season. Comanche deserves his minutes.
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So many missed FTs...
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