(M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:53 pm

AZCatGirl wrote:This feels like the millionth time we've tried to make a comeback.

It's not happening.

If he yanked Jeter and went small we might have a chance

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:54 pm

Go small

Full court press

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:54 pm

Bearcats? Are we from Cincinnati now Bill?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:55 pm

Going zone and getting steals

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:55 pm

playing this zone is interesting

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:56 pm

Gave up an offensive board, I imagine that is the last we will see of the zone.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:57 pm

dmjcat wrote:
ByJoveByJingle wrote:Amazing how Miller won with mid-major talent with antiquated offense that just passed the ball around the perimeter. How did he do it? Witch.
He was playing mid-majors.......God you are a Genius

Haha you really aren’t worth engaging, are you?

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:01 pm

Why even try to play? Let's just take turns at the line the rest of the night.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:01 pm

These refs have ruined the game

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:05 pm

Must get Zeke a touch in the post before anyone is allowed to shoot.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:08 pm

St John's is now down 3 staters and Arizona might still lose

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:08 pm

WTF Nnaji

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:11 pm

Oh my...nice steal Nico

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:11 pm

Let's go!

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:12 pm

so with all these touch fouls being called. they don't call anything on the guy who smacked nico on the head as he stole that ball?

o....k

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:13 pm

So nobody can play defense, go it

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:14 pm

hAZZZARD FOR THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

damn st johns answered right back. nice shot over nnaji.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:15 pm

lol so we have the ball and can take the final shot to win.

who takes it?

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:16 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:lol so we have the ball and can take the final shot to win.

who takes it?

Nnaji, he can hit his fts

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:16 pm

Well that was a stupid play. We took a timeout for that?

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:17 pm

cats lose

lmfao at that final play call

fucking horrible

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:17 pm

And Koloko not in to grab the rebound because...?

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:17 pm

Walton was right........running the clock down was idiotic

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:18 pm

Snuck out and got on sling.

our end of game sets, when down perpetually suck.

That is on Miller too.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:18 pm

Just enough to make a loss interesting.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:19 pm

dmjcat wrote:Walton was right........running the clock down was idiotic

I don't agree with walton much. usually just mute it when he's talking, but yeah, he was right.

simply idiotic

AZCatGirl · Post by **AZCatGirl** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:20 pm

I feel like we would've had a better chance had Miller used up all his timeouts.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:20 pm

70-67 cats lose

another huge flop against a decent team

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:20 pm

At this point of the season.........4th-6th in the PAC12, 7-9 seed, bounced in the 1st/2nd round.

That can change.....but the Cats need to improve quite a bit in numerous areas

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:21 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose

lmfao at that final play call

fucking horrible

WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:22 pm

Yeah, nothing wrong with that last shot except it not going in. But there are obviously a lot of issues with the team right now.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:25 pm

ASU beat St John's by 13, and they had their starter Heron playing.

Also didn't have 2 other starters fouled out

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm

Just another game where a team go’s small and exploits Zeke on defense (but he is great on offense and our best big) and balls out on Nico and dares the other guys to beat them. They haven’t beat them yet.

Smith didn’t play in the second half so I guess he is firmly in the doghouse

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm

zonagrad wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose

lmfao at that final play call

fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.

we ran the clock too far down and let the guy who was 5 of 14 from 2 tonight shoot the ball instead of going through our strongest player in the game.

oh and we called a time out to come to the conclusion that this was our best option to win?

yeah, i'll call it fucking horrible.

if you're happy with it, that's cool too.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm

Losses suck. This one especially sucked. But at least this team finally stopped the hemorrhaging. So they can still turn it around, and almost certainly will. Not a pattern of three in the end -- just a pre-Christmas bump in the road.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm

I actually think this game is a bit of an epiphany for this team. Finally the realization that Dylan Smith can’t be getting 20 plus minutes a game. Getting Koloko more minutes. As bad as we played, if Baker hits a shot or two, we still win.

A tougher schedule early would’ve revealed these weaknesses. Better now than in March.

Nico played a great second half. Nnaji was solid as always and still needs more touches and EVERYONE needs to realize that. Green needs to be more aggressive on the offensive glass.

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:27 pm

TatetheGreat wrote:Our program is D-E-A-D.

R.I.P.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:27 pm

dmjcat wrote:At this point of the season.........4th-6th in the PAC12, 7-9 seed, bounced in the 1st/2nd round.

That can change.....but the Cats need to improve quite a bit in numerous areas

I'm beginning to think we're an NCAA bubble team. We may be getting bounced out of the NIT.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:27 pm

zonagrad wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose

lmfao at that final play call

fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.

Why burn the whole clock in case he misses the shot.

Worst case if he misses and there's still time on the clock and they make 2 FTs at the other end, Arizona still has a shot to make a 3 and send it to OT

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:29 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:
zonagrad wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose

lmfao at that final play call

fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
we ran the clock too far down and let the guy who was 5 of 14 from 2 tonight shoot the ball instead of going through our strongest player in the game.

oh and we called a time out to come to the conclusion that this was our best option to win?

yeah, i'll call it fucking horrible.

if you're happy with it, that's cool too.

Sure, St. John’s was just going to let Zeke get an open look in the low post. Mannion had a really good second half. This game was lost in the first half.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:29 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:
zonagrad wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose

lmfao at that final play call

fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
Why burn the whole clock in case he misses the shot.

Worst case if he misses and there's still time on the clock and they make 2 FTs at the other end, Arizona still has a shot to make a 3 and send it to OT

Yeah I agree. But that’s on Mannion.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:30 pm

zonagrad wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:
zonagrad wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose

lmfao at that final play call

fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
we ran the clock too far down and let the guy who was 5 of 14 from 2 tonight shoot the ball instead of going through our strongest player in the game.

oh and we called a time out to come to the conclusion that this was our best option to win?

yeah, i'll call it fucking horrible.

if you're happy with it, that's cool too.
Sure, St. John’s was just going to let Zeke get an open look in the low post. Mannion had a really good second half. This game was lost in the first half.

Like I said, if you're happy with it, that's cool too.

dmjcat · Post by **dmjcat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:31 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:
zonagrad wrote:
PieceOfMeat wrote:cats lose

lmfao at that final play call

fucking horrible
WTF are you talking about? Mannion got a great look at a shot he makes most of the time.
Why burn the whole clock in case he misses the shot.

Worst case if he misses and there's still time on the clock and they make 2 FTs at the other end, Arizona still has a shot to make a 3 and send it to OT

Ding, Ding, a winner.

Running the clock down was just plain STUPID.

PieceOfMeat · Post by **PieceOfMeat** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:31 pm

Longhorned wrote:Losses suck. This one especially sucked. But at least this team finally stopped the hemorrhaging. So they can still turn it around, and almost certainly will. Not a pattern of three in the end -- just a pre-Christmas bump in the road.

St John's had a horrific 2nd half, and still had enough to make the shot to seal the victory. Even with St. John's being that bad, we couldn't pull out the W. I'd say that bump is a bit bigger than you think it is.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:33 pm

I'll say it again

ASU beat a full strength St John's team by 13

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:34 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Losses suck. This one especially sucked. But at least this team finally stopped the hemorrhaging. So they can still turn it around, and almost certainly will. Not a pattern of three in the end -- just a pre-Christmas bump in the road.
St John's had a horrific 2nd half, and still had enough to make the shot to seal the victory. Even with St. John's being that bad, we couldn't pull out the W. I'd say that bump is a bit bigger than you think it is.

Totally agreed. This was a bad loss indicative of systemic issues that I don't really see getting resolved. Realistically I don't think we're much better this year than we were last year.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:38 pm

PieceOfMeat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Losses suck. This one especially sucked. But at least this team finally stopped the hemorrhaging. So they can still turn it around, and almost certainly will. Not a pattern of three in the end -- just a pre-Christmas bump in the road.
St John's had a horrific 2nd half, and still had enough to make the shot to seal the victory. Even with St. John's being that bad, we couldn't pull out the W. I'd say that bump is a bit bigger than you think it is.

Well, I think it was an especially bad loss, and deeply suckitudinous. But in the last 8:30, Arizona had something do with St. John's limitations. I'd also add that I'm quite the connoisseur of the pre-Christmas bad loss. Had Arizona finished the game like they started it, I'd say they're in trouble. They may still be in trouble, but I wouldn't bet on it. Not in this year's college basketball season especially.

ByJoveByJingle · Post by **ByJoveByJingle** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:39 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:I'll say it again

ASU beat a full strength St John's team by 13

They also lost to St Mary’s by 40. It’s a bad loss (by 3) to go with our other difficult losses to top 10 teams (by 4). It just seems crazy to go pinwheeling from euphoria to depression the way this board does.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:41 pm

zonagrad wrote:Finally the realization that Dylan Smith can’t be getting 20 plus minutes a game.

I'm concerned that Baker in his place was pure garbage.

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:50 pm

Longhorned wrote:
zonagrad wrote:Finally the realization that Dylan Smith can’t be getting 20 plus minutes a game.
I'm concerned that Baker in his place was pure garbage.

Baker didn’t shoot it well. Otherwise, he played ok. He’s better than Smith, I know that.

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