Bear Down Wildcats

dmjcat wrote:And we STILL have no clue how to attack a zone

TatetheGreat wrote:

dmjcat wrote:And we STILL have no clue how to attack a zone

If it hasn't happened by year nine, it's never gonna happen.

well it's certainly not encouraging is it

RondaeShimmy wrote:

pc in NM wrote:7:41 left in the half and Ayton has two shots??

WTF???

They clogg the passing lanes with the zone and collapse on him with 2-3 people.

So what??? He's the best big man in the country - and in Arizona history - and He's the third or fourth option on offense.

No excuse whatsoever

pc in NM wrote:Sean Miller has zero idea/motivation how to use a player of Ayton's size and skill...

... no other 7-footer should ever come here

I'm in denial no longer. Miller: Great, GREAT recruiter/ambassador, mediocre at best coach.

How often have you seen him pass out and get a return pass...

... Miller has no clue!!

pc in NM wrote:

RondaeShimmy wrote:

pc in NM wrote:7:41 left in the half and Ayton has two shots??

WTF???

They clogg the passing lanes with the zone and collapse on him with 2-3 people.

So what??? He's the best big man in the country - and in Arizona history - and He's the third or fourth option on offense.

No excuse whatsoever

Are you watching? They triple team him. Unacceptable if he takes shots when triple teamed

Tie game.

Tied let's go!

What would you expect to see if Ayton played for Self?

Crying Roy?

Coach K?

Izzo?

It's a Crying shame!!!

Sumlin seems pretty chill and down to earth. Think he would've sat there all game...

UAdevil wrote:

pc in NM wrote:Sean Miller has zero idea/motivation how to use a player of Ayton's size and skill...

... no other 7-footer should ever come here

I'm in denial no longer. Miller: Great, GREAT recruiter/ambassador, mediocre at best coach.

I'm not sure about the Great Recruiter tag. Once we get through sanctions we'll find out if Miller really is a great recruiter or if our past recruiting success was due to Book & Bags of Money.

Miller is an excellent defensive coach with mid-major offensive coaching skills.

2:18 - Ayton STILL has only two shots!!!

BearDown89 wrote:Sumlin seems pretty chill and down to earth. Think he would've sat there all game...

Have to admit. . . I have a morbid curiosity as to what the Rich Rod Basketball Universe looks like. Ah well.

Lead.

pc in NM wrote:What would you expect to see if Ayton played for Self?

Crying Roy?

Coach K?

Izzo?

It's a Crying shame!!!

Biggest problem is he's playing Ayton on the high block because Ristic is occupying what space Ayton should have. With a shooter like Lauri that works fine enough.

hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

PieceOfMeat wrote:hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

Trier didn't dribble out the clock

30 all at the half.

Tie game at half 30-30. One big difference between this game and the 1st game at Cu (where they led 45-29) is that PJC has not been grossly abused by the Buffs PG.

PieceOfMeat wrote:hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

Still in shock

The only way to force them to stop putting at least 3 guys around Ayton is if we start making outside shots.

Overall happy with the defense. Some random brain farts but overall doing some nice things. The long rebound/fast break points is what is killing us. Missed way too many open 3s.

PieceOfMeat wrote:hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

Woo Hoo!!! We're tied with a mediocre, no-name team from a below-average conference at the half!!!!

Bear Down Arizona!!!

etank34 wrote:The only way to force them to stop putting at least 3 guys around Ayton is if we start making outside shots.

Thats one way to loosen up a zone.........the other way is to break down the zone with penetration and force the bigs to stop the
penetrator. Unfortunately, we rarely do that. Our game plan against the zone appears to be: Pass the ball around the perimeter until the shot clock drops to 5 seconds and then:

1) Jack up an NBA 3
2) Jack up a contested college 3
3) Let the shot clock expire

LOL!!! Miller would play Shaq at the high post!!!

pc in NM wrote:

PieceOfMeat wrote:hey we get a shot and make it at the end of the half?!

Woo Hoo!!! We're tied with a mediocre, no-name team from a below-average conference at the half!!!!

Bear Down Arizona!!!

you mistake my amazement at making a shot to end the half with happiness at the score.

good gawd I cannot stand Casey Jacobsen and his donkey little buddy. FS1 blows.

These refs suck too. Trier should have gotten an and one on his drive.

Ayton touches the ball, but they call it before he can dunk it.

McKale sucks tonight. Lame ass crowd. Tad talks shit about your team and you show up late and cheer a little bit here and there.

We are trying to win a conference championship and work our way back to a top seed in the NCAA gawd dammit... our players need to show up! play with fire! play for your damn coach.

One positive- defense much better than first game.

OSUCat wrote:Overall happy with the defense. Some random brain farts but overall doing some nice things. The long rebound/fast break points is what is killing us. Missed way too many open 3s.

I thought so too - I only started following around the last 10 minutes of the half but I was impressed (by our relative standards) at the rotations and closeouts. Granted it is only against the Buffs, but still something to be positive about.

Our best shot was in '14 because we had a NBA PG and played team defense. The talent was secondary to those two things.

pc in NM wrote:What would you expect to see if Ayton played for Self?

Crying Roy?

Coach K?

Izzo?

It's a Crying shame!!!

you know he is averaging 20 and 11 right?

Way more than Embiid (Self), Zach Randolph (Izzo), Jaren Jackson (Izzo), Jahlil Okafor (K), Harry Giles (K) etc, etc. Pretty much any freshman big any of those coaches have ever coached besides Bagley. And you can throw Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony-Towns in there for Cal and still none of them compare.

LOL imagine if we were introducing Ken N tonight.

SunnyAZ wrote:

pc in NM wrote:What would you expect to see if Ayton played for Self?

Crying Roy?

Coach K?

Izzo?

It's a Crying shame!!!

you know he is averaging 20 and 11 right?

Way more than Embiid (Self), Zach Randolph (Izzo), Jaren Jackson (Izzo), Jahlil Okafor (K), Harry Giles (K) etc, etc. Pretty much any freshman big any of those coaches have ever coached besides Bagley.

He's one of the most awesome talents I've ever seen as a frosh. He does get his stuff.... eventually.

But, please,. Talk about how he was utilized in the first half of THIS GAME.

Is that what you want to see with this talent???

DS3!!!

^ I was at the Oregon game when Coach N was supposedly offered, thought he might be announced that game...woulda been rough reception, made that comment at the game if we woulda announced him right then, might be a near riot. That game was tense.

Now this is more like it!

Intensity!

Tad needs time!

Smith is playing better offensively than Rawle right now

another way to breakdown a zone is pressure on the other end, leading to more transition buckets before the zone is set up

source: GOOGLE

Anyone 6'6''+ can back down Ristic

well that T took a while for boil to get

OMG that Hell Yes sign.

T him up!

Second half comeback in effect. I guess we have to be reminded of our mortality every first half.

"Tad Boyle is one of the classiest coaches in the conference"

Says who? This announcer needs to stop fellating this bum.

qwertyus wrote:"Tad Boyle is one of the classiest coaches in the conference"

Says who? This announcer needs to stop fellating this bum.

TAD is no more than a BOIL on AZ's buttocks

ira called bank on that ft

SunnyAZ wrote:ira called bank on that ft

I'd only believe that if he had banked in the 2nd one too lol

loving the made FT's today

ristic killin em

Casey "I was huge in Europe" Jacobsen is the worst thing about this game so far.