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Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:46 pm
by Alieberman
Zeke has not even attempted a shot tonight. Got to get him the ball.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:46 pm
by Postmaster
It was cold today

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:47 pm
by SunnyAZ
I think josh would play like 36 MPG if we only played competitive games

also the jackrabbits are daring him to shoot the 3pter

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:47 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Our work on the glass in the 2h will like night and day.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:48 pm
by RondaeShimmy
#35 on SDSU is too big for any of the wings and too mobile for anybody the bigs on this team.

I feel like Arizona will struggle against player's like that, the Dillon Brooks types.

Unfortunately we don't have anyone taller than 6'5 who can play in the wing defensively.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:50 pm
by 84Cat
More pts in the paint please

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:51 pm
by Frybry02
RondaeShimmy wrote:#35 on SDSU is too big for any of the wings and too mobile for anybody the bigs on this team.

I feel like Arizona will struggle against player's like that, the Dillon Brooks types.

Unfortunately we don't have anyone taller than 6'5 who can play in the wing defensively.
Josh green needs to be the guy that handles that duty

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:52 pm
by TucsonClip
Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:52 pm
by AZCatGirl
Well that was a boring half.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:53 pm
by YoDeFoe
Depth and big men who can take their time to get efficient post buckets - it's going to save us from time to time.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:53 pm
by Merkin

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:54 pm
by YoDeFoe
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:55 pm
by Spaceman Spiff
Outrebounded by 5 with 12 turnovers. We're both lethargic and sloppy.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:55 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Your basketball knowledge dwarfs mine and most of us—so I’m sure you’re right. But in the end they scored 32 points. And shot better than they will moving forward. It’s not about our defense. It’s what we are doing to ourselves (and they are doing to us) on offense.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 pm
by TatetheGreat
Well, we could play zone and put in Koloko but that won't happen

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 pm
by PieceOfMeat
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Sigh, I'd like to argue but you're right.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 pm
by RondaeShimmy
Frybry02 wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:#35 on SDSU is too big for any of the wings and too mobile for anybody the bigs on this team.

I feel like Arizona will struggle against player's like that, the Dillon Brooks types.

Unfortunately we don't have anyone taller than 6'5 who can play in the wing defensively.
Josh green needs to be the guy that handles that duty
They're using this #35 guy who is like 6'7 in the post so Arizona can't do that.

Ira Lee should be the one, guy is killing Nnaji and Jeter attacking. He's too fast for them.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:56 pm
by FreeSpiritCat
YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot
Yep, South Dakota State's coach is really good. I'm surprised he hasn't found a better job.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:57 pm
by UAEebs86
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Outrebounded by 5 with 12 turnovers. We're both lethargic and sloppy.

It’s a bold strategy Cotton.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:58 pm
by PieceOfMeat
RondaeShimmy wrote:
Frybry02 wrote:
RondaeShimmy wrote:#35 on SDSU is too big for any of the wings and too mobile for anybody the bigs on this team.

I feel like Arizona will struggle against player's like that, the Dillon Brooks types.

Unfortunately we don't have anyone taller than 6'5 who can play in the wing defensively.
Josh green needs to be the guy that handles that duty
They're using this #35 guy who is like 6'7 in the post so Arizona can't do that.

Ira Lee should be the one, guy is killing Nnaji and Jeter attacking. He's too fast for them.
Except IRA would foul out in 5min. Refs love calling him on shit they let other people play through

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:58 pm
by Longhorned
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
“We were down 2 at the half but it might as well have been 40.”

Now we’re down 3. Don’t tell PJC!

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:59 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
Catintheheat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot
Yep, South Dakota State's coach is really good. I'm surprised he hasn't found a better job.
It’s his first year there. Or that’s what I thought I heard.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:59 pm
by Merkin
YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot
Noir or grigio?

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:59 pm
by FreeSpiritCat
ByJoveByJingle wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot
Yep, South Dakota State's coach is really good. I'm surprised he hasn't found a better job.
It’s his first year there. Or that’s what I thought I heard.
That makes sense. If he keeps coaching like this he won't be there for long.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:02 pm
by dovecanyoncat
We have 3 assists and 12 TOs. Got no rhythm yet.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:03 pm
by TucsonClip
ByJoveByJingle wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Your basketball knowledge dwarfs mine and most of us—so I’m sure you’re right. But in the end they scored 32 points. And shot better than they will moving forward. It’s not about our defense. It’s what we are doing to ourselves (and they are doing to us) on offense.
Its a bit of both, because things could be much worse. While we have 12 TOs, they have 13 of their own. Not worried, because I think well break through on offense (in the paint, drives, post ups, offensive rebounds) and the D will come around. Here is my full take:

Pretty obvious they watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble. They are also competing and active on defense. Controlling the paint with numbers and bodies.

Meanwhile, defense on the ball has just been sloppy. Some unnecessary switches, splits on hedges, beat off the dribble, stupid fouls, giving up offensive rebounds, not hustling to get back into defensive position after the initial action.

This half looks like a bunch of young/new guys in the program. Lets see what adjustments Miller makes at the half. Thinking we see less trapping those side ball screens, playing a bit more straight Miller packline to keep guys in position.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:03 pm
by 84Cat
ByJoveByJingle wrote:
Catintheheat wrote:
YoDeFoe wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Clip you're so helpful because I'm just yelling "we're getting out scheme'd!" at my wife while she nods at her glass of pinot
Yep, South Dakota State's coach is really good. I'm surprised he hasn't found a better job.
It’s his first year there. Or that’s what I thought I heard.
Yep, first year as HC. He was the assistant coach for the 3 years prior

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:06 pm
by azcat49
Beat in every aspect of this game so far

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:08 pm
by Merkin
Postmaster wrote:
Merkin wrote:I hate that fucking van camping commercial.

I liked the one last year when the guy bought a van online.
Is it the same people?
I don't think so. This guy is such a wimp and really unlikable.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:09 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
TucsonClip wrote:
ByJoveByJingle wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
Your basketball knowledge dwarfs mine and most of us—so I’m sure you’re right. But in the end they scored 32 points. And shot better than they will moving forward. It’s not about our defense. It’s what we are doing to ourselves (and they are doing to us) on offense.
Its a bit of both, because things could be much worse. While we have 12 TOs, they have 13 of their own. Not worried, because I think well break through on offense (in the paint, drives, post ups, offensive rebounds) and the D will come around. Here is my full take:

Pretty obvious they watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble. They are also competing and active on defense. Controlling the paint with numbers and bodies.

Meanwhile, defense on the ball has just been sloppy. Some unnecessary switches, splits on hedges, beat off the dribble, stupid fouls, giving up offensive rebounds, not hustling to get back into defensive position after the initial action.

This half looks like a bunch of young/new guys in the program. Lets see what adjustments Miller makes at the half. Thinking we see less trapping those side ball screens, playing a bit more straight Miller packline to keep guys in position.
Yeah those offensive rebounds are killing us, too. Thanks as always for your knowledgeable insight!

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:10 pm
by PieceOfMeat
Double foul for nnaji 3rd. Fuck outta here refs

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:11 pm
by SunnyAZ
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
every competent team has done the same thing to us for the last 5 years

slip pnr, empty side pnPop to a wide open 3 (they have one this game from that), split the pnr, quick short roll to hit the backside corner 3pt, stop that back screen for the big from the corner pass, etc

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:13 pm
by AZCatGirl
Zeke mad.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:13 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
SunnyAZ wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:Pretty simple guys. They watched the Buffalo tape. Same spread ball screen actions, slipping PNRs, active on the offensive glass, beating guys off the dribble.
every competent team has done the same thing to us for the last 5 years

slip pnr, empty side pnPop to a wide open 3 (they have one this game from that), split the pnr, quick short roll to hit the backside corner 3pt, stop that back screen for the big from the corner pass, etc
Did we lose to every competent team in the last 5 years? That would suck if we did.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:13 pm
by FreeSpiritCat
You can see the Cats are playing with a little more energy. It's amazing how much energy and effort are a difference maker.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:15 pm
by TucsonClip
Get to the fucking rim. No more settling.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:15 pm
by FreeSpiritCat
DS doesn't need to be the playmaker.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:16 pm
by Alieberman
Dylan Smith steps out of bound.... some things never change!

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:17 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Dylan Smith and Carmelo Anthony: where ball movement goes to die.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:17 pm
by RondaeShimmy
I need Smith to never put the ball on the floor

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:22 pm
by billk78
Smith and Doutrive just playing completely out of control. Driving into 3 guys or chucking up bad shots. Wheres Hazzard?

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:24 pm
by AZCatGirl
This is more like it.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Fuck Yeah! Baker!!!

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by UAdevil
Nice little run.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by Alieberman
There is nothing Dylan Smith does better than J Baker.

It's so frustrating.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by Postmaster
More dunks, that’s my coaching suggestion

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by PieceOfMeat
AZCatGirl wrote:This is more like it.
Liking this lineup

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by FreeSpiritCat
AZCatGirl wrote:This is more like it.
The Cats are going to learn a lot from this game. Mainly who to put on the floor against a team like this.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
billk78 wrote:Smith and Doutrive just playing completely out of control. Driving into 3 guys or chucking up bad shots. Wheres Hazzard?
Doutrive has been disappointing. Not that I don’t see any hope or way forward, but based on reports I expected better from him. This just feels like a continuation of last year—flashes of brilliance and a lot of frustration.

Re: (M) Game 5, Arizona vs South Dakota State (2019-2020)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:26 pm
by U.P. Zona Fan
Good thing I switched chairs, gonna burn that other one.