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Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:43 pm
by catgrad97
This was Arizona's worst game of the year tonight. Pre-Christmas letdown, just like in the Lute years.

Anything worse is either because of injury or is an insult to the scholarship these guys are given. They'll bounce back, and quickly.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:43 pm
by azpatnca
Merkin wrote:Interesting stat, never would have guessed it.
he's our best player, and he had a terrible road trip. I think we should start him.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:43 pm
by billk78
pretty clear goaltend

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:44 pm
by billk78
catgrad97 wrote:This was Arizona's worst game of the year tonight. Pre-Christmas letdown, just like in the Lute years.

Anything worse is either because of injury or is an insult to the scholarship these guys are given. They'll bounce back, and quickly.
someone reasonable.....what are you doing here?

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:45 pm
by az91
Miller just said this was the worst defensive performance he has ever been associated with. It was truly horrible.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:45 pm
by PieceOfMeat
Merkin wrote:UA scores 5 points in the last 5:32.

59% FTs, outrebounded by 13.

No adjustment at all by Miller.
And are you really surprised?

That's an honest question. I ask because, well, I'm not.

This is Miller ball.

Some people want to tout our adjusted O stat or this stat or that stat but bottom line is this is who we are with Miller.

The tighter his sphincter gets the tighter the rotation gets. We played better on O last year, AFTER BAsh's injury (well, after a while after he was injured), because it forced Miller's hand in playing a little different on the O side. But this year, here we are, back to the same old shit.

No reliable, clutch shooter.

No answer for the simplest of plays that the other team runs us into the ground with.

No good from the free throw line.

I said it before the season began, and I'll say it again now: This team has an elite 8 ceiling.

We'll probably get there again, and lose there again, lather, rinse, and repeat.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:46 pm
by catgrad97
billk78 wrote:
catgrad97 wrote:This was Arizona's worst game of the year tonight. Pre-Christmas letdown, just like in the Lute years.

Anything worse is either because of injury or is an insult to the scholarship these guys are given. They'll bounce back, and quickly.
someone reasonable.....what are you doing here?
I never left. But people don't respond to me a lot these days. Too much holiday drama they have to resolve, I guess.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:46 pm
by az91
azpatnca wrote:
Merkin wrote:Interesting stat, never would have guessed it.
he's our best player, and he had a terrible road trip. I think we should start him.
I have been hoping this for the entire season. Sadly, I don't think it will happen.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:46 pm
by azpatnca
billk78 wrote:pretty clear goaltend
I wish we had played well enough that I could be pissed off at the blatantly biased officiating. Damn, that was some kangaroo shit.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:48 pm
by Lando05
azpatnca wrote:
az91 wrote: Maybe, but the conference is going to be tough. Utah and UW have the talent and coaching to win the conference.

UW plays offense. that's scary to me.
Exactly good offense will always beat good defense, that's just how the game is. A good offense team like UW or a team with a talented guard that can take over game like Cal, Stanford, or Utah scare me too... U of A is not getting a cake walk through the Pac 12 this year guys, we have some major holes that were just exploited.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:48 pm
by AZCatGirl
az91 wrote:Miller just said this was the worst defensive performance he has ever been associated with. It was truly horrible.
He also said he was out coached. Very glad he admitted that.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:50 pm
by Lando05
AZCatGirl wrote:
az91 wrote:Miller just said this was the worst defensive performance he has ever been associated with. It was truly horrible.
He also said he was out coached. Very glad he admitted that.
Me too

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:50 pm
by az91
Lando05 wrote:
azpatnca wrote:
az91 wrote: Maybe, but the conference is going to be tough. Utah and UW have the talent and coaching to win the conference.

UW plays offense. that's scary to me.
Exactly good offense will always beat good defense, that's just how the game is. A good offense team like UW or a team with a talented guard that can take over game like Cal, Stanford, or Utah scare me too... U of A is not getting a cake walk through the Pac 12 this year guys, we have some major holes that were just exploited.
This is a spot on analysis.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:51 pm
by az91
AZCatGirl wrote:
az91 wrote:Miller just said this was the worst defensive performance he has ever been associated with. It was truly horrible.
He also said he was out coached. Very glad he admitted that.
And that is pathetic, because I think Dave Rice has done less with more talent than anyone since he became head coach of UNLV

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:52 pm
by Lando05
PieceOfMeat wrote:
Merkin wrote:UA scores 5 points in the last 5:32.

59% FTs, outrebounded by 13.

No adjustment at all by Miller.
And are you really surprised?

That's an honest question. I ask because, well, I'm not.

This is Miller ball.

Some people want to tout our adjusted O stat or this stat or that stat but bottom line is this is who we are with Miller.

The tighter his sphincter gets the tighter the rotation gets. We played better on O last year, AFTER BAsh's injury (well, after a while after he was injured), because it forced Miller's hand in playing a little different on the O side. But this year, here we are, back to the same old shit.

No reliable, clutch shooter.

No answer for the simplest of plays that the other team runs us into the ground with.

No good from the free throw line.

I said it before the season began, and I'll say it again now: This team has an elite 8 ceiling.

We'll probably get there again, and lose there again, lather, rinse, and repeat.
POM you hit the nail of the head, couldn't agree anymore. I hope I'm wrong

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:53 pm
by catgrad97
But who doesn't, or couldn't, get up for Arizona?

Not sure how much credit Rice deserves for this win. UNLV wanted to be Queen For a Day and got it.

It's up to them what they make of it. Recent history has said, meh.

Thinking this UNLV team might be different. Hoping, anyway. Otherwise, they haven't earned my respect.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:55 pm
by UofACat23
Merkin wrote:
The way the ball bounced off the rim did seem unnatural, it looked like it was going to softly bounce in and then careened off the to right, if UNLV hit the rim that would explain it.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:00 pm
by az91
PieceOfMeat wrote:
Merkin wrote:UA scores 5 points in the last 5:32.

59% FTs, outrebounded by 13.

No adjustment at all by Miller.
And are you really surprised?

That's an honest question. I ask because, well, I'm not.

This is Miller ball.

Some people want to tout our adjusted O stat or this stat or that stat but bottom line is this is who we are with Miller.

The tighter his sphincter gets the tighter the rotation gets. We played better on O last year, AFTER BAsh's injury (well, after a while after he was injured), because it forced Miller's hand in playing a little different on the O side. But this year, here we are, back to the same old shit.

No reliable, clutch shooter.

No answer for the simplest of plays that the other team runs us into the ground with.

No good from the free throw line.

I said it before the season began, and I'll say it again now: This team has an elite 8 ceiling.

We'll probably get there again, and lose there again, lather, rinse, and repeat.
Elite 8 ceiling? That might be optimistic. The loss of Nick Johnson and Aaron Gordon have proven to be much harder to overcome than anyone thought.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:01 pm
by Lando05
Does Miller's offense system put his players in positions to best maximize their offense skills? I'm asking an honest question here.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:07 pm
by Beachcat97
Lando05 wrote:Does Miller's offense system put his players in positions to best maximize their offense skills? I'm asking an honest question here.
You'd have to ask his players.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:09 pm
by AZCatGirl
I agree Miller's offense system has issues, but our defense was horrible as well. Hell, EVERYTHING we did was awful. I don't think it's fair to just blame the offense.

I disagree about the Elite 8 ceiling too. I think Miller's system can get to a Final 4.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:16 pm
by PieceOfMeat
AZCatGirl wrote:I agree Miller's offense system has issues, but our defense was horrible as well. Hell, EVERYTHING we did was awful. I don't think it's fair to just blame the offense.

I disagree about the Elite 8 ceiling too. I think Miller's system can get to a Final 4.
I think that might (and I stress might) be possible if we had an AG or a DWill on this team.

but we don't.

Hell, even with them, we couldn't make it.

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:20 pm
by AZCatGirl
PieceOfMeat wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:I agree Miller's offense system has issues, but our defense was horrible as well. Hell, EVERYTHING we did was awful. I don't think it's fair to just blame the offense.

I disagree about the Elite 8 ceiling too. I think Miller's system can get to a Final 4.
I think that might (and I stress might) be possible if we had an AG or a DWill on this team.

but we don't.

Hell, even with them, we couldn't make it.
If we only get to the Elite 8 I again might come around to your line of thought, but Stanley could be the difference maker if he plays smart. Of course, that's assuming the rest of the team plays smart as well...

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:30 pm
by Bosy Billups
How many of these posts would exist if we won by 2?

"Good offense beats good defense, that's just how the game is"?

Excuse me while I check to see if we're talking about basketball here.

BRB

Re: Game 13, at UNLV

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:51 pm
by NorCalCat
An Homage to the Lute era where the Cats would lay a huge egg in the final road game before X-Mas every single damned year.