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(M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:58 pm
by PieceOfMeat
Men's Game 13: ST. JOHN’S (10-2) vs #16/17 ARIZONA (10-2)
Date: Saturday, Dec. 21
Time: 8:00 p.m. (MST)
Location: San Francisco, Calif. - Chase Center (18,064)
TV: ESPN2 (Dave Pasch & Bill Walson)
Radio: Arizona IMG Sports Network (Jeffries & Hansen), 1290 AM 107.5 FM

Game Notes: https://arizonawildcats.com/documents/2 ... tJohns.pdf" target="_blank
Game Article: https://arizonawildcats.com/news/2019/1 ... ohn-s.aspx" target="_blank

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:47 pm
by Longhorned
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Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:14 pm
by dovecanyoncat
"It's Dave, right? OK, why do you hate my grandchilden?"

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:36 pm
by Beachcat97
I'll be in attendance, nice and close near our bench. Ready for a bounce-back game and a final win before Pac play starts.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:44 pm
by Jefe

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:43 am
by U.P. Zona Fan
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The ivy league on ivy league rage paying dividends.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:49 am
by Longhorned
I thought I read Gettings cleared the protocol and was back for St. John's. Now I can't find it. Did I dream that?

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:02 am
by UAEebs86
Longhorned wrote:I thought I read Gettings cleared the protocol and was back for St. John's. Now I can't find it. Did I dream that?

I think he cleared protocol but maybe the vision in his eye hasn't cleared up?

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:17 am
by azcat49
Cats -11 and it seems we haven’t covered a game in a long while. Would be a nice way to start the holiday weekend

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:24 am
by 84Cat
It will be interesting to see how we match up to the 40 minutes of hell. Should be a good test for us

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:21 pm
by Merkin
84Cat wrote:It will be interesting to see how we match up to the 40 minutes of hell. Should be a good test for us
Unfortunately Mannion hasn't responded well, so a really big game for him.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:01 pm
by Captain Obvious
Merkin wrote:
84Cat wrote:It will be interesting to see how we match up to the 40 minutes of hell. Should be a good test for us
Unfortunately Mannion hasn't responded well, so a really big game for him.

If his shots aren't falling he needs to find other ways to help the team. His assist to turnover ratio is fantastic. He's still adjusting to the increased speed and physicality of the college game. And Miller's expectation for him to play good defense on a consistent basis. The best is definitely yet to come with Mannion. Looking forward to it.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:07 pm
by azgreg

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:09 pm
by dovecanyoncat
I hope Nico can find a way to coast enough to heal up but stay on the floor and run the team. Back spasms are a freakout, they're not just a pain you can play through. They're kind of mysterious and often don't respond to treatment. Hope it doesn't get in his head.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:59 pm
by CatFanOneMil
Went and checked out Johnny board (St Johns fans)...the majority of them are saying Cats win...I dunno...I like our teams slowly evolving consistency...I think people like Baker are under-rated in terms of stabilizing influence...hopefully Dylan Smith has a good night defensively and Nico's shots are falling...if those two things happen and we rebound like we did against Gonzaga we win by 20...

Turnovers early are expected...St. Johns runs a pretty mean press that is quite flexible and versatile...we'll see Nico tested tonite...

If we keep turnovers to 10 or below we win easy. If they climb up into the teens we might be in trouble.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:18 pm
by dmjcat
Merkin wrote:
84Cat wrote:It will be interesting to see how we match up to the 40 minutes of hell. Should be a good test for us
Unfortunately Mannion hasn't responded well, so a really big game for him.
I think that one of the biggest issues facing Nico is just adjusting to the much more athletic (and longer) competition compared to what he faced in HS. Nico had serious issues in the McDonalds game (Cole Anthony) and the last two teams we faced (Baylor & Gonzaga) had long athletic guards who focused on stopping him. Nico definitely got frustrated with Woolridges defense in the Gonzaga game. Unfortunately, Nico is going to face a whole host of long athletic guards in the PAC12. He needs to slow down and use screens, or just pass the ball if he can't beat his man off the dribble.

Personally, I'm also expecting some one-off defenses (sooner or later) aimed at Nico. I won't be shocked if we see a Triangle & Two from someone down the road. The triangle to stop Zeke, and the double on Nico on the perimeter.....the idea being to make Dylan Smith beat you (a somewhat scary thought for me).

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:03 pm
by Merkin
Some of those Stanford volleyball players are better looking than those on their cheer squad.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:06 pm
by CatsbyAZ
Walton’s blinking Christmas sweater!

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:09 pm
by CatsbyAZ
Walton to Pasch: “If you would stop saying of course! How do I know what you’re thinking! How do you know what I’m thinking!”

Minutes later: “Have you been to the shores of deliberation?!?!”

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:10 pm
by oggoazcats
Chase misses point blank at the rim.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:11 pm
by AZCatGirl
He's not wrong Bill. We were hot garbage last year.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:13 pm
by 84Cat
Need to settle down and hit our shots

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:16 pm
by AZCatGirl
I know we had finals this week, but it doesn't look like we practiced at all.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:20 pm
by AZCatGirl
Yeah Bill, I'm sure Kerr will have a real tough time getting into the game. :lol:

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:20 pm
by 84Cat
AZCatGirl wrote:I know we had finals this week, but it doesn't look like we practiced at all.
Sean said they had a great week of practice but it's not showing so far tonight

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:22 pm
by WildcatStunner
Jeter is having himself a special game!

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 pm
by AZCatGirl
84Cat wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:I know we had finals this week, but it doesn't look like we practiced at all.
Sean said they had a great week of practice but it's not showing so far tonight
Could've fooled me.

How has Sean not called timeout yet?

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 pm
by WildcatStunner
St. Johns taking it right to us.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 pm
by 84Cat
Holy shit we look like shit!!!

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:23 pm
by Merkin
AZCatGirl wrote:Yeah Bill, I'm sure Kerr will have a real tough time getting into the game. :lol:

If Kerr could suit up he would be the best player on the current Arizona team.


Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:24 pm
by azcat49
Right now we are looking like a team that will really struggle against any quality team we play in conference on the road. Very disappointed with our start and our performance in our marquee games outside of Illinois

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by zonagrad
Arizona 6 turnovers. St. John’s 0

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by TatetheGreat
ASsU beat these guys by 13. Heron isn’t even playing either.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by dmjcat
Once again we do NOT look like a Top 25 team.

This is our last chance to get a decent non-conference win. Lose this and we project to be a 6-8 seed with a 2nd round exit.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:25 pm
by billk78
Arizona looks slow and John's are flying. Jeter really hurting us. Green looks overmatched. That press when Mannion was out was killer. Need to bounce back,

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:26 pm
by Longhorned
Still waiting for some sign that Nico is ready. Arizona doesn't have a functional point guard.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:27 pm
by dmjcat
Longhorned wrote:Still waiting for some sign that Nico is ready. Arizona doesn't have a functional point guard.
He didn't look ready on that last shot he took.....contested with a hand in his face. He should have passed

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:28 pm
by AZCatGirl
Merkin wrote:
AZCatGirl wrote:Yeah Bill, I'm sure Kerr will have a real tough time getting into the game. :lol:

If Kerr could suit up he would be the best player on the current Arizona team.
It would also be far more entertaining than the shit show we're being forced to watch.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:29 pm
by Merkin
8 TO to none.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:30 pm
by 84Cat
Could we look any worse?

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:30 pm
by oggoazcats
Awful call

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:31 pm
by PieceOfMeat
I've no doubt our scoring will improve as the game goes on....but....this is typical sean miller basketball to start this game.

we're on pace for 1 point per minute played, after the first 9 minutes of play.

anyone particularly surprised by this hasn't been watching sean miller basketball over the last decade

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:33 pm
by azcat49
ASSU beat these jokers by 13. Wonder if Sheer will tweet something

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:34 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Other teams scheme us. We don't scheme them. DWWD.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:34 pm
by 84Cat
WTF!

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:35 pm
by PieceOfMeat
dovecanyoncat wrote:Other teams scheme us. We don't scheme them. DWWD.
do what we do
always

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:37 pm
by Merkin

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:37 pm
by ByJoveByJingle
PieceOfMeat wrote:I've no doubt our scoring will improve as the game goes on....but....this is typical sean miller basketball to start this game.

we're on pace for 1 point per minute played, after the first 9 minutes of play.

anyone particularly surprised by this hasn't been watching sean miller basketball over the last decade
If we just got rid of Miller maybe we’d improve from the 5th highest scoring team in the nation to the 4th? Let’s do it!

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:37 pm
by zonagrad
dovecanyoncat wrote:Other teams scheme us. We don't scheme them. DWWD.
And that is not accurate.

Re: (M) Game 13, Arizona vs St. John's (2019-2020)

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:39 pm
by dovecanyoncat
Perhaps the scheme comes during the halftime waterboarding CSM has to undertake almost every game against good opponents.