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Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
by mofo
Irish27 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:37 pmEven if he accepted the pitching position at A&M, he could always back out.
I'm assuming he's only backing out for the head gig at Arizona.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
by Irish27
Chicat wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:52 pm Dave Heeke cares about sports? Huh…
Like Scheer said, it's the one sport he really likes. His son plays college baseball.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
by 84Cat
Anyone know how much we paid JJ & Yeskie this year?

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:03 pm
by WildcatStunner
Any Robbins heart patients that played baseball?

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:03 pm
by Irish27
mofo wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
Irish27 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:37 pmEven if he accepted the pitching position at A&M, he could always back out.
I'm assuming he's only backing out for the head gig at Arizona.
Or Jay Johnson offers him the pitching coach position.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:05 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:11 pm
by mofo
Irish27 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:03 pm
mofo wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:02 pm
Irish27 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:37 pmEven if he accepted the pitching position at A&M, he could always back out.
I'm assuming he's only backing out for the head gig at Arizona.
Or Jay Johnson offers him the pitching coach position.
Maybe, but didn't he leave OSU because he wanted the HC gig there? Yeah he hired on as another asst here and it wasn't like JJ was retiring any time soon, but if I recall previous posts I thought he really wants to be a HC. He's the reason Susac is here and Susac's pitcher brother is coming in next year too, so sounds like he can recruit a little as well (even non-pitchers, of course that might have been a package deal and opportunity for Daniel to catch his bro). I don't know enough about his coaching or managing chops other than pitching but seems like he'd be interested in the HC gig of a team fresh off a CWS run but who knows. I have no idea if he'll be the best candidate, I just think it would be a great position to walk into if there's mutual interest.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:12 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:16 pm
by ekat
I can’t decide if I’m numb, or slowly dying. In my lifetime of fandom, dating back to the ‘70’s, I can’t remember this kind of coaching upheaval. And I almost don’t care who the idiots hire to replace him, after seeing who they hired for football, basketball, and soccer. I’m giving softball a pass because Candrea set that up but still, she’s 0-0.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:16 pm
by ekat
I really, really like Andrew Checketts. So, I’m going to assume he won’t be the hire.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:18 pm
by azcat49
F Heeke, dry and in the sphincter. He is a POS who has made the last few years miserable.

When I see him and I will. I am going to say simply, F U you POS. Yes I am upset about losing JJ to LSU.

Both of them are BS. JJ less as I would go for 1.5m a year to but don’t give us the BS about our fans being the best in baseball as your way of saying goodbye.F Heeke for saying he would talk to him in the off-season and his goal was to put a package together that would keep him long term at the U of A. F F F F F

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:18 pm
by UAEebs86
Checketts has been a head coach before. He's out.

-Ricky Bobby

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:19 pm
by mofo
I'm with you ekat. When JJ was hired I thought "wooo, this could be good". Then CWS in year 1 and I was really looking forward to a long tenure in Tucson and getting UA baseball back to the good 'ol days. Now we start over and with a free transfer portal for our whole team.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:24 pm
by ekat
Seriously half of me wants to cry and the other half says why bother? Investing my time, energy, (money when I could and didn’t hate the administration) etc. isn’t working out so well.

5 new head coaches in major sports. But we wrapped up an extension for men’s golf today. There’s not a lot here making me feel proud of my school.

Oh, and one last thanks to Larry Scott for screwing the conference so hard that we can’t compete to retain a coach like Jay Johnson.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:29 pm
by Irish27
Maybe GB could make this hire for Heeke.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:29 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:32 pm
by Irish27
azgreg wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:29 pm
That would be mine but Checketts as the #1 candidate.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:35 pm
by Irish27
Don't know if I would want Hale to be the next coach now.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:49 pm
by phxcat23
Cant take all these coaching changes. Thought Jay would stick around a little longer, but money is money. Hope he finds success quick, because they will be ruthless down there if he can’t win right away.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:05 pm
by Irish27

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:08 pm
by azgreg

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:17 pm
by Merkin
Irish27 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:35 pm Don't know if I would want Hale to be the next coach now.
Losing HC at the MLB level. No college coaching experience.

So the perfect hire for Robbins/Heeke.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:23 pm
by scumdevils86
Pretty amazing we are getting new softball, baseball, basketball, and football coaches all at the same time. I wonder how often that has happened at a D1 program.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:27 pm
by azgreg
scumdevils86 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:23 pm Pretty amazing we are getting new softball, baseball, basketball, and football coaches all at the same time. I wonder how often that has happened at a D1 program.
Don't forget soccer and cross country.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:31 pm
by mofo
scumdevils86 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:23 pm Pretty amazing we are getting new softball, baseball, basketball, and football coaches all at the same time. I wonder how often that has happened at a D1 program.
Crazy times. We should be counting our lucky stars that we have such outstanding leadership at the helm to put us in even better positions to succeed through this craziness!

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:32 pm
by ekat
Irish27 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:05 pm This is not premium information. :)
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Not going to lie, after the first two, I kind of hate that list. Although, after Stanky said no to assu, it would be amusing if he came here. :)

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:33 pm
by ekat
azgreg wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:27 pm
scumdevils86 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:23 pm Pretty amazing we are getting new softball, baseball, basketball, and football coaches all at the same time. I wonder how often that has happened at a D1 program.
Don't forget soccer and cross country.
At least we’re retaining the swim/dive coaches named in the NOA though.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:35 pm
by Postmaster
Wouldn’t Drago, I mean Yeskie know of JJ’s plans? Seems like he would hold off A & M until Heeke could give him an offer.
Unless he wanted to leave regardless.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:46 pm
by Irish27
It's amazing to think if that pitch was called strike three. Maybe the Cats are still playing and Johnson never gets the interview.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:50 pm
by Postmaster
mofo wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:59 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:14 pm Are we about done with Jay Johnson? It feels like we're getting worse every year.
Well, I suppose this was pretty good foreshadowing at the beginning of the season but I'm pretty sure it was intended to be on our terms.
What does this mean?

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:07 pm
by phxcat23
I wouldn’t mind if Yeskie stays, but beside him Checketts I think would be good. West coast guy that’s had a lot of success. I doubt Waz comes back, but would be interesting and wouldn’t mind it since he’s had a long run here before. Not sure he would leave Oregon though…worked hard to get there

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:10 pm
by ekat
phxcat23 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:07 pm I wouldn’t mind if Yeskie stays, but beside him Checketts I think would be good. West coast guy that’s had a lot of success. I doubt Waz comes back, but would be interesting and wouldn’t mind it since he’s had a long run here before. Not sure he would leave Oregon though…worked hard to get there
I really like Checketts, so I’m just going to go on assuming he’s not the hire.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:22 pm
by Chicat
Terry Francona please save us.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:32 pm
by phxcat23
I don’t want to downplay what Chip Hale had done, but the casual fan will hear his name and want him since he’s Alumni. Bobby Robbins would slobber all over him, but he’s not the hire. Tito would be badass but no way he’s getting into college coaching at this stage. Arizona is a top west coast job. We should be able to select from a good pool of coaches, but I have no faith in the AD

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:42 pm
by azgreg
Yeskie is off the board I believe.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:46 pm
by 84Cat
azgreg wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:42 pm Yeskie is off the board I believe.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:49 pm
by Chicat
The mark of a really well-run athletic department is having to replace nearly every goddamn coach in the building over the course of a year.

Nice culture of excellence you’ve established Heeke you fuck.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:51 pm
by azgreg
Chicat wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:49 pm The mark of a really well-run athletic department is having to replace nearly every goddamn coach in the building over the course of a year.

Nice culture of excellence you’ve established Heeke you fuck.
They're leaving their mark on the program.......a skid mark

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:55 pm
by 84Cat
I can't imagine many p5 programs losing 2 coaches from a tournament team. How many guys are we going to lose now?

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:58 pm
by ekat
84Cat wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:55 pm I can't imagine many p5 programs losing 2 coaches from a tournament team. How many guys are we going to lose now?
22 players are draft-eligible. And the portal is wiiiiiiiiiiiide open. So if Robbins hires a former batboy with no experience, a crony that he knows from a surgery, or Chip Hale, all of them.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:12 pm
by UAEebs86

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:16 pm
by AZCatGirl
mofo wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:59 pm
AZCatGirl wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:14 pm Are we about done with Jay Johnson? It feels like we're getting worse every year.
Well, I suppose this was pretty good foreshadowing at the beginning of the season but I'm pretty sure it was intended to be on our terms.
Be careful what you wish for because it might come true.

Considering how well the team ended up doing in the regular season, plus all the coaching turmoil in general we've had to suffer through lately, I was all for throwing money at Jay and giving him more time.

Now we have to hope Heeke suddenly remembers how to do his job. Sigh.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:19 pm
by Irish27
I really hope we don't see a mass exodus. Next year looks so promising. Berry and Susac need to stay. Heeke needs to get a deal done with Checketts as soon as possible.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:15 pm
by TheCatInTheHat
OK...first, there's no crying in baseball. That said, I believe Wildcat baseball is about the environment of Hi Corbett Field, just like Wildcat Basketball is about the environment at McKale Center. Can a horrible coach screw it up? Of course. But, just as Lloyd will likely do roughly equal to the later years Miller, I'd assume Chexketts or somebody comparable will roughly hit the median at Hi Corbett over the last ten years. If anybody had visions of something grander I'm sorry, but it is what it is, and it's not so bad.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:23 pm
by Irish27

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:30 pm
by UALoco
If the coaches aren't loyal, the players aren't loyal, the administration isn't loyal, why should the fans be loyal? College sports has just turned into pro sports. Good thing sports gambling is gonna be legal soon. Only reason to watch and get the juice.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:33 am
by RichardCranium
Irish27 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:05 pm This is not premium information. :)
https://247sports.com/college/arizona/L ... 66965310_3
I understand the idea of this summary.

I do NOT approve of promoting a head coach from Grand Canyon.

I have lived through one of those disasters already, and I don't need to experience a second.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:02 am
by pc in NM
UALoco wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:30 pm If the coaches aren't loyal, the players aren't loyal, the administration isn't loyal, why should the fans be loyal? College sports has just turned into pro sports. Good thing sports gambling is gonna be legal soon. Only reason to watch and get the juice.
"Loyalty" is really not the question here. Seriously!!

Jay Johnson left Nevada for the Arizona job. Viewed from the standpoint of "loyalty", the handwriting was on the wall. That's probably not the best lens through which to evaluate such choices. The man has a career, and I believe he is making choices about his own advancement, as would any of us in our careers.

Read through many of the football and basketball threads here over the years, and tell me about the "loyalty" of many of the fans here to players that under-perform expectations (whether those expectations were realistic or not!).

It's a true rarity when an acknowledged excellent coach chooses a program based more on potential than past/recent accomplishment, and then takes that program to an entirely unheard of level. Lute Olson was a clear example of this - lucky for us!!!

Major college sports are major businesses, and some are even suggesting that football/basketball be somehow separated from the "academics". These sports have already been "professional" for a long time (for everyone but the athletes themselves). And, big money is both corrupting them, and creating internal contradictions that are undermining the very concept of "college sports"....

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:10 am
by Chicat
phxcat23 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:32 pmTito would be badass but no way he’s getting into college coaching at this stage.
For the record, I wasn’t saying he should take a huge cut in pay and prestige while doubling his workload to come coach Arizona Baseball. But it would be great if he weighed in publicly on what kind of coach he’d like to see takeover and lobbied behind the scenes for specific candidates.

That’s also a pipe dream though because the man has a pretty overwhelming job he’s doing right now and I doubt he’s got the time or energy to worry about us right now.

Re: 2021 Season

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:13 am
by Irish27
If any of us was offered a pay raise like Johnson was given, I would assume almost all of us would take it. I cannot be mad at JJ for taking the LSU job, it's one of the best in the nation. I just hope Heeke does not settle on an assistant coach. I also hope the hire is made within the next week. Can't afford to lose too many of the guys that are supposedly coming back.