Stanley Johnson

The Butcher · Post by **The Butcher** » Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:00 pm

84Cat wrote:I wonder if they are getting their info from a Socal shoe salesman?

Heh..no kidding. Would be the greatest 50 dollar bet I ever lost.

PennZona20 · Post by **PennZona20** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:27 am

It's not unheard of though:

Marcus Smart , Cauley-Stein, Frank the Tank (although he was more back of lotto projections last year), Blake Griffin (I think he wanted to play w his bro one more year) are all recent guys who did it.

Bosy Billups · Post by **Bosy Billups** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:33 am

To make it work, you'd have to take out at least a million dollar insurance policy in case you get a career ending injury.

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:44 am

Bosy Billups wrote:To make it work, you'd have to take out at least a million dollar insurance policy in case you get a career ending injury.

I think Greg Byrne tweeted out an article a few weeks back that no NCAA player has ever collected on one of those insurance policies.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:07 pm

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:09 pm

Jefe wrote:

Unpossible.

WildcatStunner · Post by **WildcatStunner** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:12 pm

I refuse to believe he is even close to staying unless I hear it from the Stanimal himself.

azthrillhouse · Post by **azthrillhouse** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:26 pm

Well if some HuffPost guy I'd never heard of before says it's true, it must be true. He's also saying Zeus is almost certainly gone.

I'll be glad when this is all over one way or another.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:46 pm

If UK's guys can come back, why can't ours?

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:57 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:If UK's guys can come back, why can't ours?

Yeah I am with you BC97. I know its not likely but why not!

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:05 pm

azthrillhouse wrote:Well if some HuffPost guy I'd never heard of before says it's true, it must be true. He's also saying Zeus is almost certainly gone.

I'll be glad when this is all over one way or another.

That seems counter to reality in so many ways but let's be real here:

(1) Dusan is going to pose a serious threat to Zeus' playing time next year.

(2) SJ is listed outside of the lottery in draft projections, and this is one of the deepest drafts ever for wings

(3) If SJ really wants to go out bigger here, and truly enjoy another year of college before turning pro - he is just like every other college kid. People seem to forget that. There are any number of reasons he might just want another year - the money is NOT going anywhere.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:10 pm

Why would a sports columnist from the Huffington Post know anything specific about this situation? The coaching staff have said that Stanley Johnson wants to return, but they are almost certain that, for obvious reason, Johnson will enter the NBA draft in spite of his desire to stay at Arizona. And now somebody in the know is telling him something other than this that makes the chances 60/40? It just doesn't ring true. Nor does what he's tweeting about Kaleb almost certainly going pro.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:11 pm

splitsecond wrote: That seems counter to reality in so many ways but let's be real here:

(1) Dusan is going to pose a serious threat to Zeus' playing time next year.

(2) SJ is listed outside of the lottery in draft projections, and this is one of the deepest drafts ever for wings

.

Not sure if serious

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:12 pm

Longhorned wrote:Why would a sports columnist from the Huffington Post know anything specific about this situation? The coaching staff have said that Stanley Johnson wants to return, but they are almost certain that, for obvious reason, Johnson will enter the NBA draft in spite of his desire to stay at Arizona. And now somebody in the know is telling him something other than this that makes the chances 60/40? It just doesn't ring true. Nor does what he's tweeting about Kaleb almost certainly going pro.

The beauty of a 60/40 split is the 100% chance that it has to be one of the two and you can't be wrong.

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:21 pm

splitsecond wrote: (2) SJ is listed outside of the lottery in draft projections, and this is one of the deepest drafts ever for wings

No he isn't, he is still #9 at Givony's DraftExpress.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:29 pm

5th best player: http://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2015/4 ... uel-mudiay

btfd16 · Post by **btfd16** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:47 pm

I know not many/if any will believe me but I was hanging out this week with Stan multiple times but he sounds like he really is torn.. but with a gun to my head I say he stays. I don't know what the family situation is but I feel like that's the deciding factor.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:07 pm

It's my understanding that his mom and pop make OK money so that's not an issue.

Gilbertcat · Post by **Gilbertcat** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:07 pm

I always thought a lottery pick was top 3...since those are lottery winners. Did not realize it just means non playoff teams.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:09 pm

Gilbertcat wrote:I always thought a lottery pick was top 3...since those are lottery winners. Did not realize it just means non playoff teams.

All non playoff teams have a shot at the #1 pick.

Pop McKale · Post by **Pop McKale** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:26 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
Longhorned wrote:Why would a sports columnist from the Huffington Post know anything specific about this situation? The coaching staff have said that Stanley Johnson wants to return, but they are almost certain that, for obvious reason, Johnson will enter the NBA draft in spite of his desire to stay at Arizona. And now somebody in the know is telling him something other than this that makes the chances 60/40? It just doesn't ring true. Nor does what he's tweeting about Kaleb almost certainly going pro.
The beauty of a 60/40 split is the 100% chance that it has to be one of the two and you can't be wrong.

Thanks for the chuckle.

elcorral · Post by **elcorral** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:50 am

Merkin wrote:
splitsecond wrote: (2) SJ is listed outside of the lottery in draft projections, and this is one of the deepest drafts ever for wings
No he isn't, he is still #9 at Givony's DraftExpress.

And would be leaving 2.2 million on the table...hard to see him returning.

Coop Cat · Post by **Coop Cat** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:54 am

From the Chad Ford draft chat today:

Why would Stanley Johnson NOT enter the draft? How many consensus Top 10 picks choose not to forego?

Chad Ford (2:51 PM)
He's not quite as high as I think the media had him rated. He's closer to 8 to 12 than the 5 to 7 range many have had him. I think he wants to go high and I think he feels another year could improve it. Especially when you consider that this incoming high school class isn't particularly strong. But it's tough to turn down a lottery pick and i do think Johnson is a lock to go in the mid to late lottery.

3goggles · Post by **3goggles** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:44 pm

Coop Cat wrote:From the Chad Ford draft chat today:

Why would Stanley Johnson NOT enter the draft? How many consensus Top 10 picks choose not to forego?

Chad Ford (2:51 PM)
He's not quite as high as I think the media had him rated. He's closer to 8 to 12 than the 5 to 7 range many have had him. I think he wants to go high and I think he feels another year could improve it. Especially when you consider that this incoming high school class isn't particularly strong. But it's tough to turn down a lottery pick and i do think Johnson is a lock to go in the mid to late lottery.

Wouldnt SJ by default be a top 5 pick next year. I would take SJ over anybody in this upcoming class.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:07 pm

azgreg wrote:

What's the subject of the "feeling is" sentence? Jason?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:43 pm

gumby wrote:
azgreg wrote:
What's the subject of the "feeling is" sentence? Jason?

"Our"

Kind of like the Royal We in twitterese.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:16 pm

We > Me

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:28 pm

Any news on Stan?

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:28 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Any news on Stan?

Yep!

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:29 pm

Stay tuned.

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:40 pm

Buckle up.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:49 pm

Get premium?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:49 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Any news on Stan?

Gone.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports. ... -transfer/

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:52 pm

So....what is it?

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:36 pm

HiCat wrote:So....what is it?

He has narrowed his choices down to 2.

1-Either he will leave
or
2- He will stay

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:47 pm

There is that rare third choice . . . . . Spontaneous Combustion.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:10 pm

Chicat wrote:There is that rare third choice . . . . . Spontaneous Combustion.

Choice #3 is actually dress in drag and enter the wnba draft, a la Juwanna Mann.

LBdCactus · Post by **LBdCactus** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:17 pm

Chicat wrote:There is that rare third choice . . . . . Spontaneous Combustion.

If this happens, I'm afraid my son will be absolutely devastated.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:50 pm

If the Suns draft him you can still watch him in the Sonoran desert.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:11 pm

Longhorned wrote:If the Suns draft him you can still watch him in the Sonoran desert.

I would be so excited if the Suns drafted him. (Until about 10 minutes later when they trade him for a future 2nd rounder and a bag of peanuts)

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:14 am

The Suns would never draft Stanley Johnson. McDonough will go for the arcane pick that you've half never heard of and half never envisioned in the NBA. The draftee, despite being injury-prone, will end up contributing in ways that only a connoisseur can understand, and in ways that don't improve the team's record or excite the fan base. But TucsonClip and JMarkJohns will be validated when the Suns eventually are able to use him successfully as trade bait to unload an undesirable contract, along with filler. Meanwhile, the Pistons with Johnson as their centerpiece will have a renaissance replete with multiple championships, but that's a trajectory best appreciated by the lowbrow, casual fan.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:43 am

Longhorned wrote:The Suns would never draft Stanley Johnson. McDonough will go for the arcane pick that you've half never heard of and half never envisioned in the NBA. The draftee, despite being injury-prone, will end up contributing in ways that only a connoisseur can understand, and in ways that don't improve the team's record or excite the fan base. But TucsonClip and JMarkJohns will be validated when the Suns eventually are able to use him successfully as trade bait to unload an undesirable contract, along with filler. Meanwhile, the Pistons with Johnson as their centerpiece will have a renaissance replete with multiple championships, but that's a trajectory best appreciated by the lowbrow, casual fan.

Is there another Morris sibling? If no, the obvious answer is to acquire another PG who does not see himself as a part of the franchise in the long term.

catgrad97 · Post by **catgrad97** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:46 am

And this is how the Suns will remain as long as they are owned by Robert Sarver: Phoenix's 21st-century answer to Bill Bidwill.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:15 am

Any news on Stan?

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:18 am

gumby wrote:Any news on Stan?

When Eminem didn't respond to his letters, he kind of went off the reservation.

azgreg · Post by **azgreg** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:20 am

gumby wrote:Any news on Stan?

He needs a new plan.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:22 am

Heard he went with the breakfast burrito, instead of the oatmeal. Read what you will into that.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:25 am

But nobody gets the oatmeal.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:45 am

True, but the mimosa is a concern. Already spending the money?

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 10:56 am

gumby wrote:Any news on Stan?

Oh crap. Did anyone see this coming?

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