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You really think me liking Denker when no one else did and seeing him at the open compares to what jefe does? I think it is beyond creepy to follow college kids on social media and high school kids are a million times worse. Jefe goes beyond following thme on social media.UAEebs86 wrote:Machina wrote:Jefe equals swim fan equals creeper
B.J. Denker says hi Machina.
Katzenfreund wrote:84Cat wrote:Hmm
Malina...Machina
That's just the way it is when you become a celebrity. It comes with the territory when you choose a path that makes you known to the public. Sports is one of those paths. It's something Stanley Johnson will have to understand and learn how to handle the publicity responsibly. If you want to be more anonymous, choose another profession.Machina wrote:You really think me liking Denker when no one else did and seeing him at the open compares to what jefe does? I think it is beyond creepy to follow college kids on social media and high school kids are a million times worse. Jefe goes beyond following thme on social media.UAEebs86 wrote:Machina wrote:Jefe equals swim fan equals creeper
B.J. Denker says hi Machina.
Let the player play I guess
I guess I dont have as much dust as I thoughtdirtbags wrote:it's like they're walking onto campus with three foot dicks covered in elvis dust, jefe.
rgdeuce wrote:Bruce Pascoe has been kicking it with captain obvious and Mr. Late to the Party, I see
I've heard Allen feels he's accomplished all he can at this level and is thinking about leaving.3goggles wrote:Did anybody see the picture Blair posted about a week ago with PJC, Allen, Zues and SJ. All guys that are thought to be coming back. I didn't see guys who are leaving in that picture
No. Rookies are still on a scale. Unless the scale changes, the incentive is still to leave early, get to the second contract asap, get away from the scale and make real $.Merkin wrote:I don't follow the NBA at all, but would this be an incentive for SJ to stay one more year?
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2292&hilit=rookie+salaryMerkin wrote:I don't follow the NBA at all, but would this be an incentive for SJ to stay one more year?
Yet many leave before they should (not saying that applies to SJ), get drafted in the 1st round on potential and don't develop enough to get that second contract.Spaceman Spiff wrote:No. Rookies are still on a scale. Unless the scale changes, the incentive is still to leave early, get to the second contract asap, get away from the scale and make real $.Merkin wrote:I don't follow the NBA at all, but would this be an incentive for SJ to stay one more year?
Yeah it is sweet. I have the same hat. It is from the Scranton Wilkes-Barre Yankees who were the New York Yankees triple A team. Scranton is still the Yankees triple A team but now they are called the Scranton Wilkes-Barre Railriders.Chicat wrote:I like that Yankees hat KP is wearing.
He's gone.3goggles wrote:So am I crazy for thinking the longer time goes by and he keeps posting pictures with for sure players on next year team our odds are going up for a possible return?
The big thing, other than $ is that first round contracts are guaranteed. For the player, it means financial security, but also, it means the team will probably pay attention to you for longer. If you're a 2nd rounder who tweaks his knee in camp, the team probably won't bother to keep their attention on you while you rehab. 1st rounders, they still have to pay so they probably will pay attention.Merkin wrote:So it would actually be better to be drafted in the second round and sign a shorter contract?
It won't hurt.Merkin wrote:So it would actually be better to be drafted in the second round and sign a shorter contract?
I agree, but if you can call one guy a true Wildcat after just 1 season who better than Stanimal?JMarkJohns wrote:He's gone.3goggles wrote:So am I crazy for thinking the longer time goes by and he keeps posting pictures with for sure players on next year team our odds are going up for a possible return?
Man I would for the chemistry thread to live another year!azgreg wrote:I agree, but if you can call one guy a true Wildcat after just 1 season who better than Stanimal?JMarkJohns wrote:He's gone.3goggles wrote:So am I crazy for thinking the longer time goes by and he keeps posting pictures with for sure players on next year team our odds are going up for a possible return?
http://tucson.com/sports/college/wildca ... e14f9.htmlStanley, Zeus considering staying
Stanley Johnson may be dealing with the biggest decision of his adult life, which … just started.
“He’s only 18,” Johnson’s mother, Karen Taylor, said, repeatedly, while discussing her son’s decision of whether to leave the Arizona Wildcats after just one season.
Sitting in the Top 5 in the NBA mock drafts for most of his freshman season at Arizona, Johnson has slightly dropped into the 6-10 range — which still means he’s projected to earn at least $2 million next season in the NBA.
That’s why UA coaches have been preparing for his departure, and continue to do so. They even have Drexel grad transfer Damion Lee, a high-powered wing scorer, on campus for a recruiting visit this weekend.
But while UA center Kaleb Tarczewski has not yet declared his expected decision to stay at UA, Taylor and Johnson’s high school coach insist Johnson is thinking about sticking around, too.
“I know all the other kids who have announced didn’t come back to school, but Stanley’s still taking classes,” said Gary McKnight, who coached Johnson at Mater Dei High School. “To me that’s a good sign that he’s seriously considering coming back. I’ve encouraged him to stay. He’s only 18 and an extra year of college basketball can put him in the top echelon. And he really enjoys college.”
McKnight said he spoke to Johnson last week and believed he “has a real conflict going and can’t make up his mind.”
Taylor said her son is “still processing” all the information, while Tarczewski’s former coach and mentor John Carroll, said earlier this month that Tarczewski was taking his time with his decision.
While neither Johnson nor Tarczewski could be reached for comment, here’s some of the arguments that might be floating around in their heads as the April 26 deadline to declare for early draft entry nears...
Did Grant Jerrett finish his classes?Merkin wrote:“I know all the other kids who have announced didn’t come back to school, but Stanley’s still taking classes,” said Gary McKnight, who coached Johnson at Mater Dei High School. “To me that’s a good sign that he’s seriously considering coming back.
He is still taking classes since he is still a Wildcat and doesn't want to hurt the team's APR. What kind of asshole would drop out of school and hurt the team?
Or did a new semester start?
cats101 wrote:Hes not coming back, get over it.
cats101 wrote:Hes not coming back, get over it.
Not trying to be a dick, but I don't understand how you are coming to that conclusion. The cap isn't going DOWN, are you basing this around the idea that other players are going to eat up more of the cap space if he waits? Regardless of whether he goes now or in a year his second contract will still be under the increased cap. I would think the rookie scale would increase with the cap, but honestly I don't follow the NBA as closely as I do the NFL so I am not sure how their rookie scale works. I assume it was part of the CBA, and has some sort of provision for increases year to year based on total cap, etc.JMarkJohns wrote:Rising CAP over next four years means Stanley should leave this year so his first year of extension coincides with the likely ceiling of 100+ million CAP. If he waits even one year more he likely costs himself over 8-25 million depending on the type of player he develops into.
If his second contract coincides with a cap raise, he will be part of the FA class that gets the sudden benefit of teams with sudden millions in cap space at the same time he is free to sign for whatever he wants.splitsecond wrote:Not trying to be a dick, but I don't understand how you are coming to that conclusion. The cap isn't going DOWN, are you basing this around the idea that other players are going to eat up more of the cap space if he waits? Regardless of whether he goes now or in a year his second contract will still be under the increased cap. I would think the rookie scale would increase with the cap, but honestly I don't follow the NBA as closely as I do the NFL so I am not sure how their rookie scale works. I assume it was part of the CBA, and has some sort of provision for increases year to year based on total cap, etc.JMarkJohns wrote:Rising CAP over next four years means Stanley should leave this year so his first year of extension coincides with the likely ceiling of 100+ million CAP. If he waits even one year more he likely costs himself over 8-25 million depending on the type of player he develops into.
I understand that part, but I was under the understanding that was happening sooner than he would get his second contract, even if he left this year. Isn't that bump supposed to happen after next season? Hence the possibility of the rookie scale going up as well? All I can remember about it is that Lebron's contract is up at the same time as the increase so he will be able to cash in, and I thought I remembered him getting a 2 years deal.Spaceman Spiff wrote:If his second contract coincides with a cap raise, he will be part of the FA class that gets the sudden benefit of teams with sudden millions in cap space at the same time he is free to sign for whatever he wants.splitsecond wrote:Not trying to be a dick, but I don't understand how you are coming to that conclusion. The cap isn't going DOWN, are you basing this around the idea that other players are going to eat up more of the cap space if he waits? Regardless of whether he goes now or in a year his second contract will still be under the increased cap. I would think the rookie scale would increase with the cap, but honestly I don't follow the NBA as closely as I do the NFL so I am not sure how their rookie scale works. I assume it was part of the CBA, and has some sort of provision for increases year to year based on total cap, etc.JMarkJohns wrote:Rising CAP over next four years means Stanley should leave this year so his first year of extension coincides with the likely ceiling of 100+ million CAP. If he waits even one year more he likely costs himself over 8-25 million depending on the type of player he develops into.
You can extend prior to expiration. Stanley would be hoping for an extension when he is first eligible. The total length runs further.splitsecond wrote:I understand that part, but I was under the understanding that was happening sooner than he would get his second contract, even if he left this year. Isn't that bump supposed to happen after next season? Hence the possibility of the rookie scale going up as well? All I can remember about it is that Lebron's contract is up at the same time as the increase so he will be able to cash in, and I thought I remembered him getting a 2 years deal.Spaceman Spiff wrote:If his second contract coincides with a cap raise, he will be part of the FA class that gets the sudden benefit of teams with sudden millions in cap space at the same time he is free to sign for whatever he wants.splitsecond wrote:Not trying to be a dick, but I don't understand how you are coming to that conclusion. The cap isn't going DOWN, are you basing this around the idea that other players are going to eat up more of the cap space if he waits? Regardless of whether he goes now or in a year his second contract will still be under the increased cap. I would think the rookie scale would increase with the cap, but honestly I don't follow the NBA as closely as I do the NFL so I am not sure how their rookie scale works. I assume it was part of the CBA, and has some sort of provision for increases year to year based on total cap, etc.JMarkJohns wrote:Rising CAP over next four years means Stanley should leave this year so his first year of extension coincides with the likely ceiling of 100+ million CAP. If he waits even one year more he likely costs himself over 8-25 million depending on the type of player he develops into.
Ok that makes sense. That is a lot of speculation - he has to perform to the level needed for an early extension to even get one. So I can see the point, but it is definitely not a guarantee that he "costs himself millions" if he stays.Spaceman Spiff wrote:You can extend prior to expiration. Stanley would be hoping for an extension when he is first eligible. The total length runs further.splitsecond wrote:I understand that part, but I was under the understanding that was happening sooner than he would get his second contract, even if he left this year. Isn't that bump supposed to happen after next season? Hence the possibility of the rookie scale going up as well? All I can remember about it is that Lebron's contract is up at the same time as the increase so he will be able to cash in, and I thought I remembered him getting a 2 years deal.Spaceman Spiff wrote:If his second contract coincides with a cap raise, he will be part of the FA class that gets the sudden benefit of teams with sudden millions in cap space at the same time he is free to sign for whatever he wants.splitsecond wrote:Not trying to be a dick, but I don't understand how you are coming to that conclusion. The cap isn't going DOWN, are you basing this around the idea that other players are going to eat up more of the cap space if he waits? Regardless of whether he goes now or in a year his second contract will still be under the increased cap. I would think the rookie scale would increase with the cap, but honestly I don't follow the NBA as closely as I do the NFL so I am not sure how their rookie scale works. I assume it was part of the CBA, and has some sort of provision for increases year to year based on total cap, etc.JMarkJohns wrote:Rising CAP over next four years means Stanley should leave this year so his first year of extension coincides with the likely ceiling of 100+ million CAP. If he waits even one year more he likely costs himself over 8-25 million depending on the type of player he develops into.
And actually, I guess I screwed up the prior answer. The cap will probably continue to jump, but he wont be a FA first jump.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/9/29/6 ... -explainer
