let's talk '17

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:22 pm

Chicat wrote:
Dave wrote:High energy guy that wants to dunk on everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdhd3QBarR4" target="_blank
Is he ambidextrous?

I don't think so, but you wouldn't know it from his highlights. Kid has a great left hand.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:11 pm

Ari meet Ira
Ira... Ari

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:27 pm

Congrats Ira Lee...good choice. Excited to see this guy compete for a spot! Bear Down.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:14 am

Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:23 am

Chicat wrote:Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.

That's very cool....What's the biggest factor in his decision? Thanks!

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:42 am

Bangkok Wildcat wrote:
Chicat wrote:Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.
That's very cool....What's the biggest factor in his decision? Thanks!

I read that his family is torn. Some want him to stay close to home while others understand the opportunity of getting away and what Arizona offers from a development standpoint.

Catstatic · Post by **Catstatic** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:47 am

Looks to me like he finishes everything around the rim with his left, but he shoots jumpers with his right. He might be ambidextrous. Not sure I've seen that before.

Welcome to the Cat family, Mr. Lee!

Go Cats!!

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:21 am

Chicat wrote:Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.

http://247sports.com/Player/Lonnie-Walker-81416" target="_blank

g32knights · Post by **g32knights** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:48 am

I live near Reading, PA, and I actually teach at an Alternative Ed. school in Reading. It is a really crappy city to live in, tons of gang activity and drugs. I really hope, For Walker's sake, that he does leave and gets out of that. Would love for him to be a Wildcat!

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:49 am

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:20 am

Chicat wrote:Lonnie Walker cancelled his Kentucky visit. He'll likely give Nova one more chance to sway him, but right now he's leaning hard toward being a west coast wildcat.

Nice! Come on, L-Dub!

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:40 am

Hi - new here. Looks like a nice little Wildcat community, hope y'all don't mind me adding my voice.

Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.

Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.

So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank

...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank

It's nice to have that built-in advantage.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:55 am

YoDeFoe wrote:Hi - new here. Looks like a nice little Wildcat community, hope y'all don't mind me adding my voice.

Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.

Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.

So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank

...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank

It's nice to have that built-in advantage.

Welcome. Good to have new members.

Nova does play a lot of games at the Sixers arena, but even then, there's a big difference between going to the local pro arena and having one sitting in the middle of campus. Between RJ and McKale, Arizona has facilities that match anyone in the nation. Even Kentucky and UNC, we're right there.

It's especially important because we don't sit in a fertile recruiting ground. We need out of state recruits to compete. Miller can sell Arizona as a basketball first community, and everything from facilities to our fan support speaks to that.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:27 am

Miller can sell Arizona as a basketball first community, and everything from facilities to our fan support speaks to that.

That's a great point - the sale is a story and our's is consistent through and through. Basketball focused: http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews ... .image.jpg" target="_blank and http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews ... .image.jpg" target="_blank

FWIW Coach K of Utah was just on media day talking about how excited he is to have an upgraded practice facility, hinting how it would help him recruit.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:39 am

AZ, UK, KU, Duke, UNC...these are the best five places to be a college basketball player these days.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:47 am

UK and KU have the leg up these days with their resort style dorms for their players. I imagine we'll have to step up to match at some point. UK started it and KU just matched.

KU: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/ ... insane-ne/" target="_blank and http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/104426576/" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:09 am

YoDeFoe wrote:UK and KU have the leg up these days with their resort style dorms for their players. I imagine we'll have to step up to match at some point. UK started it and KU just matched.

KU: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/ ... insane-ne/" target="_blank and http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/104426576/" target="_blank

Theirs may be better, but last I saw, ours are pretty impressive as well.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:15 am

YoDeFoe wrote:UK and KU have the leg up these days with their resort style dorms for their players. I imagine we'll have to step up to match at some point. UK started it and KU just matched.

KU: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/oct/ ... insane-ne/" target="_blank and http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/104426576/" target="_blank

well all freshmen athletes, especially football and basketball, live in the newest nicest dorm on campus already.

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:20 am

YoDeFoe wrote:Hi - new here. Looks like a nice little Wildcat community, hope y'all don't mind me adding my voice.

Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.

Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.

So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank

...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank

It's nice to have that built-in advantage.

Welcome to the club. Don't believe the rumors about newbies having to buy everyone a beer.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:55 am

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:51 pm

84Cat wrote:

We all know about Miller's coach speak, but who else is he going to play at PG?

I know I didnt post my takes from Red-Blue here, but...

Ive been on the Allen isnt a PG train for over a year now. He needs to play off the ball and be allowed to use his strengths to his advantage.

Kobi isnt ready to play PG yet, and it was pretty clear in the scrimmage. Allen looks like the back up PG by default right now, but Kobi is going to need to share the floor with Allen (like he did in Red-Blue) if he plays any sort of PG role, at least early in the season.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:04 pm

TucsonClip wrote:
84Cat wrote:
We all know about Miller's coach speak, but who else is he going to play at PG?

Rawle Motherfuckin' Alkins

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:31 pm

TucsonClip wrote:
84Cat wrote:
We all know about Miller's coach speak, but who else is he going to play at PG?

I know I didnt post my takes from Red-Blue here, but...

Ive been on the Allen isnt a PG train for over a year now. He needs to play off the ball and be allowed to use his strengths to his advantage.

Kobi isnt ready to play PG yet, and it was pretty clear in the scrimmage. Allen looks like the back up PG by default right now, but Kobi is going to need to share the floor with Allen (like he did in Red-Blue) if he plays any sort of PG role, at least early in the season.

Simplest thing is to have Kobi play in tandem with Kadeem or Alkins, because they're both strong ballhandlers. It's the functional equivalent of training wheels.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:53 pm

From what I've heard from Miller and the internets, coach hopes the PG spot is PJC and Kobi, with Kadeem as needed as a backup but primarily our SG (also shared with Kobi).

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:17 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:
TucsonClip wrote:
84Cat wrote:
We all know about Miller's coach speak, but who else is he going to play at PG?

I know I didnt post my takes from Red-Blue here, but...

Ive been on the Allen isnt a PG train for over a year now. He needs to play off the ball and be allowed to use his strengths to his advantage.

Kobi isnt ready to play PG yet, and it was pretty clear in the scrimmage. Allen looks like the back up PG by default right now, but Kobi is going to need to share the floor with Allen (like he did in Red-Blue) if he plays any sort of PG role, at least early in the season.
Simplest thing is to have Kobi play in tandem with Kadeem or Alkins, because they're both strong ballhandlers. It's the functional equivalent of training wheels.

Thats exactly why Miller played Kobi and Allen on the same team in Red-Blue.

TucsonClip · Post by **TucsonClip** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:19 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:From what I've heard from Miller and the internets, coach hopes the PG spot is PJC and Kobi, with Kadeem as needed as a backup but primarily our SG (also shared with Kobi).

I agree with Miller on Allen needing to play off the ball. However, Kobi isnt ready to play the point. Miller's comments about him playing two positions and his Red-Blue lineup mesh with what Ive seen of Kobi in the scrimmage.

psiclist23 · Post by **psiclist23** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:52 pm

YoDeFoe wrote:Hi - new here. Looks like a nice little Wildcat community, hope y'all don't mind me adding my voice.

Re: Villanova, I was reminded recently that their facilities are out of the 1980s.

Their arena seats 6,500 and looks like a high school gym. Pretty sure their training and practice facilities are lagging as well.

So when we talk about renovations and upgrades to our facilities and how that benefits our recruiting, this is a prime example. Villanova is talking about renovating their arena, but currently Lonnie Walker can choose between this: http://aviewfrommyseat.com/wallpaper/mc ... 185735.jpg" target="_blank

...and this: http://www.pdc.arizona.edu/images/McKale-Slider.jpg" target="_blank

It's nice to have that built-in advantage.

And the weather, of course.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:05 pm

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:52 am

Holy shit, Shereen Ryan gets a press pass?! WTF

KOQSTRONG · Post by **KOQSTRONG** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:30 am

Seems like the Ira Lee commitment was kind of quiet. I saw it on here and then on twitter the other day, but Scheer doesn't have one tweet or even a retweet about it. Seems a bit odd. But glad the kid finally committed!

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:33 am

KOQSTRONG wrote:Seems like the Ira Lee commitment was kind of quiet. I saw it on here and then on twitter the other day, but Scheer doesn't have one tweet or even a retweet about it. Seems a bit odd. But glad the kid finally committed!

He tweets that stuff from here now:

https://twitter.com/AZAuthority" target="_blank

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:41 am

Beachcat97 wrote:AZ, UK, KU, Duke, UNC...these are the best five places to be a college basketball player these days.

Yeah. Except for, you know, those issues with our S&C program, right?

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:38 am

Alieberman wrote:Ari meet Ira
Ira... Ari

I fear another bagel theft.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:40 am

UAEebs86 wrote:
KOQSTRONG wrote:Seems like the Ira Lee commitment was kind of quiet. I saw it on here and then on twitter the other day, but Scheer doesn't have one tweet or even a retweet about it. Seems a bit odd. But glad the kid finally committed!

He tweets that stuff from here now:

https://twitter.com/AZAuthority" target="_blank

Good to know. I unfollowed that, because it was always redundant. Guess that's changed.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:49 am

Did anyone go watch Ayton?

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/3345 ... son-a-star" target="_blank

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:06 pm

damn, I forgot all about it

prh · Post by **prh** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:11 pm

gumby wrote:Did anyone go watch Ayton?

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/3345 ... son-a-star" target="_blank

Buddy of mine went. Two main observations:
1. Very low shot release. Whether that becomes an issue or not, who knows.
2. "Doesn't run well." I asked him whether he meant run the floor or physically run, he said both. Not as bad as Greg Oden though, and most kids encounter issues after college anyways (oh hello recent KU big men).

Beermancats · Post by **Beermancats** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:02 am

Catstatic wrote:Looks to me like he finishes everything around the rim with his left, but he shoots jumpers with his right. He might be ambidextrous. Not sure I've seen that before.

Welcome to the Cat family, Mr. Lee!

Go Cats!!

Look no further than this year's team. Rawle Alkins shoots with his right, but almost exclusively finishes at the rim with his left.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:21 am

prh wrote:
gumby wrote:Did anyone go watch Ayton?

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/3345 ... son-a-star" target="_blank
Buddy of mine went. Two main observations:
1. Very low shot release. Whether that becomes an issue or not, who knows.
2. "Doesn't run well." I asked him whether he meant run the floor or physically run, he said both. Not as bad as Greg Oden though, and most kids encounter issues after college anyways (oh hello recent KU big men).

I watched one of his videos and his release didn't look low, but he has poor mechanics for a guy who wants to be a threat inside and outside. His shot preparation was bad and he takes a ton of time to get it from the shot pocket to release. Can get away with it in high school, but yea.

Just read one of his scouting reports which noted his low release and in the pic above the report, his release looks good. Said scouting report notes his mechanics "change by the day" so that would explain all of this.

Your buddy was right about his motor, I picked up on that really quick and his scouting report discusses it too. He looks like the star high school player who is playing a quick pickup game at lunch with his friends but doesn't want to exert too much energy because he has a game that night.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:34 am

I'd mentioned the SI article right before Ayton commited, but that one also talked about him being casual about running. I don't really think that's particularly unusual for a big time prospect. Stanley had Miller get on him for consistent effort. Really physically talented guys can get away with so so effort in HS easily.

I'm still more worried about overseas and eligibility.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:46 pm

These glowing reviews have helped with my overseas/eligibility fears.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:27 pm

If pressed to choose only one, I wonder what most would prefer: Trier is eligible for this entire season or Ayton actually plays at AZ next year?

baycat93 · Post by **baycat93** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:34 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:If pressed to choose only one, I wonder what most would prefer: Trier is eligible for this entire season or Ayton actually plays at AZ next year?

Tougher decision w/o McCoy in the fold... but would lean Trier for this season. Bird in the hand. win now, worry about next year, next year.

rgdeuce · Post by **rgdeuce** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:34 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:If pressed to choose only one, I wonder what most would prefer: Trier is eligible for this entire season or Ayton actually plays at AZ next year?

Trier now, and not even a tough decision. Next year we will (probably) have Dusan at Center with Chance backing him up/playing the 4. Lee incoming, Smith likely returning, and there is plenty of time left with the 17 class. Focus on the now, you can always adapt later.

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:01 pm

Why the need to even play devil's advocate? Take both.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:11 pm

I know this guy is going to MSU but he will be here this weekdend

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:16 pm

Chicat wrote:

Lonnie Walker closer

http://247sports.com/Player/Lonnie-Walker-81416" target="_blank

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:23 pm

The PA pipeline strikes again. It makes sense with CSM's history and all. He would be #3 right?

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:56 pm

I'd take Trier this year over Ayton next year, if we could only have one. And yeah, it's not even close.

Sorta think AT being eligible could be the difference between merely getting to the tourney and perhaps getting to the second weekend.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:17 pm

84Cat wrote:I know this guy is going to MSU but he will be here this weekdend

Yeah. It's not happening. Can't remember a time when a guy was this heavy of a lean to another school and then suddenly committed to AZ.

http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/ ... redictions" target="_blank

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