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You also said:ButtonSalmon wrote:Trier is a good kid he is getting fucked he did not really do anything wrong. That is what makes this really fucked up
"The players are told, reminded and told again to not take anything, from a doctor or otherwise, unless they clear it with team doctors. Trier knew this and took it anyway. That is all the NCAA cares about, he is 100% at fault."
So he's 100% at fault for doing nothing wrong?
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Don't bother BMC. He was banned for making outright racist comments on the lower boards.
Good riddance.
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Anyone who claims to be an insider and then charges money to join a private forum is lying.
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Isn't that every recruiting service like scout rivals and 247? Shoot, espn calls it insiderPuerco wrote:Anyone who claims to be an insider and then charges money to join a private forum is lying.
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I just had a big salad with spinach, hummus, broccoli, quinoa, feta, and balsamic glaze dusted w/cayenne.
That is quite possibly the most actionable information to be discovered in this particular thread. I suggest you have the same. And you're welcome.
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That is quite possibly the most actionable information to be discovered in this particular thread. I suggest you have the same. And you're welcome.
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Hummus is fattening. Even the name suggests so. No parents who name their infant son Hummus expect him to grow into anything other than a rotund man in a poncho home-fashioned from a burlap sack.
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What about a trash bag poncho?Longhorned wrote:Hummus is fattening. Even the name suggests so. No parents who name their infant son Hummus expect him to grow into anything other than a rotund man in a poncho home-fashioned from a burlap sack.
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You name him Pius.wyo-cat wrote:What about a trash bag poncho?Longhorned wrote:Hummus is fattening. Even the name suggests so. No parents who name their infant son Hummus expect him to grow into anything other than a rotund man in a poncho home-fashioned from a burlap sack.
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He would be pious due to the fact he would never get laid because he's wearing bin liners.Longhorned wrote:You name him Pius.wyo-cat wrote:What about a trash bag poncho?Longhorned wrote:Hummus is fattening. Even the name suggests so. No parents who name their infant son Hummus expect him to grow into anything other than a rotund man in a poncho home-fashioned from a burlap sack.
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Those services have press level information that for which they feel it is worth charging. If you're privy to real inside information, like what is going on with Trier, and you let it slip, then you'll never get that level of info again.MrBug708 wrote:Isn't that every recruiting service like scout rivals and 247? Shoot, espn calls it insiderPuerco wrote:Anyone who claims to be an insider and then charges money to join a private forum is lying.
Our cute little Button probably knows someone who knows someone, but I doubt he's really an insider.
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Waiting for the other shoe to drop...
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Oh, haven't you heard?Beachcat97 wrote:Waiting for the other shoe to drop...
Right where I want to be.
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Prob time to move on fellas
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Did I or anyone else ever import the post;
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Well foo
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Wow. This is getting real.Main Event wrote: Prob time to move on fellas
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This just means the appeal hasn't been decided yet. We will know shortly after GB and CSM know what the decision is.Main Event wrote: Prob time to move on fellas
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He's still with the team.
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If he's going through an appeal process, he won't play until it's done, so him not playing simply means that. No more, no less.
If it's a prescription-PED thing, would that be under HIPPA?
If it's a prescription-PED thing, would that be under HIPPA?
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Actually this just means that miller said "no comment, next question".84Cat wrote:This just means the appeal hasn't been decided yet. We will know shortly after GB and CSM know what the decision is.Main Event wrote: Prob time to move on fellas
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Why couldn't he play in an exhibition game. Not much different than the red blue or is it? I would be more concerned if he played but ran with the second unit as they know they need to establish rles as if they did not have him out there
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It's obviously a private matter, and CSM won't say a word about it. He's protecting his player, as he should.
But as days and weeks pass, and the first actual game approaches, I don't know if they're going to let this become another Pitts situation where a player is not playing, and there's no explanation given. It would presumably be much harder to do this with Trier, who's arguably our best player. Hopefully, there's going to be a ruling or resolution soon, and everyone can move forward, mainly AT. He deserves to know where he stands.
But as days and weeks pass, and the first actual game approaches, I don't know if they're going to let this become another Pitts situation where a player is not playing, and there's no explanation given. It would presumably be much harder to do this with Trier, who's arguably our best player. Hopefully, there's going to be a ruling or resolution soon, and everyone can move forward, mainly AT. He deserves to know where he stands.
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Thank christ we have you here for us Beach.
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It's called student athlete's privacy.Beachcat97 wrote:It's obviously a private matter, and CSM won't say a word about it. He's protecting his player, as he should.
But as days and weeks pass, and the first actual game approaches, I don't know if they're going to let this become another Pitts situation where a player is not playing, and there's no explanation given. It would presumably be much harder to do this with Trier, who's arguably our best player. Hopefully, there's going to be a ruling or resolution soon, and everyone can move forward, mainly AT. He deserves to know where he stands.
I wouldn't expect a resolution any time soon, probably a month or so. In the mean time I wouldn't expect Zo on the court.
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There's certain team activities he's allowed to do and certain he's not now. Don't freak out when he's not on the bench in Hawaii.azcat49 wrote:Why couldn't he play in an exhibition game. Not much different than the red blue or is it? I would be more concerned if he played but ran with the second unit as they know they need to establish rles as if they did not have him out there
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We won't because we know what's going on. But that's a high profile game, so we can expect this to become a national story, if it hasn't already. There's been hardly any coverage of this situation by national media.ChooChooCat wrote: Don't freak out when he's not on the bench in Hawaii.
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fwiw...
If the appeal is on going, Allonzo should be allowed to play. Unless there's a final decision, AT should be on the court. (Or maybe CSM/ AT have agreed to sitting him out till they sort things out) Otherwise it just seems unfair to force him to miss games in this situation.![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
If the appeal is on going, Allonzo should be allowed to play. Unless there's a final decision, AT should be on the court. (Or maybe CSM/ AT have agreed to sitting him out till they sort things out) Otherwise it just seems unfair to force him to miss games in this situation.
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But if he played and were later found to be ineligible, we'd have to forfeit any wins we got with him playing, right?HiCat wrote:fwiw...
If the appeal is on going, Allonzo should be allowed to play. Unless there's a final decision, AT should be on the court. (Or maybe CSM/ AT have agreed to sitting him out till they sort things out) Otherwise it just seems unfair to force him to miss games in this situation.
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Probably so, but no harm in an exhibition.
But then again, he doesn't need the playing time like the true freshmen do.
But then again, he doesn't need the playing time like the true freshmen do.
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Is there really any harm in forfeiting non-conference games either? That would impact RPI, but you'd think the selection committee would still take what's clearly a great team. But you never know with them. What would you guys say?
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Play an ineligible player, don't go to the tourney. The NCAA, well, the worst sin around them is violating their rules.prh wrote:Is there really any harm in forfeiting non-conference games either? That would impact RPI, but you'd think the selection committee would still take what's clearly a great team. But you never know with them. What would you guys say?
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I don't think that's accurate in this case. Also what if I told you an appeal hasn't been filed yet?HiCat wrote:fwiw...
If the appeal is on going, Allonzo should be allowed to play. Unless there's a final decision, AT should be on the court. (Or maybe CSM/ AT have agreed to sitting him out till they sort things out) Otherwise it just seems unfair to force him to miss games in this situation.
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That would mean a decision hasn't been reached by the ncaa which is good. Appeals are harder to win than initial decisions.
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Initial decisions are easy when it's simply pass or fail and that's already been decided at this point.Gilbertcat wrote:That would mean a decision hasn't been reached by the ncaa which is good. Appeals are harder to win than initial decisions.
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In other words, he failed and won't be playing in the exhibition game?ChooChooCat wrote:Initial decisions are easy when it's simply pass or fail and that's already been decided at this point.Gilbertcat wrote:That would mean a decision hasn't been reached by the ncaa which is good. Appeals are harder to win than initial decisions.
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ChooChooCat wrote:I don't think that's accurate in this case. Also what if I told you an appeal hasn't been filed yet?HiCat wrote:fwiw...
If the appeal is on going, Allonzo should be allowed to play. Unless there's a final decision, AT should be on the court. (Or maybe CSM/ AT have agreed to sitting him out till they sort things out) Otherwise it just seems unfair to force him to miss games in this situation.
I'm confused.
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In case you all wanted to know, the Ban count on PGU is now at 5... I guess its bad to call out ACE on his insecurities and lack of knowledge when it comes to College Basketball
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Lol... Thanks for the update!
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On eve of exhibition, Allonzo Trier's status remains unclear
Bruce Pascoe Arizona Daily Star Updated 11 hrs ago
UA coach Sean Miller would not say if Allonzo Trier will play in Arizona’s exhibition game against the College of Idaho on Tuesday, or whether he's been practicing with the Wildcats.
Trier did not show up as scheduled at the Pac-12 media day in San Francisco on Oct. 21, when Miller declined comment (as he did following the Oct. 14 Red-Blue Game). So since it has been a while, after Miller initially declined comment again today, I asked him if it was a situation that's still pending or under some sort of appeal.
“I was taught a long time ago when I was four years old that no doesn’t mean maybe,” Miller said in response. “Maybe that’s just Beaver County, Pennsylvania. But no doesn’t mean maybe."
http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 4fdef.html" target="_blank
Bruce Pascoe Arizona Daily Star Updated 11 hrs ago
UA coach Sean Miller would not say if Allonzo Trier will play in Arizona’s exhibition game against the College of Idaho on Tuesday, or whether he's been practicing with the Wildcats.
Trier did not show up as scheduled at the Pac-12 media day in San Francisco on Oct. 21, when Miller declined comment (as he did following the Oct. 14 Red-Blue Game). So since it has been a while, after Miller initially declined comment again today, I asked him if it was a situation that's still pending or under some sort of appeal.
“I was taught a long time ago when I was four years old that no doesn’t mean maybe,” Miller said in response. “Maybe that’s just Beaver County, Pennsylvania. But no doesn’t mean maybe."
http://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcat ... 4fdef.html" target="_blank
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Is this going to be a "30 For 30"?ChooChooCat wrote:I don't think that's accurate in this case. Also what if I told you an appeal hasn't been filed yet?HiCat wrote:fwiw...
If the appeal is on going, Allonzo should be allowed to play. Unless there's a final decision, AT should be on the court. (Or maybe CSM/ AT have agreed to sitting him out till they sort things out) Otherwise it just seems unfair to force him to miss games in this situation.
Right where I want to be.
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Love Miller's response.
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Colombo is kinda a dick. wTG Miller.
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But what was the "Pitts Situation?"Beachcat97 wrote: But as days and weeks pass, and the first actual game approaches, I don't know if they're going to let this become another Pitts situation where a player is not playing, and there's no explanation given.
We didn't know what was going on with Pitts but something was and he wasn't playing? OK.
And how was that a situation? It wasn't a distraction...no one asked anymore. People assumed he was not coming back. After about 5 games, it was not a "situation" as to imply there was some impact other than his absence. It was just a reality.
A player is not playing. The explanation is given to the people who need to know (the players). What is the situation? That the 4% of the fan base that goes nuts on message boards has not gotten their answer? Especially considering about 50% of that 4% knew what the situation was, just like many know what this situation is.
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Round and round we go. Done with this thread until we actually know anything.EVCat wrote:But what was the "Pitts Situation?"Beachcat97 wrote: But as days and weeks pass, and the first actual game approaches, I don't know if they're going to let this become another Pitts situation where a player is not playing, and there's no explanation given.
We didn't know what was going on with Pitts but something was and he wasn't playing? OK.
And how was that a situation? It wasn't a distraction...no one asked anymore. People assumed he was not coming back. After about 5 games, it was not a "situation" as to imply there was some impact other than his absence. It was just a reality.
A player is not playing. The explanation is given to the people who need to know (the players). What is the situation? That the 4% of the fan base that goes nuts on message boards has not gotten their answer? Especially considering about 50% of that 4% knew what the situation was, just like many know what this situation is.
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however, just to be clear, the Pitts situation was a major distraction inside the locker room, around the program in general, and in the athletic department. the team dealt with a bunch of drama that never reached the public -- to a point that i wouldnt wish any of what happened last year on any team trying to make a serious run in March.
if ya asked Coach Miller that he would say the same thing, the fact that it was kept out of the public domain in no way fairly depicts the negative impact it had.
if ya asked Coach Miller that he would say the same thing, the fact that it was kept out of the public domain in no way fairly depicts the negative impact it had.
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Ehh. I like the idea of it. But the Beaver County, Pennslyvania bit irks me for some reason. I understand it is where he is from, but the whole connotation is "where I come from, truth is truth and no is no, but I don't know what you all do out here."rgdeuce wrote:Love Miller's response.
Also, the question HAS to be asked. If it wasn't asked, the people who subscribe or may subscribe to the paper, the die hards on these message boards, would be flipping out. "The Tucson media are pussies. They won't even ask the question. How are we ever supposed to find out?' and so forth. If you don't ask the question each presser, things could change and some national media scoops the story and Miller could say "well...you didn't ask if it was resolved. It isn't my job to do your job for you." Because coaches always favor national press, even though those MFers barely know the team's mascot name and aren't there grinding with you on another 11:20p end in Pullman, Washington, getting the story of the game out for the later morning edition.
It goes to a larger pet peeve of mine, of coaches of college sports believing their own hype, and really thinking what they do is super important and elevates them above the people who cover them and the people who fill the seats and watch the sport. You coach people to throw a ball through a hole, at its essence, in representation of a university, presumably with student athletes doing the ball throwing/stopping. You are very popular, you have a player who is being held out, rumors are everywhere that he is suspended due to an NCAA investigation, and the reporter for the sports section that covers the program and thereby helps in promotion of this product that pays the coach an astonishingly high salary (deserved, but still a result of our own misplaced priorities, not his fault) asks a question, as he will at every presser, about the situation. The Nick Saban effect...coach as God. Miller slips into that mode more than I am comfortable with (not that my opinion matters).
The question is coming, and is part of the job. Your job is partially to deal with this situation. The guy asking the question is trying to make his employers happy so he keeps getting a paycheck. The question is valid. Your inability to answer is also valid. So cut the talking down to the guy who is not, in any way, your direct report or your inferior, and just answer the fucking question, no matter how exhausting it is to say the same 5 seconds worth of words once a week. The question was different than the "can you give details about why Trier is out"...substantially. There is a chance Miller could (though he won't) say "I can't give you details on what is going on with Allonzo, but I can tell you that we are working with the athletic department, league, and NCAA to have a resolution to all player issues as soon as possible" or "there are a lot of rumors out there. We have heard them. We have asked the NCAA if we can proceed with our expected roster and are awaiting word", or a number of other answers that aren't "fuck you...I said no. Go to bed without supper."
My discomfort with this really gets down to the dichotomy in my own head...I love this stuff and am obsessed with it and follow the team closely and live and die on its every move and love Miller and want us to do whatever we need to do monetarily to keep him...but at the same time, he isn't 1/10th as important as a single of our medical school instructors or engineering profs, or the Astronomical Sciences staff, etc, etc. People like me give these adults who played a game well then taught people how to play a game well a profile that allows them to, frankly, act like primadonnas at times. The most common example is the interaction of coach with the press. If the press didn't cover them, the coach would freak out. There are still a lot of current ticketholders who read the beat writer and the Star and their coverage helps the coach much more than it hurts him. You all have to work in close proximity. Just be decent.