Allonzo Trier

UofAlum05 · Post by **UofAlum05** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:35 pm

Must be close to getting out of his system if there is much anticipation before the last 2 games.

84Cat · Post by **84Cat** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:45 pm

UAEebs86 · Post by **UAEebs86** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:52 pm

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:10 pm

84Cat wrote:

Sheer calling out someone for a Twitter fail?

That's rich

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:14 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
84Cat wrote:
Sheer calling out someone for a Twitter fail?

That's rich

What has Scheer ever contributed to Twitter fail?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:24 pm

Longhorned wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
84Cat wrote:
Sheer calling out someone for a Twitter fail?

That's rich
What has Scheer ever contributed to Twitter fail?

I stopped following him after calling Ivan Rabb a Momma's boy for staying at home for college... so it has been a while, but he was the ultimate dogmatic fan, from what I remember.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:51 pm

84Cat wrote:Someone steal all his sweatpants please!

Seriously, how is that the telltale sign? He wore shorts and game shoes last time.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:49 pm

Harvey Specter wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
Harvey Specter wrote:
84Cat wrote:
Sheer calling out someone for a Twitter fail?

That's rich
What has Scheer ever contributed to Twitter fail?
I stopped following him after calling Ivan Rabb a Momma's boy for staying at home for college... so it has been a while, but he was the ultimate dogmatic fan, from what I remember.

I don't think you understand the number of emails, twitter DMs, PMs, and posts he has to answer when some random dude says Trier is playing. I don't blame him at all for being annoyed at the "you heard it here first" crowd.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:58 pm

Chicat wrote: I don't think you understand the number of emails, twitter DMs, PMs, and posts he has to answer when some random dude says Trier is playing. I don't blame him at all for being annoyed at the "you heard it here first" crowd.

That's all well and good, Chi. But if he really called Rabb a momma's boy for staying home, he's a fucking bitch and I couldn't give a shit about what he has to deal with in his inbox. What a bitch move from a supposed "professional". Nobody has the right to say that about a kid's college decision. That's absolutely awful.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:25 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:
Chicat wrote: I don't think you understand the number of emails, twitter DMs, PMs, and posts he has to answer when some random dude says Trier is playing. I don't blame him at all for being annoyed at the "you heard it here first" crowd.
That's all well and good, Chi. But if he really called Rabb a momma's boy for staying home, he's a fucking bitch and I couldn't give a shit about what he has to deal with in his inbox. What a bitch move from a supposed "professional". Nobody has the right to say that about a kid's college decision. That's absolutely awful.

I would confirm what he said for myself before going HAM like that, but hey, that's just me...

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:35 pm

dcZONAfan wrote:
Chicat wrote: I don't think you understand the number of emails, twitter DMs, PMs, and posts he has to answer when some random dude says Trier is playing. I don't blame him at all for being annoyed at the "you heard it here first" crowd.
That's all well and good, Chi. But if he really called Rabb a momma's boy for staying home, he's a fucking bitch and I couldn't give a shit about what he has to deal with in his inbox. What a bitch move from a supposed "professional". Nobody has the right to say that about a kid's college decision. That's absolutely awful.

That's pretty much where I am parked on the matter, and it is not the only time he has done that kind of shit. In all fairness to him, it is not uncommon among site moderators.

These guys fancy themselves as some sort of professional sports journalists, when in reality they are nothing but fans with a platform and a rah-rah agenda.

They typically kiss the asses of the people in charge of the programs they follow (for continued access, I know) ... But if I want to read dogmatic homer bullshit, why pay for it when I can go to any UA website and read it for free.

Good for them, I know a lot of people eat it up. I am just not one of them.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:43 pm

Are some of you starting to think he may not play this year?

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:47 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Are some of you starting to think he may not play this year?

No. The thought has never crossed my mind.

Doh!

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:10 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Are some of you starting to think he may not play this year?

He'll play, shut up.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:31 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Are some of you starting to think he may not play this year?
He'll play, shut up.

Probably. But we have no reason to think this.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:53 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:Are some of you starting to think he may not play this year?

Nope. My source (as I have one...just one) says "very close", which makes me think it wasn't known until the last day this time. We have a week before another game...I would not be surprised to see him available on the roadie.

But the "go" time cannot be circled on a calendar. We can know when it is close, but the tests will determine thar

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:05 am

Beachcat97 wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Are some of you starting to think he may not play this year?
He'll play, shut up.
Probably. But we have no reason to think this.

You have reason to believe this. Any indication of "no reason to believe" is just not paying attention.

I have every reason that he will return and know it was close today and there is one possible hang up that could undo it but we are close. And that timing couldn't be better if it works out.

The very fact that he is there, Miller talked about him (even if he had to peel back due to a cautious program), he continues to work with the team, and the press, who know, largely what is up, haven't said "oh...he is done". All of those should be reasons for you, in context, to think he is coming back.

Bangkok Wildcat · Post by **Bangkok Wildcat** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:22 am

EVCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Are some of you starting to think he may not play this year?
Nope. My source (as I have one...just one) says "very close", which makes me think it wasn't known until the last day this time. We have a week before another game...I would not be surprised to see him available on the roadie.

But the "go" time cannot be circled on a calendar. We can know when it is close, but the tests will determine thar

We will need him to have a decent chance at UCLA IMHO.....of course I'm being very conservative on that at this time....

Harvey Specter · Post by **Harvey Specter** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:37 am

Chicat wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
Chicat wrote: I don't think you understand the number of emails, twitter DMs, PMs, and posts he has to answer when some random dude says Trier is playing. I don't blame him at all for being annoyed at the "you heard it here first" crowd.
That's all well and good, Chi. But if he really called Rabb a momma's boy for staying home, he's a fucking bitch and I couldn't give a shit about what he has to deal with in his inbox. What a bitch move from a supposed "professional". Nobody has the right to say that about a kid's college decision. That's absolutely awful.
I would confirm what he said for myself before going HAM like that, but hey, that's just me...

Not a direct quote but I am not sure how else you would interpret this one...

Although I am quite sure he must have posted something similar when Adam Hall picked UA over Bama & USC in FB... I mean, cuz he's an objective professional and all.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:30 am

"Momma's boy" must be in there somewhere. I'll put on my decoder ring and find it.

Of course he could have been talking about not wanting to leave familiar environs, his friends, high school coaches, mentors, handlers, family in general, but you made it about Rabb's mom and you've got posters calling Scheer a "fucking bitch". Excellent work Harv.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:46 am

Chicat wrote:"Momma's boy" must be in there somewhere. I'll put on my decoder ring and find it.

Of course he could have been talking about not wanting to leave familiar environs, his friends, high school coaches, mentors, handlers, family in general, but you made it about Rabb's mom and you've got posters calling Scheer a "fucking bitch". Excellent work Harv.

I'd echo your thought above that the posters have some responsibility for that as well.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:52 am

EVCat wrote: I have every reason that he will return and know it was close today and there is one possible hang up that could undo it but we are close.

Once he's back, is he back? Or will it depend on fluctuations of things like body sweat and hair products?

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:25 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Beachcat97 wrote:Are some of you starting to think he may not play this year?
He'll play, shut up.

When AT hits the floor at McKale the joint's going to be jumping.

Let the party start by the 21st!

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:05 am

Longhorned wrote:
EVCat wrote: I have every reason that he will return and know it was close today and there is one possible hang up that could undo it but we are close.
Once he's back, is he back? Or will it depend on fluctuations of things like body sweat and hair products?

Once he's back he's back, no more rigorous testing.

Alieberman · Post by **Alieberman** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:27 am

ChooChooCat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
EVCat wrote: I have every reason that he will return and know it was close today and there is one possible hang up that could undo it but we are close.
Once he's back, is he back? Or will it depend on fluctuations of things like body sweat and hair products?
Once he's back he's back, no more rigorous testing.

I'm inferring that he is getting tested regularly (weekly) and it's just not completely out of his system yet.

Hot or Cold?

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:29 am

I don't know if it's hot or cold but it's in the punch bowl.

Bear Down Vegas · Post by **Bear Down Vegas** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:33 am

Harvey Specter wrote:
Chicat wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
Chicat wrote: I don't think you understand the number of emails, twitter DMs, PMs, and posts he has to answer when some random dude says Trier is playing. I don't blame him at all for being annoyed at the "you heard it here first" crowd.
That's all well and good, Chi. But if he really called Rabb a momma's boy for staying home, he's a fucking bitch and I couldn't give a shit about what he has to deal with in his inbox. What a bitch move from a supposed "professional". Nobody has the right to say that about a kid's college decision. That's absolutely awful.
I would confirm what he said for myself before going HAM like that, but hey, that's just me...
Not a direct quote but I am not sure how else you would interpret this one...

Although I am quite sure he must have posted something similar when Adam Hall picked UA over Bama & USC in FB... I mean, cuz he's an objective professional and all.

Really??

I am not sure how anyone wouldn't grade you pretty low on an interpretation scale.

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:36 am

Harvey Specter wrote:
Chicat wrote:
dcZONAfan wrote:
Chicat wrote: I don't think you understand the number of emails, twitter DMs, PMs, and posts he has to answer when some random dude says Trier is playing. I don't blame him at all for being annoyed at the "you heard it here first" crowd.
That's all well and good, Chi. But if he really called Rabb a momma's boy for staying home, he's a fucking bitch and I couldn't give a shit about what he has to deal with in his inbox. What a bitch move from a supposed "professional". Nobody has the right to say that about a kid's college decision. That's absolutely awful.
I would confirm what he said for myself before going HAM like that, but hey, that's just me...
Not a direct quote but I am not sure how else you would interpret this one...

Although I am quite sure he must have posted something similar when Adam Hall picked UA over Bama & USC in FB... I mean, cuz he's an objective professional and all.

Give me a fucking break.

Main Event · Post by **Main Event** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:39 am

Alieberman wrote:
ChooChooCat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
EVCat wrote: I have every reason that he will return and know it was close today and there is one possible hang up that could undo it but we are close.
Once he's back, is he back? Or will it depend on fluctuations of things like body sweat and hair products?
Once he's back he's back, no more rigorous testing.
I'm inferring that he is getting tested regularly (weekly) and it's just not completely out of his system yet.

Hot or Cold?

Yup

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:51 pm

Somebody on Twitter gave Pascoe grief for "raising hopes" on Trier. Basically, he should stop writing about it.

Up next: "Where is the investigative reporting on Trier?"

Can't win.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:14 pm

rules Q, does an athlete who tests positive need to show the ncaa one clean test result to be cleared, or sustain a series of clean tests in a row as evidence?

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:18 pm

dirtbags wrote:rules Q, does an athlete who tests positive need to show the ncaa one clean test result to be cleared, or sustain a series of clean tests in a row as evidence?

All it takes is one.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:21 pm

Weird seeing him in the warmup shirt and meeting the refs and ASU players at halfcourt before the game like he was the Co-Captain. I was really hoping for a 2nd half return

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:34 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
dirtbags wrote:rules Q, does an athlete who tests positive need to show the ncaa one clean test result to be cleared, or sustain a series of clean tests in a row as evidence?
All it takes is one.

excellent. thanks @choochoo

CalStateTempe · Post by **CalStateTempe** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:40 pm

ChooChooCat wrote:
Longhorned wrote:
EVCat wrote: I have every reason that he will return and know it was close today and there is one possible hang up that could undo it but we are close.
Once he's back, is he back? Or will it depend on fluctuations of things like body sweat and hair products?
Once he's back he's back, no more rigorous testing.

As a medical review officer for employers/institutions in similar or analogous situations, this is correct.

Choo's correct.

One and done.

dirtbags · Post by **dirtbags** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:56 pm

best kind of OAD

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:28 am

I keep expecting somebody in rap to risk all their money on Trier and rise from 50th place to 1st.

splitsecond · Post by **splitsecond** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:22 pm

Longhorned wrote:I keep expecting somebody in rap to risk all their money on Trier and rise from 50th place to 1st.

This is my kind of strategy

Merkin · Post by **Merkin** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:48 pm

http://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketball ... ble-return" target="_blank

“Allonzo’s situation is kind of a once in a lifetime situation,” Miller says at about the six minute mark of the podcast. “He practices every day, so you have a great feel for how good he is, and in my mind, he would be one of the best guards in college basketball this season.”

“I can’t even say that I’m optimistic Jon,” Arizona’s coach says later on in the conversation. “I’m neutral. It is a very, very unique situation. It’s not something that I have control over...We have our fingers crossed that at some point he gets the green light, but at this point, I really can’t say when or even if it’s going to happen.”

Miller was asked about these comments in his weekly Monday press conference, and had this to say:

“I’m ambivalent. I don’t have control over the situation. When you’re dealing with a crisis or adversity, you finally settle in to what you really can control. We are coaching Allonzo. Academically he’s in a great place. He practices hard every day, is in great physical condition, but he’s not allowed to play and it’s not my choice. It’s just one of those situations that I wish was different, but it’s not.”

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:04 pm

Longhorned wrote:I keep expecting somebody in rap to risk all their money on Trier and rise from 50th place to 1st.

Like he's gonna play like God his first time back?

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:38 pm

So is Miller walking back his earlier enthusiasm due to some pressure, or did the one thing that could screw this up happen and we have reason to fear the worst?

HiCat · Post by **HiCat** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:53 pm

“I can’t even say that I’m optimistic Jon,” Arizona’s coach says later on in the conversation. “I’m neutral. It is a very, very unique situation. It’s not something that I have control over...We have our fingers crossed that at some point he gets the green light, but at this point, I really can’t say when or even if it’s going to happen.”

arrrrghhh

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:16 pm

This is probably a moot question but since we are all pretty much speculating I'll ask it anyway...

Miller talks about this coming from higher up, him just being a foot soldier...now not knowing all the ins-and-outs of Division 1 coaching hierarchy, do you think Greg B's leaving will have any impact/effect/resolution regarding this "once in a lifetime" outlier situation with Trier?

Is the higher up somehow affected or influenced by Greg Byrne at all, or is this purely NCAA laboratory rat feces in a stool sample?

I've heard some suggest this was not a NCAA imposed suspension, which seems ludicrous since Trier is allowed to travel (receive team financial benefits in the form of flights and motel/lodging/food), and Miller has said (today) that Trier is doing well in all other regards which includes classroom, so its obviously not (and never was) academic...for the school to impose a suspension and Millers language it would mean Byrne was pulling the strings, (which is HIGHLY unlikely unless it's some kind of investigation of a Pitts level accusation or Nike shoe deal not covered by NCAA rules...he DOES post a ton of Nike shoe pics, how does any college kid afford THAT many new shoes?)...

I'm not buying that Byrne has anything at all to do with this, but since it does affect the Uni. maybe the NCAA will speed up resolution with the news of his imminent departure forthcoming...

Inquiring minds want to know...

CatFanOneMil · Post by **CatFanOneMil** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:19 pm

P.S. Ace is a fucking liar and knows nothing, I've seen his info on his pf and he's wrong...but of course he will never admit it being the retarded hindu drug addict he is...

ChooChooCat · Post by **ChooChooCat** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:31 pm

I've got nothing this week for you guys outside of the fact that the Holiday will hurt in regards to any resolution by the USC game, although it's not impossible.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:41 pm

He must be so tired of peeing in front of strangers.

The Goat · Post by **The Goat** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:08 pm

Chicat wrote:He must be so tired of peeing in front of strangers.

At least he has a fall back career in Russia if this basketball thing doesn't work out.

Chicat · Post by **Chicat** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:05 am

The Goat wrote:
Chicat wrote:He must be so tired of peeing in front of strangers.
At least he has a fall back career in Russia if this basketball thing doesn't work out.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:09 am

The Goat wrote:
Chicat wrote:He must be so tired of peeing in front of strangers.
At least he has a fall back career in Russia if this basketball thing doesn't work out.

Or just weekends in New York.

Puerco · Post by **Puerco** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:10 am

Chicat wrote:He must be so tired of peeing in front of strangers.

I read this and my first thought was, 'Oh shit, what has Ace done now?'

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