Official Bracketology Thread

KaibabKat · Post by **KaibabKat** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:58 am

Without Jordin Mayes career game against Texas we never would have played Duke that year.

gumby · Post by **gumby** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:39 am

http://arizonasports.com/story/1056334/ ... an-miller/" target="_blank

Before Williams ever had a chance to stomp on Duke’s soul, they had to get past four-seed Texas in the Round of 32. Yes, Williams led the Wildcats with 17 points, and Solomon Hill contributed 16, but that was expected. What was not anticipated was Jordin Mayes’ contributions off the bench.

The freshman who had scored in double figures just once all season — on Dec. 1 against Rice — scored 16 points against the Longhorns, making all four of this three-point attempts and 6-of-7 shots, overall. He added two assists and two steals to his stat line, and gave Arizona a valuable third scorer in a game the Wildcats won by just one point, 70-69.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:55 pm

Mayes and Kyryl were both big against Texas. That would not be consistent throughout their Arizona careers.

psiclist23 · Post by **psiclist23** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:47 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mayes and Kyryl were both big against Texas. That would not be consistent throughout their Arizona careers.

Texas fans saying "we would have had that game if a little used player hadn't had a career night against us". Where have I heard that before?

threenumberones · Post by **threenumberones** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:07 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mayes and Kyryl were both big against Texas. That would not be consistent throughout their Arizona careers.

Have to admit, I have zero recollection of KN making any impact on that game. I'd be shocked if he did. It was the Solo, Williams, Mayes show from what I remember and Derrick didn't even play that well. We had no business winning, that's for sure..

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:38 pm

threenumberones wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mayes and Kyryl were both big against Texas. That would not be consistent throughout their Arizona careers.
Have to admit, I have zero recollection of KN making any impact on that game. I'd be shocked if he did. It was the Solo, Williams, Mayes show from what I remember and Derrick didn't even play that well. We had no business winning, that's for sure..

We were having trouble defending Texas bigs with Williams and Perry, then DWill had foul trouble. Kyryl gave us really solid bench D and ate up minutes off the bench.

RiseAndFire · Post by **RiseAndFire** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:16 pm

Its alternatively fun and depressing to look back on that 2011 tourney run. Fun because the run was so exciting and thrilling

Depressing because it reminds that in the 6 following seasons with higher recruiting classes (top 5 all of them) we haven't beat anything higher than a #4 seed or beaten any team seeded higher than us.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:56 pm

Hard to beat a lot of teams seeded higher when you're a 1 or a 2 every year. Not many opportunities. Guess we should just be a 6 seed every season.

azcat49 · Post by **azcat49** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:01 pm

Rise and wipe is not a smart man Hater

zonagrad · Post by **zonagrad** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:57 pm

threenumberones wrote:
Spaceman Spiff wrote:Mayes and Kyryl were both big against Texas. That would not be consistent throughout their Arizona careers.
Have to admit, I have zero recollection of KN making any impact on that game. I'd be shocked if he did. It was the Solo, Williams, Mayes show from what I remember and Derrick didn't even play that well. We had no business winning, that's for sure..

All I remember was that we had Texas totally under control until the second half when J'Covan Brown paraded to the FT line again and again. Texas' offense consisted of him going 1 on 5, Brown penetrating and initiating contact and being rewarded with FTs. That allowed Texas to claw back in the game. And of course Mayes had a career game from the floor. Kyryl's contribution didn't show up much in the box score but he made some timely plays. And I remember Momo had a brutal game and then busted out the next round against Duke.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:27 pm

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

1 - Duke Kansas Michigan St Arizona
2 - Kentucky Wichita St Florida Villanova
3 - Cincy USC West Virgina North Carolina

4 P12 schools

97cats · Post by **97cats** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:40 pm

and theres Xavier again

SCCats · Post by **SCCats** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:44 pm

97cats wrote:and theres Xavier again

And Wisconsin too

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:27 pm

SCCats wrote:
97cats wrote:and theres Xavier again
And Wisconsin too

Xavier, Wisconsin, and if you really believe he is making fun, there's one of the other FBI schools in Louisville.

You almost couldn't put more teams in that 8 team pairing that had more recent year negative resonance with us without including a PAC 12 school.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:38 pm

No way Wisconsin is a 9 seed. That's crazy talk. They'll be in the 4 to 6 range.

YoDeFoe · Post by **YoDeFoe** » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:45 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:No way Wisconsin is a 9 seed. That's crazy talk. They'll be in the 4 to 6 range.

Bet ya a beer they're worse than a 6 seed.

Statfreak77 · Post by **Statfreak77** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:45 am

Beachcat97 wrote:No way Wisconsin is a 9 seed. That's crazy talk. They'll be in the 4 to 6 range.

Based on what?

They just lost two of their top three players from a year ago, probably plus their best defensive player.

EVCat · Post by **EVCat** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:19 am

and they don't have Bo anymore.

They are declining exactly like you expect a team built under a top level coach to do when the coach leaves and the pipeline fades, when the hire to replace was forced and uninspired.

Spaceman Spiff · Post by **Spaceman Spiff** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:29 am

Bracketology at this point is sort of like predicting the outcome of the 2018 midterm elections at this point. There's a loooong way to go.

Statfreak77 · Post by **Statfreak77** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:11 am

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Bracketology at this point is sort of like predicting the outcome of the 2018 midterm elections at this point. There's a loooong way to go.

Or predicting the NCAA College Football Playoff in August, sans Alabama.

Longhorned · Post by **Longhorned** » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:06 pm

Spaceman Spiff wrote:Bracketology at this point is sort of like predicting the outcome of the 2018 midterm elections at this point. There's a loooong way to go.

Yeah but we like to talk about basketball all the time.

dcZONAfan · Post by **dcZONAfan** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:42 am

EVCat wrote:and they don't have Bo anymore.

They are declining exactly like you expect a team built under a top level coach to do when the coach leaves and the pipeline fades, when the hire to replace was forced and uninspired.

While I truly love the idea of hating on Wisconsin, and am certainly not sold on them being a top 20 team, what you said couldn't be further from the truth IMO. If you paid any attention two year's ago that team was a dumpster fire until Gard's system was put into place and they had some time in it. Last year they were a stone's throw from the Elite 8 and their team wasn't really all that good. That dude can flat out coach. And he has recruited well (for Wisconsin), hasn't he?

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:04 pm

A&M vs. West Virginia right now on ESPN.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:06 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:A&M vs. West Virginia right now on ESPN.

A&M winning with 1 min left before half despite missing one of the best players in CBB and their starting PG. Impressive, hopefully they pull this one out.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:22 pm

They're crushing wvu 86-58 with 3 minutes left

TatetheGreat · Post by **TatetheGreat** » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:41 pm

Archie's IU debut tempered by a home blow out to Indiana State. Bummed for him. I guess ISU shot lights out from three.

Kentucky needed to rally to put away Utah Valley at home. They won by 10.

Michael Porter Jr. played two minutes before sitting with a hip injury. Mizzou 74 Iowa State 59.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:28 pm

Kentucky going down to the wire with UVM, not even sure what UVM stands for.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:29 pm

Vermont

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:36 pm

Cal up on Wichita St with a couple minutes to go in the 1st.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:21 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:Cal up on Wichita St with a couple minutes to go in the 1st.

Cal up 19 now in the 2nd. Don Coleman dropped 26 in the 1st half.

Frybry02 · Post by **Frybry02** » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:16 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:
SunnyAZ wrote:Cal up on Wichita St with a couple minutes to go in the 1st.
Cal up 19 now in the 2nd. Don Coleman dropped 26 in the 1st half.

And collapse ...

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:08 pm

ASU is good. Beat down #15 Xavier. Remain undefeated.

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:15 pm

SunnyAZ wrote:ASU is good. Beat down #15 Xavier. Remain undefeated.

They're obviously loose, confident, and out to prove something. I'm not convinced Hurley's all that as a coach, but he's put a nice roster together. On paper, we should beat them by 20. But this whole "on paper" thing hasn't worked out so well in the Miller era.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:32 pm

Alabama was down double digits and had their whole bench kicked out the game, one more player foul out, on more get injured. They had to play 3 on 5 and they brought the game back to a 3 point deficit. Lost by 5 but still pretty cool. Sexton dropped 40.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:43 am

six seed in the west

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:01 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:six seed in the west

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

We're going to end up a higher seed than that.

Jefe · Post by **Jefe** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:18 am

Back to San Diego, #5 in the West

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... acketology" target="_blank

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:24 am

I am thinking right now U of A will be the #2 in the west and something like the 6th or 7th overall seed. When all is said and done. Possibly the #3 in the West if the PAC is really down, although the win by UW vs Kansas is huge.

What will be interesting is if GCU gets into the tournament if the committee will line up GCU vs U of A or asu

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:26 am

Pac 12 is like the 6th or 7th best conference right now, which could hurt us unfortunately.

I could see us being a 3-4 seed because of that.

Probably have to win out to touch a #2 seed

PennZona20 · Post by **PennZona20** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:11 pm

I’m pretty sure 26-5 (16-2) followed by at least a finals run in the PAC tourney will earn us at least a #2 seed out West.

I’d say to compete for a 1 seed we probably have to be somewhere around 30-4 going into the NCAA tourney.

EastCoastCat · Post by **EastCoastCat** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:27 pm

Also depends on what everyone else does in front of us. Lot of ball to play still.

Be shocked if this team with this talent was not a 2 or 3 seed by the end of the year.

DiehardDave37 · Post by **DiehardDave37** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:50 pm

Washington Huskies beating Kansas in Kansas City should help the conference RPI even though it wasn't in Lawrence.

RondaeShimmy · Post by **RondaeShimmy** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:54 pm

RondaeShimmy wrote:

Beachcat97 · Post by **Beachcat97** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:00 pm

We're very much still in the running for #1 in the West. If we win out in our OOC schedule and put up 17-1 or 16-2 in the Pac, we'll be right there.

RichardCranium · Post by **RichardCranium** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:01 pm

Beachcat97 wrote:We're very much still in the running for #1 in the West. If we win out in our OOC schedule and put up 17-1 or 16-2 in the Pac, we'll be right there.

I'm not convinced yet. I don't see a 4 or 5 loss team in the top 10 this year let alone the top 5. But you never know, the season is still young.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:04 pm

I'd say a 1 seed is shot barring us finishing the season 28-0 heading to the tournament. Any more than 2-3 more losses and we may not even be a top 3 seed.

PHXCATS · Post by **PHXCATS** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:44 am

In 2017 the average 2 or 3 seed not from the PAC-12 had 7.2 losses.

A five loss PAC-12 team will get a top 3 seed. LOCK IT

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:25 pm

ASU has a 9 point lead on Kansas in the 2nd half. In Kansas btw.

SunnyAZ · Post by **SunnyAZ** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:27 pm

15 straight points for ASU. Winning by 13.

ASUHATER! · Post by **ASUHATER!** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:20 pm

ASU looking like a 1 or 2 seed

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